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Shooting Star

  • Panda244
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just don't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

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  • Roechacca
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just don't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
  • Panda244
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just don't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!

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  • Huntler
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    As someone who used Shifting Standard a lot as you can see in my Videos..I don't use it over Shooting Star anymore for one simple reason... Shifting Standard is PBAE..meaning I have to charge in and drop it on a group..Which is instant death half the time for me solo...Shooting Star is cheaper/ranged and if they reflect it i'm going to reflect it back for 35% more damage..So yea...There is zero reason for me not to use it.

    keyword is you solo :) Im talking group play my good friend. Meteor definitely prolly a better choice in your position, but I feel as people adapt to the meta that might change as well.
  • Roechacca
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just don't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

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  • Soulac
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    Edited by Soulac on March 11, 2015 9:37PM
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  • Panda244
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    Edited by Panda244 on March 11, 2015 9:38PM
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  • WebBull
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just don't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...

    This ^

    The most surprising thing in the screen shot is caltrops hitting for 3200+. Mine certainly don't. Guess I am doing something wrong.
  • Panda244
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    Aldmeri Dominion For Life!
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    N'tel Arlena - NB - V14 - Retired Sap Tank of Haderus NA, Harasser of Many (Also, not a vampire. Goes by nickname Nutella.)

    #FreeZazeer
    #FreeGooey
    #FreeAsgari
    #FreeAoE
    #FreeSubtomik
    #FreeMBF

    Officially Resigned From Cyrodiil As Of 4/15/15 10:24 PM EST.
  • Roechacca
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

    Cat-Attack-JP.gif
  • Soulac
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    Panda244 wrote: »

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    R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
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  • Panda244
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »

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    Aldmeri Dominion For Life!
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    N'tel Arlena - NB - V14 - Retired Sap Tank of Haderus NA, Harasser of Many (Also, not a vampire. Goes by nickname Nutella.)

    #FreeZazeer
    #FreeGooey
    #FreeAsgari
    #FreeAoE
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  • Soulac
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

    Cat-Attack-JP.gif

    funny-pictures-cat-kills-from-above.jpg
    R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
    Member of the Arena Guild and the overpowered Banana Squad.
    Nathaerizh aka Cat - Nightblade V16 - EU

    - Meow -
  • Roechacca
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    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

    Cat-Attack-JP.gif

    funny-pictures-cat-kills-from-above.jpg

    50K Fall Damage exploit ?! Kiss it right there ...!

    cannot-move-his-hind-legs-this-is-how-he-managed-to-walk---imgur.gif
  • Rune_Relic
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    woodsro wrote: »
    I'm gonna go beyond that and say the whole Mage Guild tree is OP atm.

    - 2% Max Magicka and Magicka Regen for every skill slotted with Magicka Controller
    - Grants Empower after every skill use with Might of the Guild
    - Entropy the cheapest spell damage buff in the game, a must for a very magicka build
    - Meteor the best ultimate for PvP because it's ranged and instant damage and snare and DoT
    - Inner Light now gives you 8% max magicka (+2% from Magicka Controller = 10%) instead of costing 5%

    I'm a Sorc wearing Martial Knowledge, Adroitness and Cyro Light and despite having as much spell damage as possible I still get more raw damage (not to mention sustain) from slotting a Mage's Guild than I do slotting a Sorc skill with Expert Mage.

    I mean, why wouldn't you slot as many Mage's Guild abilities as possible? Even in PvE, is there a magicka DPS that doesn't have at least 3 Mages Guild abilities on DPS bar (Entropy,Inner Light, Meteor)?

    What they did was they nerfed class skill trees and made a guild tree OP so now you can't shout about class imbalance because every class has access to that. Never mind the fact that everybody uses the same skills now....

    Well it is the Mage's Guild...Vanus Galerion was trained by the same people as Mannimacro(The Psyjiic Order) whom are very, very, very powerful. Most of the most powerful beings in TES Lore are mages...Zurin Artcus, Jager Tharn, Soth Sil (was with the Psyjiics before using Lorhkan's Heart to be one of the Tribunal) just to name a few. Magic is supposed to be powerful, and think about it...being hit with a Meteor falling out of the sky isn't exactly a small thing....

    As for the Mage's Guild, its about time...now they just need to buff the Fighter's Guild in a similar way.

