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New players not standing a chance on console against transfers!!

pmitchell126b16_ESO
Hello as a new person coming to ESO for PS4 will there be servers for only fresh starters and not people getting transfered in with there veteran rank 10 characters from pc?

Or will we new players have to be bullied by these transfer characters and them screw up the market.

thanks.


****So after reviewing all the posts what it seems is obvious.***



- PC Vet Players with VR Ranks and Champion points (So New console players don't meet these players as they will ruin your game experience ignore them simple and do not join the regular campaigns as they will gank and grief you and you cannot do a single thing except wave a stick at them)
- Already players with 5million gold seek to exploit the market and make it so new starters will have to struggle for every coin they get.
- Expect to play for 2-3 months to get any chance of competing with these players.

So all in a basket we all on for a ride.


Shame I did not read sooner about this otherwise would of told my cousin not to purchase this game hoping it be a fresh start.

ZeniMax should of only let transfers in about 1-2 months after release not on day 1 launch what a way to ruin a experience for console players.
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Edited by pmitchell126b16_ESO on June 7, 2015 10:19PM
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    It is a megaserver so no everyone plays on same server. 1 for each console and 1 for PC/MAC also 1 each for NA/EU.
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  • Heromofo
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    Nah lol i want to chomp on some new players. :D
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    Hm talk about new release for console when got *** heads already with there high ranks.
  • NukeAllTheThings
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    Hello as a new person coming to ESO for PS4 will there be servers for only fresh starters and not people getting transfered in with there veteran rank 10 characters from pc?

    thanks

    Doesn't look like there will be any separation. In PVE it won't be a a big deal.....in PVP...well....the transfers will have a MASSIVE advantage that new players will never be able to catch up to
    "it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor
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    Hm talk about new release for console when got *** heads already with there high ranks.

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  • pmitchell126b16_ESO
    Time to get a refund then and spread word around
  • Olysja
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    unluckly true. transfer + buffed chars (and you know what i mean;d ) no sense talking about a new ESO game.
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    Hello as a new person coming to ESO for PS4 will there be servers for only fresh starters and not people getting transfered in with there veteran rank 10 characters from pc?

    thanks
    Doesn't look like there will be any separation. In PVE it won't be a a big deal.....in PVP...well....the transfers will have a MASSIVE advantage that new players will never be able to catch up to


    So they wont have separate campaigns like they already do for PC. Non-vets PvP, and everyone PvP?
    Edited by Thymos on June 7, 2015 5:13PM
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  • Heromofo
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    Thymos wrote: »
    Hello as a new person coming to ESO for PS4 will there be servers for only fresh starters and not people getting transfered in with there veteran rank 10 characters from pc?

    thanks

    Doesn't look like there will be any separation. In PVE it won't be a a big deal.....in PVP...well....the transfers will have a MASSIVE advantage that new players will never be able to catch up to
    Hello as a new person coming to ESO for PS4 will there be servers for only fresh starters and not people getting transfered in with there veteran rank 10 characters from pc?

    thanks

    Doesn't look like there will be any separation. In PVE it won't be a a big deal.....in PVP...well....the transfers will have a MASSIVE advantage that new players will never be able to catch up to
    Hello as a new person coming to ESO for PS4 will there be servers for only fresh starters and not people getting transfered in with there veteran rank 10 characters from pc?

    thanks

    Doesn't look like there will be any separation. In PVE it won't be a a big deal.....in PVP...well....the transfers will have a MASSIVE advantage that new players will never be able to catch up to

    So they wont have separate campaigns like they already do for PC. Non-vets PvP, and everyone PvP?

    They will but he is pointing out that someone with 300 champion points vs someone with 0 is going to have some fun.
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    Thymos wrote: »
    So they wont have separate campaigns like they already do for PC. Non-vets PvP, and everyone PvP?
    you know that different players are running with a yellow nirn equip on non-veteran?: ) vr rank is nothing. power to gear up all your chars is the problem.
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    Thymos wrote: »

    So they wont have separate campaigns like they already do for PC. Non-vets PvP, and everyone PvP?

    Oh there will be the non vet Blackwater Blade. However, a lot of those vets will have low level alts with 300 CP there to stomp you.
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  • Thymos
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    Then maybe they should make a non-champion campaign. Ensure that it is only people that have yet to reach level 50 on any character. :P
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  • NukeAllTheThings
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    Xendyn wrote: »
    Thymos wrote: »

    So they wont have separate campaigns like they already do for PC. Non-vets PvP, and everyone PvP?

    Oh there will be the non vet Blackwater Blade. However, a lot of those vets will have low level alts with 300 CP there to stomp you.

    this.
    "it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor
  • Grimnaur
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    This is one thing I don't agree with ZOS on. It is a megaserver, so it will not ever change, but I think FFXIV made a great move with there release of ARR(2.0). They had veteran servers for people from 1.0 to keep their characters, then new servers for new people or veterans to start over on. This will turn several new console players away.
    Edited by Grimnaur on June 7, 2015 5:19PM
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  • pmitchell126b16_ESO
    Sounds like a poorly made choice by ZeniMax only in it for money only to end up losing players on a game being released on console for first time for them as they allowed people to transfer there geared and all characters.

    They should of just allowed a account transfer with no characters only name reservations and free copy of ESO for XB1 and PS4. like some other mmos did.

