DK Still God Mode on the PTS

blackweb

I saw a DK repeatedly solo Uzuruz, the boss of the Temple event in the Imperial City. No healer needed. I was playing a NB, died repeatedly. If your goal was to nerf DKs in next patch, you failed miserably ZoS.

starkerealm

I saw a DK die on PTS. Do I get a prize?

blackweb

starkerealm wrote: »

I saw a DK die on PTS. Do I get a prize?

Irrelevant. So did I, on the Lich. Point is DK is still OP.

MmmmTofu

DK still good on PvE i suppose

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Or maybe he just knows how to play? Don't be jealous.

leepalmer95

blackweb wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

I saw a DK die on PTS. Do I get a prize?

Irrelevant. So did I, on the Lich. Point is DK is still OP.

But did the dk kill anyone, ofc he didn't because of people like you crying so much dk's got nerfed to the ground to were there decent at pve thats it.

Teiji

Polite please; define "op" in this instance, a second polite please; define how the Dragonknight class is "op".

Kova

He just understands and uses advantageous mechanics. Or maybe you should just bow before his divinity.

As long as I take out adds real quick, I can do the same thing with the other IC bosses. I soloed the Overfiend in the Imperial Prison the other night. I was using a pet build, but the point remains the same.

Xendyn

Should probably go tell that to these guys. Ya'll could have a lively "discussion".
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/208406/all-the-nerf-dk-qq-threads/p1

Corrupted_Soul

Hey blackweb, maybe you should focus on pvp, isn't that why you made a Nightblade?

Forestd16b14_ESO

So despite blocking changes, NB the new meta class and all oter classes changes some players still think DKs are divine beings.

/claps bashing DKs isn't appearntly part of ZoS no naming/slang rule yet say one abd thing about sorc shields or NB burst damage and every one just flips the table and go berserk.

Sithisvoid

Survivable is more the right word.

GreenSoup2HoT

Damage Mitigation is broken. Since the Armour/spell penetration is fixed, having heavy Armour is much better.

However the mitigation's now are all additive with the pvp de-buff and you can get 100% easy.

Which should not happen
(it dosent happen in live because penetration was broken, you could bypass 70% Armour just as easy. So Armour mitigation being additive wasn't a issue. Now it's the other way around.)

So no matter what pts will be TERRIBLE for any kind of testing until this is fixed.
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There is a PTS section you can post in though. Don't see a point with this thread in General Discussion.

MaxwellC

This is why we can't have nice things, I'm assuming you're one of those players who wants every class aside from their own to be nerf'd.

DKs already have horrible abilities, especially when it comes to DoT and AoE (talking about class abilities here). They've all have been pretty much nerf'd and correct me if I'm wrong dragon's blood is receiving a considerable nerf as well, in order to make DK an even harder class to come out on top with.

It would be fantastic if ZoS oh idk give us back some decent AoE *Cough* Flames of Oblivion *Cough*.

ku5h

blackweb wrote: »

I saw a DK repeatedly solo Uzuruz, the boss of the Temple event in the Imperial City. No healer needed. I was playing a NB, died repeatedly. If your goal was to nerf DKs in next patch, you failed miserably ZoS.

LOL, if I screamed nerf every time my NB couldnt kill stuff my DK could, forum would be full of me. " competely different play stiles, and you expect same resoults.
Example: Omg nerf NB, lethal arrow hit me for 22k, i want my whip to do atleast that.
So you want for your nb to be tanky and has good sustain dmg as dk, and on top of that you have best burst in game, yea thats a great idea...

hellkrasher

Wow this is one of the most idiotic threads i read. Every decent player is talking about how shity mag. dk is right now... and you come here and say DKs are OP? For god sake, at least play a bit before making threads...


The mitigation in the PTS is bugged as hell, so basically every class can make a super defensive build right now, you can achieve 80-100% mitigation lol. What did you expect?

Pliz, L2P before posting. Thnks.

Rinmaethodain

This is what happens when @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_EricWrobel will start to openly favourite only one of player classes NB DPSes branding them favourites or ZOS and then openly discriminate other group of players who threaten their most favourites.

A thread appears that just slightly points a NB DPS is op -> we have all DPS ganking on everyone in this thread that they are wrong, they never DPS and everything compared to being DPS is like riding bike, while DPSing is rocket science and flying space shuttle.

ZOS decides to make unjustified nerft to any other class -> ZOS gives us empty and pointless arguments like "this is good for long term health of game", "we are happy with this change"; DPS from all over place gank other classes who struggle to be allowed to still make light attack; suddenly every NB DPS is expert on how to tank/heal and every other class but NB DPS has to L2P and adapt

blackweb

MmmmTofu wrote: »

DK still good on PvE i suppose

I understated DK power on PTS in my OP.

NOT ONLY DID A 2H/1H AND SHIELD DK SOLO UZURUZ, THE MAIN BOSS OF THE TEMPLE IN THE IMPERIAL CITY ON PTS, HE SOLOED THE ENTIRE EVENT, INITIAL BOSS, ADDS, FINAL BOSS EVERYTHING.

Nice game balance ZoS. You can all respec your Templar healers to dps. Healers will no longer be needed.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

Who cares about that someone can solo a pve encounter? This is going to happen more often anyway with people getting more and more CP. And it's not like pve is exceptionally difficult in this game either.

blackweb

hellkrasher wrote: »

Wow this is one of the most idiotic threads i read. Every decent player is talking about how shity mag. dk is right now... and you come here and say DKs are OP? For god sake, at least play a bit before making threads...


