Why does Sheogorath get more screen time than Molag Ball?

Iago · February 2015

Why does Sheogorath get more screen time than Molag Ball?

Seriously Molag Ball is the main Villan surely he deserves better than a second rate part within the game.

Panda244 · February 2015

Sheogorath is funnier, all Molag can do is insult you over and over...

Iago · February 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

Sheogorath is funnier, all Molag can do is insult you over and over...

I'm sure that was their reasoning but seriously they should have made Sheogorath the main villan then

Shadesofkin · February 2015

Yeah, I never got why we didn't see more of Molag Bal either, but I'd be all for seeing a lot more of the daedric princes in general.

PSLAnimal · February 2015

Because, cheese.

Panda244 · February 2015

Iago wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Sheogorath is funnier, all Molag can do is insult you over and over...

I'm sure that was their reasoning but seriously they should have made Sheogorath the main villan then

Yeah, I'm sure in future DLC we'll see more of Molag Bal and other Daedric Princes, after all, Meridia says that we've stoked their interest, so they kind of HAVE. To add a future story with more Daedra... I for one would love to sit down and have a glass of tea with yours truly, Clavicus Vile.

Iago · February 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

Iago wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Sheogorath is funnier, all Molag can do is insult you over and over...

I'm sure that was their reasoning but seriously they should have made Sheogorath the main villan then

Yeah, I'm sure in future DLC we'll see more of Molag Bal and other Daedric Princes, after all, Meridia says that we've stoked their interest, so they kind of HAVE. To add a future story with more Daedra... I for one would love to sit down and have a glass of tea with yours truly, Clavicus Vile.

I also look forward to meeting Bothia, Mehrunes Dagon, and Azura

Sigtric · February 2015

PSLAnimal wrote: »

Because, cheese.

This.

We'll later discover with the first large expansion to the game, that Sheo is indeed the real villain, after all of Tamriel's cheese is magicked away by the mad god.

Panda244 · February 2015

Iago wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Iago wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Sheogorath is funnier, all Molag can do is insult you over and over...

I'm sure that was their reasoning but seriously they should have made Sheogorath the main villan then

Yeah, I'm sure in future DLC we'll see more of Molag Bal and other Daedric Princes, after all, Meridia says that we've stoked their interest, so they kind of HAVE. To add a future story with more Daedra... I for one would love to sit down and have a glass of tea with yours truly, Clavicus Vile.

I also look forward to meeting Bothia, Mehrunes Dagon, and Azura

Boethiah can eat my toes for all I care, Mehrunes isn't any fun... Molag Bal has the best voice actor of any villain ever. Uncle Sheo is Uncle ****ing Sheo, meeting with Mephala would be fun... Cause um..
"Mephala is the demon prince of murder, sex, and secrets."

Fun times with Mephala, if you know what I mean

In truth though, I want to see some more interaction with Hermaeus Mora, Sanguine, Nocturnal, and Mephala, and since there's suppose to be a new content zone called "Mephala's Realm" it appears that I will get my wish.

TheShadowScout · February 2015

Iago wrote: »

Why does Sheogorath get more screen time than Molag Ball?

Crazy, huh?

On a more serious matter, I am all for making more deadric powers in-game acquaintence. Soo many more quests to deal with them that we could have...

Panda244 wrote: »

Fun times with Mephala, if you know what I mean

I know what you mean! I could say more, but... it'd likely get censored to protect innoncent eyes... just saying, Mehpala is always good for a big surprise in that regard...

WraithAzraiel · February 2015

Because if you were constantly seeing your main villain it would cheapen it. Instead of being perceived to be of great importance he'd be that guy you're seeing everywhere.

"Oh it's just Molag Bal, he's around ever corner. It's okay, I'll handle this, be back in 2 minutes."

Rather than, " OH SH*@ It's Molag Bal! RUN!"

WraithAzraiel · February 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

Iago wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Iago wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Sheogorath is funnier, all Molag can do is insult you over and over...

I'm sure that was their reasoning but seriously they should have made Sheogorath the main villan then

Yeah, I'm sure in future DLC we'll see more of Molag Bal and other Daedric Princes, after all, Meridia says that we've stoked their interest, so they kind of HAVE. To add a future story with more Daedra... I for one would love to sit down and have a glass of tea with yours truly, Clavicus Vile.

