Templar DPS 1 Button Rotation

rokrdt05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev3hWIEo5Jo&feature=youtu.be

Templar DPS on Bloodspawn with 1 Button!

Many folks asked for me to post a parse... enjoy!

(Thank you @Moezilla for recording this session for me!)

The_Sadist

Looks like multiple spells, and therefore buttons, were used to me .

rokrdt05

The_Sadist wrote: »

Looks like multiple spells, and therefore buttons, were used to me .

Mostly a joke considering I mainly use 1 button for majority of fight. XD

AgentRay

Never go full derp

rokrdt05

Also, @Alcast I am still working on getting you that full Manti parse

nordsavage

Just because you chose to use one button doesn't mean you have to or should. That's a lack of finesse on your part. Don't even need to watch a video.

rokrdt05

nordsavage wrote: »

Just because you chose to use one button doesn't mean you have to or should. That's a lack of finesse on your part. Don't even need to watch a video.

It's a really great vid!

I even manage to pull 23k... so silly.

Moezilla

nordsavage wrote: »

Just because you chose to use one button doesn't mean you have to or should. That's a lack of finesse on your part. Don't even need to watch a video.

mousekime111rwb17_ESO

It kind of bothers me that stats other than spell damage/weapon damage and magicka/stamina so massively outweigh other damage stats. It's like there's no other options to increase your dps at all.

Cinbri

Delete video pls. I don't wanna Templar to recieve nerf hammer again in 1.7.

mousekime111rwb17_ESO

Cinbri wrote: »

Delete video pls. I don't wanna Templar to recieve nerf hammer again in 1.7.

Won't happen, it's spell damage and magicka that are going to be tweaked if anything.

FYI you can do the exact same thing by stacking exclusively weapon damage and stamina spamming rapid strikes, it's really lame.

Attorneyatlawl

mousekime111rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Delete video pls. I don't wanna Templar to recieve nerf hammer again in 1.7.

Won't happen, it's spell damage and magicka that are going to be tweaked if anything.

FYI you can do the exact same thing by stacking exclusively weapon damage and stamina spamming rapid strikes, it's really lame.

Actually, you can't... you can only do it much better, because of how high you can stack weapon power and stamina + champ passives compared to spell-based builds in general.

Check out @Jules ' thread here... it's very insightful: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/170780/spell-damage-vs-weapon-damage-imbalances-updated

I submitted feedback along the same lines before 1.6 went live, too.

Alcast

If you only do stack Weap dmg+stamina or Spelldmg+magicka then you are doing smth wrong, just sayin

well, actually stacking spelldmg for Mages is still more or less the best way, but it aint so for Stamina

highest spelldmg i have seen = 3,7k
highest weapon dmg i have seen = 5,1k or smth like that

but then again, usually I am sitting around 3,8k weapon dmg

cazlonb16_ESO

mousekime111rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Delete video pls. I don't wanna Templar to recieve nerf hammer again in 1.7.

Won't happen, it's spell damage and magicka that are going to be tweaked if anything.

You're new to MMOs, aren't you...

rokrdt05

Alcast wrote: »

If you only do stack Weap dmg+stamina or Spelldmg+magicka then you are doing smth wrong, just sayin

well, actually stacking spelldmg for Mages is still more or less the best way, but it aint so for Stamina

highest spelldmg i have seen = 3,7k
highest weapon dmg i have seen = 5,1k or smth like that

but then again, usually I am sitting around 3,8k weapon dmg

As stacked as I am on spell dmg, I am not lacking resources at all. My off bar is for ulti gen/magicka regen but don't need it for a fight this short. I can do SO HM with this set up and have no magicka issues.

Sadly, for a Templar this is the best set up I could come with as a dps spec and pull good numbers. It is kind of cheesy, but works well.

Alcast

rokrdt05 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If you only do stack Weap dmg+stamina or Spelldmg+magicka then you are doing smth wrong, just sayin

well, actually stacking spelldmg for Mages is still more or less the best way, but it aint so for Stamina

highest spelldmg i have seen = 3,7k
highest weapon dmg i have seen = 5,1k or smth like that

but then again, usually I am sitting around 3,8k weapon dmg

As stacked as I am on spell dmg, I am not lacking resources at all. My off bar is for ulti gen/magicka regen but don't need it for a fight this short. I can do SO HM with this set up and have no magicka issues.

Sadly, for a Templar this is the best set up I could come with as a dps spec and pull good numbers. It is kind of cheesy, but works well.

