Why Can't ESO Look Like Destiny? :(

EJRose83

Seriously! I realize those types of graphics are not do-able while running around with hundreds of other players in the world, especially during PVP, but I think it would have made for a much more impressive game, albeit one limited in it's function as an MMO. Would have been worth it though in my opinion.

cyqa

I think ESO is a beautiful game, as it is. I actually really love how it looks.

And I also like being able to run it on almost all high settings on an ASUS laptop from 2012. If it looked like Destiny, I'd be waiting for the console launch

/Edit: Year typo

Yiiiikes

Because it isn't Destiny...

Gidorick

Destiny is a science fiction multiplayer first person shooter with map sizes about 1/5 of each of ESO's zones. This is like asking why a Ferrari can't be like a Yacht.... because they are very different things.

EJRose83

I love ESO, but graphically, the game has always been a sort of mixed bag for me. Up close and in crowded areas, the game seems really impressive, but with the limited view distance and the reuse of the same textures over and over and over again for some of the zones (All of the cities in High Rock look the same. Same goes for all of the faction areas really), it just comes across as monotonous and repetitive after a while. It's definitely missing that cinematic quality you see so often in next gen games these days. C'est la vie though...

Darlantan

EJRose83 wrote: »

Seriously! I realize those types of graphics are not do-able while running around with hundreds of other players in the world, especially during PVP, but I think it would have made for a much more impressive game, albeit one limited in it's function as an MMO. Would have been worth it though in my opinion.

Euh really... That is exactly why... It's a multiplayer game and they want the most player they can have. Requiring a r9 290x or gtx 970 with a i-7 with 8 Gig of ram is a sure way of not reaching that goal.

Some people are already complaining about the required spec for ESO. It's was the same thing with Nevewinter. I mean people that came from WoW could not understand with they had low fps in NW.

Note : The WoW requirement changed with time but you get the idea...

Iluvrien

I have attempted to wrap words around why this, as even a basic concept, wouldn't work. I have attempted to do so three times...

...and in each case the fundamental flaw to this suggestion is so utterly gargantuan that I honestly can't find phrases that are adequate to convey it.

My only response has to be..... 0.o

EJRose83

@Darlantan The thing that inspired this post is the fact that Destiny's graphics are achievable on the current generation of consoles, which is an impressive feat. I would argue that consoles actually have a larger dedicated player base than PCs (only 14% of Skyrim's total sells were on PC) as well and so there isn't really a need to cater towards the lower end of the PC spec spectrum.

EJRose83

Granted, it's obviously way too late now to change anything. Still though, one can dream :P

Eldarth

Hmm, that's funny -- it's the most beautiful looking MMO I have seen yet on my video card.

arqe

Destiny graphics are impressive feat ? I didnt knew that ...

Darlantan

EJRose83 wrote: »

@Darlantan The thing that inspired this post is the fact that Destiny's graphics are achievable on the current generation of consoles, which is an impressive feat. I would argue that consoles actually have a larger dedicated player base than PCs (only 14% of Skyrim's total sells were on PC) as well and so there isn't really a need to cater towards the lower end of the PC spec spectrum.

Hum.. You are forgetting one important thing with console. They know the spec can't change. That mean they can optimize the game for it very easy. It's not the same on computer and ESO came out on computer before and not the other way around.

Also, like i already say before. It's a MMO. They do have to cater to greater range of computer so that mean lower graphic. They want players, not just top of the cream.

That does not mean that i do not wish it had better graphic but they have to compromise when it come to MMO and computer.

Note : Last time i checked those number did not included all the DD sales (like from Steam since it seem they do not give those number) and i am sure it did not include the pirated copy.

Digiman

EJRose83 wrote: »

Seriously! I realize those types of graphics are not do-able while running around with hundreds of other players in the world, especially during PVP, but I think it would have made for a much more impressive game, albeit one limited in it's function as an MMO. Would have been worth it though in my opinion.

Destiny is a grind heavy storyless horde battle basic boring game with everything banked in DLC purchases. It's also a sci-fiction game based from bungie.

Your basically say "Why can't a ES series look like Halo."

I never will play destiny, never intended to. I played ESO because I love ES games, and quite frankly am astounded that this game still managed to capture a lot of similarities between skyrim graphics level for an MMO.

Finally Destiny isn't an MMO, which is why they are able to pump so much into the graphics department without stressing latency issues.

Seraphyel

EJRose83 wrote: »

Seriously! I realize those types of graphics are not do-able while running around with hundreds of other players in the world, especially during PVP, but I think it would have made for a much more impressive game, albeit one limited in it's function as an MMO. Would have been worth it though in my opinion.

Destiny has an even worse gameplay than ESO despite it's graphics are better. I choose the ESO version.

Rosveen

Change the genre of the game to make it look prettier? And you think that would be a good idea? Just... what?

Rosveen

EJRose83 wrote: »

@Darlantan The thing that inspired this post is the fact that Destiny's graphics are achievable on the current generation of consoles, which is an impressive feat. I would argue that consoles actually have a larger dedicated player base than PCs (only 14% of Skyrim's total sells were on PC) as well and so there isn't really a need to cater towards the lower end of the PC spec spectrum.