I also look forward to meeting Bothia, Mehrunes Dagon, and Azura

Boethiah can eat my toes for all I care, Mehrunes isn't any fun... Molag Bal has the best voice actor of any villain ever. Uncle Sheo is Uncle ****ing Sheo, meeting with Mephala would be fun... Cause um..
"Mephala is the demon prince of murder, sex, and secrets."

Fun times with Mephala, if you know what I mean

In truth though, I want to see some more interaction with Hermaeus Mora, Sanguine, Nocturnal, and Mephala, and since there's suppose to be a new content zone called "Mephala's Realm" it appears that I will get my wish.

Isn't Mephala also the one that appears as a Spider Daedra?

Yea no, that's not attractive. It she were more like Lolth and less like Arachnaphobia, maybe.

DanielMaxwell · February 2015

Iago wrote: »

Why does Sheogorath get more screen time than Molag Ball?

Seriously Molag Ball is the main Villan surely he deserves better than a second rate part within the game.

Because Sheogorath has a better agent , he also got paid more them Molag Bal did.

Soulshine · February 2015

well, the way I see him... Molag Bal is about as interesting a villain as watching paint dry. Even the fight with him at the end of the main story is just a snoozfest, considering what the stakes were supposed to be.

Sheogorath has sick charisma - it's hard not to like him, no matter what he does.

Natjur · February 2015

Cause he sells more T-shirts then Molag Ball
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Panda244 · February 2015

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Iago wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Iago wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Sheogorath is funnier, all Molag can do is insult you over and over...

I'm sure that was their reasoning but seriously they should have made Sheogorath the main villan then

Yeah, I'm sure in future DLC we'll see more of Molag Bal and other Daedric Princes, after all, Meridia says that we've stoked their interest, so they kind of HAVE. To add a future story with more Daedra... I for one would love to sit down and have a glass of tea with yours truly, Clavicus Vile.

I also look forward to meeting Bothia, Mehrunes Dagon, and Azura

Boethiah can eat my toes for all I care, Mehrunes isn't any fun... Molag Bal has the best voice actor of any villain ever. Uncle Sheo is Uncle ****ing Sheo, meeting with Mephala would be fun... Cause um..
"Mephala is the demon prince of murder, sex, and secrets."

Fun times with Mephala, if you know what I mean

In truth though, I want to see some more interaction with Hermaeus Mora, Sanguine, Nocturnal, and Mephala, and since there's suppose to be a new content zone called "Mephala's Realm" it appears that I will get my wish.

Isn't Mephala also the one that appears as a Spider Daedra?
Yea no, that's not attractive. It she were more like Lolth and less like Arachnaphobia, maybe.

They can appear as whatever they want to be... Like this.

Like this.

Which happens to be eerily sexy.
And like this.

Which happens to be just plain sexy. I'm sure @TheShadowScout will agree with me

I mean there's always the Spider Daedra

But at least Spider Daedra is prettier than Harvester... I wouldn't mind getting myself caught in her web, wink wink, nudge nudge.

Okay I'll stop now.

Sheuib · February 2015

Because Sheogorath is awesome. And, you are his favorite mortal so he come to see you. Alternatively, Molag Bal doesn't like you and wishes you would just go away. Oh, and cheese.

PSLAnimal · February 2015

Sheuib wrote: »

Oh, and cheese.

Right?

Spottswoode · February 2015

Compared to other daedric princes, Sheogorath has fewer direct enemies (his greatest one is himself) , his "big plans" are usually pretty benign compared to the other princes plans, his interaction with Mundus is pretty limited in scope but always constant, and his motive is pretty much always "to have fun." In the spheres of the gods, this doesn't make him much of a threat to most of their long term goals so he needn't fear reprisal or attack for poking his head out here and there.
So unlike Molag Bal, whose evil plans merit the direct attention and action of Meridia, Sheogorath pretty much doesn't warrant an army to go after him the minute he pops up. He might just pop up to make it rain burning dogs. Or turn the rivers into cheese.

I'm more curious as to why the other princes don't band together to oppose this kind of thing whenever it happens. It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that none of the other princes wanted Mundus to be merged with Coldharbour. Well, except for maybe Sheogorath.

SG_Celerrimus · February 2015

For some reason, I get this sneaking suspicion that we might be doing something with Uncle Sheo sometime soon. Whether that be us fighting against him, or along side him, I couldn't say, but I feel ZOS is subtlety building towards a DLC where he is the main focus.

FadedJeans · February 2015

I must be in the minority. I don't really get or enjoy (Sheo) the character much. Capricious and inexplicable aren't that captivating for me, not to the depths they seem to have been plumbed. Valaste was a far more compelling character, to me, and really the only thing I cherished about that storyline.