Switch to Nirn+apprentice in trials and you will get 2-4k dps increase

rokrdt05

Alcast wrote: »

rokrdt05 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If you only do stack Weap dmg+stamina or Spelldmg+magicka then you are doing smth wrong, just sayin

well, actually stacking spelldmg for Mages is still more or less the best way, but it aint so for Stamina

highest spelldmg i have seen = 3,7k
highest weapon dmg i have seen = 5,1k or smth like that

but then again, usually I am sitting around 3,8k weapon dmg

As stacked as I am on spell dmg, I am not lacking resources at all. My off bar is for ulti gen/magicka regen but don't need it for a fight this short. I can do SO HM with this set up and have no magicka issues.

Sadly, for a Templar this is the best set up I could come with as a dps spec and pull good numbers. It is kind of cheesy, but works well.

Switch to Nirn+apprentice in trials and you will get 2-4k dps increase

Actually, already using Nirn. However I've found I kept higher dps with a larger magicka pool vs more spell pen. The CP I have helps as well in this regard.

Max Magicka = Larger Tool Tips

Spell Pen is subjective to the boss you are fighting.

PBpsy

I really enjoyed that part where you used puncturing sweep.

rokrdt05

PBpsy wrote: »

I really enjoyed that part where you used puncturing sweep.

It's the best part!

Personofsecrets

I propose that if you cast an ability twice in a row that you lose all of your magic. Things are a bit boring and uninteractive now and I think my proposed change would spice the game up.

Attorneyatlawl

rokrdt05 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

rokrdt05 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If you only do stack Weap dmg+stamina or Spelldmg+magicka then you are doing smth wrong, just sayin

well, actually stacking spelldmg for Mages is still more or less the best way, but it aint so for Stamina

highest spelldmg i have seen = 3,7k
highest weapon dmg i have seen = 5,1k or smth like that

but then again, usually I am sitting around 3,8k weapon dmg

As stacked as I am on spell dmg, I am not lacking resources at all. My off bar is for ulti gen/magicka regen but don't need it for a fight this short. I can do SO HM with this set up and have no magicka issues.

Sadly, for a Templar this is the best set up I could come with as a dps spec and pull good numbers. It is kind of cheesy, but works well.

Switch to Nirn+apprentice in trials and you will get 2-4k dps increase

Actually, already using Nirn. However I've found I kept higher dps with a larger magicka pool vs more spell pen. The CP I have helps as well in this regard.

Max Magicka = Larger Tool Tips

Spell Pen is subjective to the boss you are fighting.

Yep... I found the same was true of the PTS version (360 CP which is around where I'll be on live as he reaches VR14) of my 50k magicka + 2320 spellpower build for the nightblade recently when using sharpened/nirn weaps. Dropping the Mage mundus to go for Apprentice resulted in less damage on the majority of things I tested against with that build. He's going live in the next few days now . I actually eventually think with enough CP I will gain more out of precise on him in both pve and pvp vs nirn, particularly factoring in the 60% crit amp on NB's and how high you can push the spellcrit versus other classes due to the assassination passive *shrug* but I'll have to test that later on. The amount of magicka in the build equals out to an extremely high amount of spellpower when mathed and provides high sustainability for the obvious reasons.

reclaimervii.sierra117ub17_ESO

I le thought you said DF was OP? Amrite?

reclaimervii.sierra117ub17_ESO

I love le funny maymay song of derp XD SO PHANNY JOKE

mousekime111rwb17_ESO

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

mousekime111rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Delete video pls. I don't wanna Templar to recieve nerf hammer again in 1.7.

Won't happen, it's spell damage and magicka that are going to be tweaked if anything.

FYI you can do the exact same thing by stacking exclusively weapon damage and stamina spamming rapid strikes, it's really lame.

Actually, you can't... you can only do it much better, because of how high you can stack weapon power and stamina + champ passives compared to spell-based builds in general.

Check out @Jules ' thread here... it's very insightful: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/170780/spell-damage-vs-weapon-damage-imbalances-updated

I submitted feedback along the same lines before 1.6 went live, too.

oh yeah, i keep forgetting that max attainable wd is like 30%> spell damage...
Still it's really lame that the disparity between the different damage modifiers (resource, damage, crit chance and crit damage) is so massive. This game has so much potential for variety amongst the player base yet the devs actively allow for there to be such an OBVIOUSLY OPTIMAL stat which really really really limits choices.

rokrdt05

reclaimervii.sierra117ub17_ESO wrote: »

I le thought you said DF was OP? Amrite?