Incorrect data. The 14% figure comes from a source not tracking digital sales. I can assure you that the majority of sales on PC were digital.

kevlarto_ESO

I am glad every game does not look like every other game, and I think eso looks just fine, and has it's own personality

Kragorn

cyqa wrote: »

I think ESO is a beautiful game, as it is. I actually really love how it looks.

I agree, it's the most beautiful and detailed piece of world-building I've seen in an MMO.

@EJRose83 you say you know why it can't happen yet still say to wish it had .. not sure what about it would have been "worth it" given you realise it wouldn't be a practical MMO: and frankly ESO would make a terrible 'TES' game in my book.

Kragorn

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

I am glad every game does not look like every other game, and I think eso looks just fine, and has it's own personality

That's why I enjoy playing WOW, it's 'toony' nature makes the graphics full of character.

Seraphyel

Kragorn wrote: »

cyqa wrote: »

I think ESO is a beautiful game, as it is. I actually really love how it looks.

I agree, it's the most beautiful and detailed piece of world-building I've seen in an MMO.

@EJRose83 you say you know why it can't happen yet still say to wish it had .. not sure what about it would have been "worth it" given you realise it wouldn't be a practical MMO: and frankly ESO would make a terrible 'TES' game in my book.

You never saw GW2, did you?

ESO has impressive visuals, no doubt about it, but nothing can be compared to the world-building of GW2. There is nearly no copy & paste in GW2, the whole zones are totally different and the details of the graphics are incredible. And the most important thing, the world seems to be "living". That's a feeling I mostly missed in ESO.

WhiskyBob

Thank God ESO is nothing like Destiny.

Kragorn

Seraphyel wrote: »

Kragorn wrote: »

cyqa wrote: »

I think ESO is a beautiful game, as it is. I actually really love how it looks.

I agree, it's the most beautiful and detailed piece of world-building I've seen in an MMO.

@EJRose83 you say you know why it can't happen yet still say to wish it had .. not sure what about it would have been "worth it" given you realise it wouldn't be a practical MMO: and frankly ESO would make a terrible 'TES' game in my book.

You never saw GW2, did you?

ESO has impressive visuals, no doubt about it, but nothing can be compared to the world-building of GW2. There is nearly no copy & paste in GW2, the whole zones are totally different and the details of the graphics are incredible. And the most important thing, the world seems to be "living". That's a feeling I mostly missed in ESO.

I play GW2, I have 5 level 80s.

IMO GW2's graphics aren't as good as ESO's in that they're far less detailed (nothing in GW2 has the attention to detail I would suggest that zones like Malabol Tor have, where the atmosphere of being in heavy woodland is really impressive.

I do like Tyria and I think it's very well done, but for me ZOS is better looking.

However, I certainly agree that Tyria feels more 'lived in'. At times ESO feels too uniform in its architecture considering the disperate nature of the many races: the 'feel' of Daggerfall is good, but the feeling in Wayrest is the same because the architecture is the same even though supposedly in TES lore they're entirely different countries.

NewBlacksmurf

I think TESO looks better than Destiny by far.
Maybe it's that you desire cartoon looking textures over more realistic textures......

Why?
-I think ZOS has a faq that is old but it has remarks about the PC requirements and why they went the direction they have

bertenburnyb16_ESO

as long as it doesnt have the amount of content as destiny (aka 1 week)

Dreamo84

I like that the OP answered his question for us

Dreamo84

I would rather ask, however, why can't it look like Skyrim?! At least the character models

Egonieser

Wait, what? OP is comparing Destiny to ESO? Hmmm... Why does a elephant have a trunk and a fly has wings? Why oh why can't they all be the same. Why can't we all be blue and live in a little blue house with a little blue window and a blue car wreck outside.... The World would be a much much nicer place if we all were blue and everything was blue...

Srsly though, wut?!

eacorralesb14_ESO

Well if you really like Destiny, you should go play Destiny then! And make a lot of new high school friends and play with them while everybody spam on mike: "swag" "yolo" "lolz" "trololo" thats a better game for you then! Go ahead! Grab your xbox and get some good graphics and enjoyable toxic community!

wOOOOt_of_SD

WTF? ESO is the best looking MMO on the market. It has many other flaws, but it looks gorgeous!

Mathius_Mordred

Dreamo84 wrote: »

I would rather ask, however, why can't it look like Skyrim?! At least the character models

It's all down to PC spec, it could look like a heavily modded Skyrim if they wanted, change all the textures to 2K minimum, improve the meshes, improve lighting, shadows, water, distance rendering and so on, but your average 3 year old laptop would have a coronary and it would require a minimum GTX660, 4Gb ram and a quad core, and that would be on low settings. In 5 years time ESO may look like a modded Skyrim does now, but these things take time, the devs have to wait for the joe public to catch up, so you're always going to find MMOs behind SP games.

Having said all that, I think ESO is simply stunning for an MMO, I used to think STO was good, and it was 5 years ago, now compared to ESO it looks bland and lacking detail, even the newer areas, and that game sucks your FPS more than any I know.

Give it time.

Tarikko

I wish Zenimax would release high res texture pack.. Like Bethesda did after Skyrim's release.

That is all the game needs visually.