DK Still God Mode on the PTS

MaxwellC

@blackweb DKs don't need another nerf, we've already had so many skills nerf'd thanks to complainers like you. We've had unstable flames, dragon scales, lava whip, flames of oblivion, standard of might, in hale and ash cloud nerf'd so far; on top of all that we're now getting molten weapons, igenous shield and dragon's blood nerf'd as well.

I don't see NBs getting a nerf to their spam-able fear and cloak ability. I mean come on you can spam that constantly, they work together in harmony. You can fear then attack and on top of that cloak while you are 2 inches near the enemy player?? Oh yes this skill isn't completely broken. Don't get me started about that insta close gap, stun, and recover HP ability you have.

Dks aren't OP it's the champion points that we have to painstakingly grind thanks to people who keep stating that DKs are OP and need nerfs. I haven't grinded my CPs and I've just hit VR 14 but to combat another VR 14 who's a different class, it takes whits not my class to beat them.

You need to make a DK and experience the true horrors from the pathetic DoTs to the weak damaging abilities and oh don't get me started about the pathetic AoEs we have.
This class was suppose to be about survivability yet look what's happened to our skills that help us survive, they get nerf'd and we're suppose to adapt because ZoS can't afford to let their prime gem i.e. NB to be out shined.

Thalmor-Nordmaster

DK IS BROKE. The proof is there for all to see!!!!
All that fire and cant cook a single thing with it! I mean WTF Over!!!Plenty of DK's die in the Sewers.I think Blabbafat has a video of such on the pts thread he saved the dk until the last so he could savor the flavor of roasted DK.

TequilaFire

Sometimes I get the feeling they could remove DKs completely from the game and these guys would still come up with nerf DK threads.

markt84

All classes can achieve god mode with enough champion points....well besides NBs, they just hide in the shadows and hope their first burst kills something

blackweb

markt84 wrote: »

All classes can achieve god mode with enough champion points....well besides NBs, they just hide in the shadows and hope their first burst kills something

You need to read before you post. VR16 Template on pts has 300 CPs. No, it was not CPS.

TequilaFire

How do you know what template he used?

MaxwellC

blackweb wrote: »

markt84 wrote: »

All classes can achieve god mode with enough champion points....well besides NBs, they just hide in the shadows and hope their first burst kills something

You need to read before you post. VR16 Template on pts has 300 CPs. No, it was not CPS.

And you need to stop making false claims that DKs are OP, we've been from nerf hell and back, yet we're still trying to survive just barely

Junkogen

Sounds like a champion point issue, not a class issue.

blackweb

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

And you need to stop making false claims that DKs are OP, we've been from nerf hell and back, yet we're still trying to survive just barely

False claims? I saw it dude. I saw it repeatedly. No class should be able to solo that event, period, end of story.

Rinmaethodain

blackweb wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

And you need to stop making false claims that DKs are OP, we've been from nerf hell and back, yet we're still trying to survive just barely

False claims? I saw it dude. I saw it repeatedly. No class should be able to solo that event, period, end of story.

lol

blackweb

Junkogen wrote: »

Sounds like a champion point issue, not a class issue.

Only 300 CPs on V16 template.

MaxwellC

blackweb wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

And you need to stop making false claims that DKs are OP, we've been from nerf hell and back, yet we're still trying to survive just barely

False claims? I saw it dude. I saw it repeatedly. No class should be able to solo that event, period, end of story.

Oh My God! He saw one person solo an entire dungeon! ONE! It's phenomenal, this calls for DKs to be nerf'd into oblivion again since we didn't finish nerfing the entire ardent flame, earthen heart, and dragonic power skill line yet. I may add we're almost close with both ardent flame and dragonic power, we just need a few more skills in both to be nerf'd before we've made the class "FAIR".
Lol man blackweb you crack me up.

blackweb

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

blackweb wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

And you need to stop making false claims that DKs are OP, we've been from nerf hell and back, yet we're still trying to survive just barely

False claims? I saw it dude. I saw it repeatedly. No class should be able to solo that event, period, end of story.