    I thin k all mages guild should be vs daedra only skills...like fighters guild.
    Anything that can be exploited will be exploited
  • Soulac
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

    Cat-Attack-JP.gif

    funny-pictures-cat-kills-from-above.jpg

    50K Fall Damage exploit ?! Kiss it right there ...!

    cannot-move-his-hind-legs-this-is-how-he-managed-to-walk---imgur.gif

    *eliminating the you-know-what*
    537px-LaserCats.jpg


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    Member of the Arena Guild and the overpowered Banana Squad.
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  • Panda244
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

    Cat-Attack-JP.gif

    funny-pictures-cat-kills-from-above.jpg

    50K Fall Damage exploit ?! Kiss it right there ...!

    cannot-move-his-hind-legs-this-is-how-he-managed-to-walk---imgur.gif

    That reminds me, I got my new PC today so I should be back in game in another day or so. I gotta get it set up, re-install ESO, download Chrome, get Steam, get myself a monitor and somewhere to put the thing and I'll be good. Anyways... Back on topic.

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  • kelly.medleyb14_ESO
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    Just use reflective scales... duh.
  • Roechacca
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    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
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    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

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    50K Fall Damage exploit ?! Kiss it right there ...!

    cannot-move-his-hind-legs-this-is-how-he-managed-to-walk---imgur.gif

    *eliminating the you-know-what*
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    Surely you jest my child

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  • Soulac
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

    Cat-Attack-JP.gif

    funny-pictures-cat-kills-from-above.jpg

    50K Fall Damage exploit ?! Kiss it right there ...!

    cannot-move-his-hind-legs-this-is-how-he-managed-to-walk---imgur.gif

    *eliminating the you-know-what*
    537px-LaserCats.jpg


    Surely you jest my child

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  • Roechacca
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    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

    Cat-Attack-JP.gif

    funny-pictures-cat-kills-from-above.jpg

    50K Fall Damage exploit ?! Kiss it right there ...!

    cannot-move-his-hind-legs-this-is-how-he-managed-to-walk---imgur.gif

    *eliminating the you-know-what*
    537px-LaserCats.jpg


    Surely you jest my child

    sam-beam.jpg

    smite_cat.jpg

    167.gif



    The Temple forgives all after purification .
  • Soulac
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    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

    Cat-Attack-JP.gif

    funny-pictures-cat-kills-from-above.jpg

    50K Fall Damage exploit ?! Kiss it right there ...!

    cannot-move-his-hind-legs-this-is-how-he-managed-to-walk---imgur.gif

    *eliminating the you-know-what*
    537px-LaserCats.jpg


    Surely you jest my child

    sam-beam.jpg

    smite_cat.jpg

    167.gif



    The Temple forgives all after purification .

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    R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
    Member of the Arena Guild and the overpowered Banana Squad.
    Nathaerizh aka Cat - Nightblade V16 - EU

    - Meow -
  • Roechacca
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    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    roechacca wrote: »
    Panda244 wrote: »
    The argument above between using Standard and Meteor is a sarcastic one right? In every situation but one, Meteor is the superior Ultimate in PvP.

    Standard Cons
    • Can Be Rolled Out Of.
    • Can Be Negated.
    • Can Be Healed Through Because DoT.
    • Can Be Ignored If You're A Tank.
    • Useless After Cast Because Stationary.
    Standard Pros
    • Kills Idiots.
    Meteor Cons
    • Reflectable.
    Meteor Pros
    • Strong Initial Burst.
    • High Damage DoT.
    • Kills Idiots & Skilled Players.
    • Cannot Be Healed Through Because Burst.
    • Cannot Be Negated.
    • Can Be Re-Reflected.
    • Not So Useless After Cast Because It Gives Back Ultimate Afterwards & Idiots Stand In DoT Because It Didn't Use To Have DoT.

    What this really comes down to... Is....
    fdf22h.jpg

    Stop . It's not meteor when it works right it's the added fall damage bug that hits for 50K sometimes . Everyone now knows it's bugged and their using it anyways . That's fine too . Just dComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg
    on't throw the Abra Ka Pokus blanket over the issue and tell everyone it's nothing ...
    @roechacca sarcasm_o_276587.jpg

    No . You didn't even use the sarcastic font ...
    Oh... Oh so it's going to be like that is it... @Soulac get in here with your cat memes and show this poser his place!


    Challenge accepted

    ComeAtMeBro-illTurtleSlapTheShitOutOfYou.jpg

    So it's Forum-Fu u want ? Your buged shooting star turtles are powerless against Khajiit bug testers !