    Talk about ruining a game launch for another platform that been delayed for a year only for them to screw it up just to squeeze extra money.
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    Sounds like a poorly made choice by ZeniMax only in it for money only to end up losing players on a game being released on console for first time for them as they allowed people to transfer there geared and all characters.

    They should of just allowed a account transfer with no characters only name reservations and free copy of ESO for XB1 and PS4. like some other mmos did.

    Talk about ruining a game launch for another platform that been delayed for a year only for them to screw it up just to squeeze extra money.

    Kept telling this to people all the way through.
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    This is the start of many of these threads.
    Having higher ranked players in the game will be no different than if you bought the console version a month from now.
    There will always be someone higher ranked than you, doesn't mean they are a better player.
    Edited by TequilaFire on June 7, 2015 5:21PM
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    Sounds like a poorly made choice by ZeniMax only in it for money only to end up losing players on a game being released on console for first time for them as they allowed people to transfer there geared and all characters.

    They should of just allowed a account transfer with no characters only name reservations and free copy of ESO for XB1 and PS4. like some other mmos did.

    Talk about ruining a game launch for another platform that been delayed for a year only for them to screw it up just to squeeze extra money.

    What about us that bought the pc version because our console version was delayed should we now lose all our stuff just because we joined the pc side while waiting for the console side ?.
    Edited by Heromofo on June 7, 2015 5:29PM
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    Heromofo wrote: »
    Sounds like a poorly made choice by ZeniMax only in it for money only to end up losing players on a game being released on console for first time for them as they allowed people to transfer there geared and all characters.

    They should of just allowed a account transfer with no characters only name reservations and free copy of ESO for XB1 and PS4. like some other mmos did.

    Talk about ruining a game launch for another platform that been delayed for a year only for them to screw it up just to squeeze extra money.

    What about us that bought the pc version because our console version was delayed should we now lose all our stuff just because we joined the pc side while waiting for the console side ?.

    Yes, you should. If you got to the store to buy X but its not available, so you buy something else to make do for a while, you can't take it back and trade it when X becomes available.

    Now to be fair, I am a pc player, firmly staying on pc for life....BUT I do believe console players deserve the same opening of the gate that we were given. PVP is going to be owned by Vet transfers and Trading will be owned by Vet transfers, and it will take months, (if even) for new console players to have a fair crack at it. It's a bald lie to pretend anything but.

    If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!

  • pmitchell126b16_ESO
    Yes you should
  • pmitchell126b16_ESO
    To be fair also I did play on the PC when it was not F2P. However I decided to come back to PS4 launch with some real life friends and family and that it would hopefully be a fresh start and everyone else will start fresh however it seems this is not the case.

    It like letting in cheaters and bullies coming into a game and bully the new console players that not touched or have played the pc version but hoping for fresh start and one would be better then a PC Launch.
    Edited by pmitchell126b16_ESO on June 7, 2015 5:46PM
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    Yeh, I thought it was kind of strange of them to let people transfer in. One of the things that usually brings me to a new MMO is getting a fresh even start at the beginning. I would be less likely to play a new MMO that already had maxed out people in it. Someone is going to be typing L2P into zone 30 seconds after the game launches.
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    To be fair also I did play on the PC when it was not F2P. However I decided to come back to PS4 launch with some real life friends and family and that it would hopefully be a fresh start and everyone else will start fresh however it seems this is not the case.

    It like letting in cheaters and bullies coming into a game and bully the new console players that not touched or have played the pc version but hoping for fresh start and one would be better then a PC Launch.

    Seeing as the transfer has already happened and your going to have to live with it, what do you plan to do then?.
  • pmitchell126b16_ESO
    Well there is no point doing pvp so I rather do PVE and and let the players that transfered enjoy being in a war zone with no population.

    They can enjoy the wait for couple months for us new players to catch up.
    Edited by pmitchell126b16_ESO on June 7, 2015 6:02PM
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    It wont matter for long. There were max level people running around by the end of the second day of pc early access. The no lifers will be way ahead of most other people in no time flat even without transfers.
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    Hello as a new person coming to ESO for PS4 will there be servers for only fresh starters and not people getting transfered in with there veteran rank 10 characters from pc?

    thanks

    Doesn't look like there will be any separation. In PVE it won't be a a big deal.....in PVP...well....the transfers will have a MASSIVE advantage that new players will never be able to catch up to

    Well, of course new players can catch up eventually and not all of us who are transferring are bullies looking forward to whacking innocents. It seems to me that the ones just looking forward to ganking newbies would get bored and go home pretty quickly unless they are even more unpleasant than they seem.
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    Yeh, I thought it was kind of strange of them to let people transfer in. One of the things that usually brings me to a new MMO is getting a fresh even start at the beginning. I would be less likely to play a new MMO that already had maxed out people in it. Someone is going to be typing L2P into zone 30 seconds after the game launches.


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    Hello as a new person coming to ESO for PS4 will there be servers for only fresh starters and not people getting transfered in with there veteran rank 10 characters from pc?

    Or will we new players have to be bullied by these transfer characters and them screw up the market.

    thanks

    Honestly I cant say whether this will be as big of an issue as some might be worried or not yet. Ill have to weigh in on this once I get into PvP and see how much these Transfers are effecting it. I suspect it wont be that bad though if the playerbase numbers are high enough.
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