Oh My God! He saw one person solo an entire dungeon! ONE! It's phenomenal, this calls for DKs to be nerf'd into oblivion again since we didn't finish nerfing the entire ardent flame. earthen heart, and dragonic power skill line yet. I may add we're almost close with both ardent flame and dragonic power, we just need a few more skills in both to be nerf'd before we've made the class "FAIR".
Lol man blackweb you crack me up.

Seriously, just stop posting. The Temple event is not a dungeon unless the IC is a dungeon. Its an IC zone event. The bosses and mobs drop some good loot. No one should be able to solo farm that event.

TequilaFire

So you leave a lot of details out conveniently, like what skill rotation was he using, weapons etc.
I bet a lot of his power came from weapons skill lines as well as DK.
In other words the person knows how to play.

MaxwellC

You keep posting this non-sense and I will continue to shut you down. Like people have stated above this is a CP issue, how can a class that has been nerf'd so far in terms of DPS and survivability and soon to be tanking even solo without the help of major CPs.
We're going off what you supposedly saw go down. I'll keep on posting till they lock this thread because I don't want people like you who see one person prevailing against a extremely nerf'd class given a voice in the community.

Cuyler

There are some really good players out there that pride themselves on soloing content. These are not your average player. Nerf the class any more than it already has and the casual player wont even bother looking at DK as an option. Balancing the class around the 0.01% of DKs with the ability to do this is just fanatical. relax dude.

KaleidoscopeEyz

Complaining something is OP is so last week. Get with it already.

blackweb

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

You keep posting this non-sense and I will continue to shut you down. Like people have stated above this is a CP issue, how can a class that has been nerf'd so far in terms of DPS and survivability and soon to be tanking even solo without the help of major CPs.
We're going off what you supposedly saw go down. I'll keep on posting till they lock this thread because I don't want people like you who see one person prevailing against a extremely nerf'd class given a voice in the community.

You clearly have not been on the PTS or you would not keep posting nonsense about CPs. I told you repeatedly that the V16 Template has 300 CPs on it. The DK had 300 CPS, a below average amount for a V16 character. One more time:

IT WASNT CPS!

Got it? I hope so.

blackweb

Cuyler wrote: »

There are some really good players out there that pride themselves on soloing content. These are not your average player. Nerf the class any more than it already has and the casual player wont even bother looking at DK as an option. Balancing the class around the 0.01% of DKs with the ability to do this is just fanatical. relax dude.

Yes, he was a very good player, I grouped with him. That is not the issue. Do you understand how valuable boss loot is in the IC? No one player should be able to solo farm that event.

MaxwellC

@blackweb No I don't "got it" it's a CP issue not a class issue, it doesn't matter what you say because this class has already been nerf'd so hard it's almost becoming unplayable.
Addition: Like above stated you even don't list the armor, weapons or accessories used but it's a class issue. Yeah ok, since DK is so "OP" lol..

Rinmaethodain

blackweb wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

There are some really good players out there that pride themselves on soloing content. These are not your average player. Nerf the class any more than it already has and the casual player wont even bother looking at DK as an option. Balancing the class around the 0.01% of DKs with the ability to do this is just fanatical. relax dude.

Yes, he was a very good player, I grouped with him. That is not the issue. Do you understand how valuable boss loot is in the IC? No one player should be able to solo farm that event.

You sound like broken record "no one player should be able to solo farm that event"..."no one player should be able to solo farm that event"...

Did you think maybe, in between repeating that line, that maybe its not fault of overnerfed DK but the event is just too easy?

TequilaFire

Learn when to pick your battles friend.
When it is live more players will be around so it will be harder for one person to horde all the loot.
You should of helped him even with a couple of hits you could of shared.

blackweb

MaximusDargus wrote: »

blackweb wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

There are some really good players out there that pride themselves on soloing content. These are not your average player. Nerf the class any more than it already has and the casual player wont even bother looking at DK as an option. Balancing the class around the 0.01% of DKs with the ability to do this is just fanatical. relax dude.