The mitigation in the PTS is bugged as hell, so basically every class can make a super defensive build right now, you can achieve 80-100% mitigation lol. What did you expect?

Pliz, L2P before posting. Thnks.

You are clueless. Not only was the DK mitigating most damage, he was healing himself during the temple event in the imperial city. His health would drop down to about 1/4 or 1/3 and he would just heal himself back up.

blackweb

MaximusDargus wrote: »

This is what happens when @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_EricWrobel will start to openly favourite only one of player classes NB DPSes branding them favourites or ZOS and then openly discriminate other group of players who threaten their most favourites.

A thread appears that just slightly points a NB DPS is op -> we have all DPS ganking on everyone in this thread that they are wrong, they never DPS and everything compared to being DPS is like riding bike, while DPSing is rocket science and flying space shuttle.

ZOS decides to make unjustified nerft to any other class -> ZOS gives us empty and pointless arguments like "this is good for long term health of game", "we are happy with this change"; DPS from all over place gank other classes who struggle to be allowed to still make light attack; suddenly every NB DPS is expert on how to tank/heal and every other class but NB DPS has to L2P and adapt

Nightblade DPS is definitely NOT OP on PTS. Even a VR16 in full legendary with 300 champion points, a NB dps is adequate but definitely not OP.

BTW, rumors of Kahjiit NB superiority are vastly overstated. I repeatedly owned a Kahjiit NB 1v1 on my Redgaurd NB. Maybe I am just a better NB than he was but I owned him.

blackweb

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

This is why we can't have nice things, I'm assuming you're one of those players who wants every class aside from their own to be nerf'd.

DKs already have horrible abilities, especially when it comes to DoT and AoE (talking about class abilities here). They've all have been pretty much nerf'd and correct me if I'm wrong dragon's blood is receiving a considerable nerf as well, in order to make DK an even harder class to come out on top with.

It would be fantastic if ZoS oh idk give us back some decent AoE *Cough* Flames of Oblivion *Cough*.

My main WAS a Templar, now its a NB. My Templar just sucks as a tank now. I can heal, thats about it.

Rook_Master

I also saw a DK that was basically God-Mode.

There's something fishy with the way CP is interacting with Battle-Fatigue and DK skills.

riverdragon72

I watched a templar solo his way around IC quite easily last night, while me as a DK was having serious difficulty.

Robbmrp

blackweb wrote: »

I saw a DK repeatedly solo Uzuruz, the boss of the Temple event in the Imperial City. No healer needed. I was playing a NB, died repeatedly. If your goal was to nerf DKs in next patch, you failed miserably ZoS.

They were probably playing a Template DK with high CP points.

blackweb

riverdragon72 wrote: »

I watched a templar solo his way around IC quite easily last night, while me as a DK was having serious difficulty.

I made a templar on PTS but didnt play it much so I would not know about playing a Templar in the IC. I am so disgusted with my current templar that I dont want to play it anymore.

blackweb

Robbmrp wrote: »

blackweb wrote: »

I saw a DK repeatedly solo Uzuruz, the boss of the Temple event in the Imperial City. No healer needed. I was playing a NB, died repeatedly. If your goal was to nerf DKs in next patch, you failed miserably ZoS.

They were probably playing a Template DK with high CP points.

300 CP on V16 template, not that high.

blackweb

Rook_Master wrote: »

I also saw a DK that was basically God-Mode.

There's something fishy with the way CP is interacting with Battle-Fatigue and DK skills.

Yup, DK is God mode on PTS. Soloed the entire temple event. Didnt need any help. I did try to help as a stam based bow/dual wield NB but all I did was die quickly and horribly. I must have wasted 15 soulstones. I finally gave up and hid outside until it was over.

MaxwellC

@blackweb DKs don't need another nerf, we've already had so many skills nerf'd thanks to complainers like you. We've had unstable flames, dragon scales, lava whip, flames of oblivion, standard of might, in hale and ash cloud nerf'd so far; on top of all that we're now getting molten weapons, igenous shield and dragon's blood nerf'd as well.

I don't see NBs getting a nerf to their spam-able fear and cloak ability. I mean come on you can spam that constantly, they work together in harmony. You can fear then attack and on top of that cloak while you are 2 inches near the enemy player?? Oh yes this skill isn't completely broken. Don't get me started about that insta close gap, stun, and recover HP ability you have.

Dks aren't OP it's the champion points that we have to painstakingly grind thanks to people who keep stating that DKs are OP and need nerfs. I haven't grinded my CPs and I've just hit VR 14 but to combat another VR 14 who's a different class, it takes whits not my class to beat them.

You need to make a DK and experience the true horrors from the pathetic DoTs to the weak damaging abilities and oh don't get me started about the pathetic AoEs we have.
This class was suppose to be about survivability yet look what's happened to our skills that help us survive, they get nerf'd and we're suppose to adapt because ZoS can't afford to let their prime gem i.e. NB to be out shined.

Thalmor-Nordmaster

DK IS BROKE. The proof is there for all to see!!!!
All that fire and cant cook a single thing with it! I mean [snip] Over!!!Plenty of DK's die in the Sewers.I think Blabbafat has a video of such on the pts thread he saved the dk until the last so he could savor the flavor of roasted DK.

[edited for profanity bypass]

TequilaFire

Sometimes I get the feeling they could remove DKs completely from the game and these guys would still come up with nerf DK threads.