    Cat-Attack-JP.gif

    funny-pictures-cat-kills-from-above.jpg

    50K Fall Damage exploit ?! Kiss it right there ...!

    cannot-move-his-hind-legs-this-is-how-he-managed-to-walk---imgur.gif

    *eliminating the you-know-what*
    537px-LaserCats.jpg


    Surely you jest my child

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    smite_cat.jpg

    167.gif



    The Temple forgives all after purification .

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    Oh holy Jesusbeam plushie
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    R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
    Member of the Arena Guild and the overpowered Banana Squad.
    Nathaerizh aka Cat - Nightblade V16 - EU

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  • Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO
    Psilent wrote: »
    Naw there's something up with it. I watched tonight as alswell was taken and inside of the keep 30 meteors dropped..then 30 more10 seconds later...there weren't that many people sieging.

    Are you sure this is Shooting Star/Icy Comet or the proc from Skoria? A lot of DK's are running Skoria and the proc is a meteor. I died at Aleswell Farm on Chillrend an hour ago and saw like 6 to 7 of these fall in a few seconds while I laid there waiting for my buddy to rez me.

    Honestly I don't know. I'm assuming Skoria is an armor set from dungeons?(Iver never run any of those dungeons). But it would still be odd that it proccd that much wouldn't it?

    It procs a lot ! Let me tell you. Between this set and the shooting star I am meteor shower of death.
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    Domander wrote: »
    I'm gonna go beyond that and say the whole Mage Guild tree is OP atm.

    - 2% Max Magicka and Magicka Regen for every skill slotted with Magicka Controller
    - Grants Empower after every skill use with Might of the Guild
    - Entropy the cheapest spell damage buff in the game, a must for a very magicka build
    - Meteor the best ultimate for PvP because it's ranged and instant damage and snare and DoT
    - Inner Light now gives you 8% max magicka (+2% from Magicka Controller = 10%) instead of costing 5%

    I'm a Sorc wearing Martial Knowledge, Adroitness and Cyro Light and despite having as much spell damage as possible I still get more raw damage (not to mention sustain) from slotting a Mage's Guild than I do slotting a Sorc skill with Expert Mage.

    I mean, why wouldn't you slot as many Mage's Guild abilities as possible? Even in PvE, is there a magicka DPS that doesn't have at least 3 Mages Guild abilities on DPS bar (Entropy,Inner Light, Meteor)?

    What they did was they nerfed class skill trees and made a guild tree OP so now you can't shout about class imbalance because every class has access to that. Never mind the fact that everybody uses the same skills now....

    um.... inner light does not give 8%

    meteor being the best ultimate is obviously situational

    The guild tree is pretty similar to how it's always been except for the nice buff to entropy that makes is more useful. Inner light is 10% less crit than it used to give, but 5% max magicka. It also lost the detect bonus.


    Okay Inner Light gives 5% not 8%, my bad.

    Every skill is situational. Meteor being the best in cost/effectiveness ratio is rather obvious I'd say by the rain of Meteors in PvP. Even if you don't use it, you'd be silly not to slot it for the Magicka Controller bonus.

    Entropy did not get a "nice" buff. It got a huge buff for its cost, for a very long duration too. It gives the same buff as Power Surge for nearly 1/5 of the cost. Again, it's obvious how good it is as every Magicka build is running it.

    The whole tree got Empower on skill activation which it didn't before. You forgot to mention that. Also you forgot to mention that while Inner Light only gives 10% crit, you now get a base 10% anyway, so the net effect is a big buff from it.

    The tree has always had the damage buff on next attack, so there was no need to mention it.

    Entropy got made useful, sorcs and nightblades can get the buff from their class skills, the other 2 classes cannot, so if they want that buff they need entropy or a potion. The duration is also less than all the other sources of that buff.

    The fact that you got the % wrong on inner light and the lack of knowledge showing kind of kills your credibility to argue.



    and to add to the conversation of this thread, I've been really enjoying the meteors in large scale combat. They're pretty fun to watch/hear/use.
    Edited by Domander on March 11, 2015 11:26PM
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    Every victim of a shooting start should be able to make a wish.
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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
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  • Cyantific87
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    I've had meteor slotted since well before 1.6 mainly for the +2% max magicka and regen. Never really used it in pvp. I'm glad it has become a viable option for an actual useable, not just slottable, ultimate.
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