Dark Flare is still a really good ability for single target. However, someone asked me to try Puncturing over DF and I liked the results. Particularly with sustainability and the Burning Light Procs you get. Also if you use camo hunter, it also has 4x chance to proc of puncturing and essentially equates out to free Burning Light Proc.

Honestly, Dark Flare (at least for me) is good if I want to keep my distance or if I'm healing... at least at this point in the game for me.

rokrdt05

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

rokrdt05 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

rokrdt05 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If you only do stack Weap dmg+stamina or Spelldmg+magicka then you are doing smth wrong, just sayin

well, actually stacking spelldmg for Mages is still more or less the best way, but it aint so for Stamina

highest spelldmg i have seen = 3,7k
highest weapon dmg i have seen = 5,1k or smth like that

but then again, usually I am sitting around 3,8k weapon dmg

As stacked as I am on spell dmg, I am not lacking resources at all. My off bar is for ulti gen/magicka regen but don't need it for a fight this short. I can do SO HM with this set up and have no magicka issues.

Sadly, for a Templar this is the best set up I could come with as a dps spec and pull good numbers. It is kind of cheesy, but works well.

Switch to Nirn+apprentice in trials and you will get 2-4k dps increase

Actually, already using Nirn. However I've found I kept higher dps with a larger magicka pool vs more spell pen. The CP I have helps as well in this regard.

Max Magicka = Larger Tool Tips

Spell Pen is subjective to the boss you are fighting.

Yep... I found the same was true of the PTS version (360 CP which is around where I'll be on live as he reaches VR14) of my 50k magicka + 2320 spellpower build for the nightblade recently when using sharpened/nirn weaps. Dropping the Mage mundus to go for Apprentice resulted in less damage on the majority of things I tested against with that build. He's going live in the next few days now . I actually eventually think with enough CP I will gain more out of precise on him in both pve and pvp vs nirn, particularly factoring in the 60% crit amp on NB's and how high you can push the spellcrit versus other classes due to the assassination passive *shrug* but I'll have to test that later on. The amount of magicka in the build equals out to an extremely high amount of spellpower when mathed and provides high sustainability for the obvious reasons.

Once I have enough CP to max out Spell Erosion, I'm eager to see if Precise would not be better over Nirn in terms of crit dmg, especially with high enough points into Elfborn. However... no where close to the CP needed, so stuck with Nirn for now... unless the incoming nerf makes it null and void.

lolo_01b16_ESO

You should mention that you exploited camouflaged hunter even though it was not on your bar, just in case someone wants to copy your build.

rokrdt05

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

You should mention that you exploited camouflaged hunter even though it was not on your bar, just in case someone wants to copy your build.

Actually camo hunter was on my off bar. It works like any other buff, so it does not have to be on your main bar for it to be active. I also got the extended duration for it on the first mini boss Mad Mortine. Learn the abilities before yelling "exploit."

Teiji

rokrdt05 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

You should mention that you exploited camouflaged hunter even though it was not on your bar, just in case someone wants to copy your build.

Actually camo hunter was on my off bar. It works like any other buff, so it does not have to be on your main bar for it to be active. I also got the extended duration for it on the first mini boss Mad Mortine. Learn the abilities before yelling "exploit."

Evil Hunter duration = 15 seconds, 15 + 15 = 30 seconds. Every Undead & Daedra refreshing the duration not extending it.

It's supposed to work like that, refreshing the duration not extending it, it never has since it was first implemented into the game.

As it stands now you can do Evil Hunter + Expert Hunter duration = 15 + 15x10 or even 15xX [x equal number of undead / daedra slain].

Bromburak

Whats new? Its a narrow minded choice as usual.

Alcast

Teiji wrote: »

rokrdt05 wrote: »

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

You should mention that you exploited camouflaged hunter even though it was not on your bar, just in case someone wants to copy your build.

Actually camo hunter was on my off bar. It works like any other buff, so it does not have to be on your main bar for it to be active. I also got the extended duration for it on the first mini boss Mad Mortine. Learn the abilities before yelling "exploit."

Evil Hunter duration = 15 seconds, 15 + 15 = 30 seconds. Every Undead & Daedra refreshing the duration not extending it.

It's supposed to work like that, refreshing the duration not extending it, it never has since it was first implemented into the game.

As it stands now you can do Evil Hunter + Expert Hunter duration = 15 + 15x10 or even 15xX [x equal number of undead / daedra slain].

ZOS stated it is working as intended, prolly tooltip wrong