Yes, he was a very good player, I grouped with him. That is not the issue. Do you understand how valuable boss loot is in the IC? No one player should be able to solo farm that event.

You sound like broken record "no one player should be able to solo farm that event"..."no one player should be able to solo farm that event"...

Did you think maybe, in between repeating that line, that maybe its not fault of overnerfed DK but the event is just too easy?

[email protected] DK

Not hardly overnerfed, no way. To be fair, the same DK got owned by the lich in the IC but the lich moves about and summons hordes of nasty zombie adds. He was also popping some very strong potions, I had the same potions. I died a lot, he did not.

Cuyler

Could it also be plausible that this DK was bug testing/reporting this? The correct way....in game....instead of jerking at the knee and running to the forums yelling things like nerf everything and god mode

MaxwellC

@MaximusDargus Nah he clearly lacks an cognitive function that's primarily why his reasoning is that it's a class issue and nothing else.

blackweb

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@blackweb No I don't "got it" it's a CP issue not a class issue, it doesn't matter what you say because this class has already been nerf'd so hard it's almost becoming unplayable.
Addition: Like above stated you even don't list the armor, weapons or accessories used but it's a class issue. Yeah ok, since DK is so "OP" lol..

Oh stop it. The DK is anything but unplayable on the PTS. The DK does very well in the IC on PTS. Quit your whining about the DK being overnerfed. Newsflash, all classes got nerfed, especially on damage.

Rinmaethodain

And last line of blackweb's post concludes this joke of topic:

blackweb wrote: »

MaximusDargus wrote: »

blackweb wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

There are some really good players out there that pride themselves on soloing content. These are not your average player. Nerf the class any more than it already has and the casual player wont even bother looking at DK as an option. Balancing the class around the 0.01% of DKs with the ability to do this is just fanatical. relax dude.

Yes, he was a very good player, I grouped with him. That is not the issue. Do you understand how valuable boss loot is in the IC? No one player should be able to solo farm that event.

You sound like broken record "no one player should be able to solo farm that event"..."no one player should be able to solo farm that event"...

Did you think maybe, in between repeating that line, that maybe its not fault of overnerfed DK but the event is just too easy?

[email protected] DK

Not hardly overnerfed, no way. To be fair, the same DK got owned by the lich in the IC but the lich moves about and summons hordes of nasty zombie adds. He was also popping some very strong potions, I had the same potions. I died a lot, he did not.

I died a lot, he did not, therfore he must be OP, he must be nerfed.

<slow clap> Thanks blackweb, you are free to continue with your delusional rant. I heard all i needed.

markt84

How about you wait around to see him farm it again, and record it for us. Stop crying about it, and give us some actual video to make up our own minds. Don't just get on here say, I saw this, I saw this, nerf nerf nerf. Give us something to go on, so if it is true, we can see how he did it and figure out if it was OP, skill, or hack(even tho I'm not sure that happens in pts, it happens in live, so I'm just assuming it can happen in pts)

MaxwellC

blackweb wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@blackweb No I don't "got it" it's a CP issue not a class issue, it doesn't matter what you say because this class has already been nerf'd so hard it's almost becoming unplayable.
Addition: Like above stated you even don't list the armor, weapons or accessories used but it's a class issue. Yeah ok, since DK is so "OP" lol..

Oh stop it. The DK is anything but unplayable on the PTS. The DK does very well in the IC on PTS. Quit your whining about the DK being overnerfed. Newsflash, all classes got nerfed, especially on damage.

@blackweb Please tell me how DK isn't over nerf'd when not even joking literally almost all skills from Ardent flames, earthen heart, and dragonic power has been nerf'd. Please oh kindly explain to me how this isn't an over nerf??

MaxwellC

@markt84 Bugs happen on PTS all the time hence it's a test server which is akin to an public beta