Anvos · February 2015

Well 90% of the game takes place outside Coldharbor and since probably only the prime anchor over the imperial city could allow him to enter this plane there is that, plus like most deadric princes he doesn't really consider mortals a threat until their smashing in his face with aedric or other such power.

Though there is an interesting possibility with Sheo of what if Jyyggallag was manipulating his other half and hid part of his essence on/in Eveya last time he smashed the Shivering Isles as a calculated risk that Shalidor would one day get it back, freeing part of him from Sheograth.

dodgehopper_ESO · February 2015

I also get the sense that old Sir Pot-head, Cadwell, is a champion of Sheogorath. Sheogorath has been pulling our strings the moment we joined the Mages Guild and met up with Shalidor. I agree that I don't believe we've seen the last of Sheogorath, and I think @Anvos is right that there is probably some Jyggalyg schemes of Order going on behind the mad mask. By the way, I wonder how these ultra powerful beings get twisted. Sheogorath was once Jyggalyg and very powerful, and the other Daedra teamed up on him and made him mad. Boethiah twisted Trinimac in to Malacath. It makes you wonder if some of the other Daedra might not have had the same happen to them.

Hypertionb14_ESO · February 2015

Sheo is very much a Diva... has been ever since Oblivion, where he had his own expansion and a quest so silly it made his previous incarnations look boring.

if you have a popular character, you flaunt them!

Sheogorath wouldnt allow anything less...

Iago · February 2015

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

Sheo is very much a Diva... has been ever since Oblivion, where he had his own expansion and a quest so silly it made his previous incarnations look boring.

if you have a popular character, you flaunt them!

Sheogorath wouldnt allow anything less...

he's OK but he's kind of annoying

TheShadowScout · February 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

They can appear as whatever they want to be... Like this.
Which happens to be eerily sexy.
Which happens to be just plain sexy. I'm sure @TheShadowScout will agree with me

Oh, I definitely do agree.

That one is actually my second favorite Mephala picture. My favorite? Well...

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If my Leskandera had a apartment room, she's have that one hanging on the wall...

Of course, there are other pictures of mephala I like but... again, not something that could be safely posted here due to naughtyness factor (I shall only mention... Rule 34...)

Of course, I know all too well I am wierd and like eerie sexyness. Among other things.

But getting back to other thoughts...

...the final cutscene Does have Molag Bal hinting there are worse deadric powers then him, which may now step up to take over and finish what he started. The very first time I heard that, I was thinking "Ah... expansions are coming", and someday, some other powers will make their move, for a new questline showing up in some DLC. I just hope they will be well done to carry on the tradition of nifty ESO stories... Guess pretty much the only one we don't have to worry about in that regard -is- uncle Sheo, who is more a madman for the details, and not the largescale schemes...
But I would be looking forward to meet more powers in "person" instead of speaking through some of their minion daedra...

Hypertionb14_ESO · February 2015

Iago wrote: »

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

Sheo is very much a Diva... has been ever since Oblivion, where he had his own expansion and a quest so silly it made his previous incarnations look boring.

if you have a popular character, you flaunt them!

Sheogorath wouldnt allow anything less...

he's OK but he's kind of annoying

it does get old pretty quick. more so if your a older player of the series and have already sat through the shivering isles expansion

crazy is fun, but definitely can get old fast.

Panda244 · February 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

They can appear as whatever they want to be... Like this.
Which happens to be eerily sexy.
Which happens to be just plain sexy. I'm sure @TheShadowScout will agree with me

Oh, I definitely do agree.

That one is actually my second favorite Mephala picture. My favorite? Well...
If my Leskandera had a apartment room, she's have that one hanging on the wall...
Of course, there are other pictures of mephala I like but... again, not something that could be safely posted here due to naughtyness factor (I shall only mention... Rule 34...)
Of course, I know all too well I am wierd and like eerie sexyness. Among other things.

But getting back to other thoughts...

...the final cutscene Does have Molag Bal hinting there are worse deadric powers then him, which may now step up to take over and finish what he started. The very first time I heard that, I was thinking "Ah... expansions are coming", and someday, some other powers will make their move, for a new questline showing up in some DLC. I just hope they will be well done to carry on the tradition of nifty ESO stories... Guess pretty much the only one we don't have to worry about in that regard -is- uncle Sheo, who is more a madman for the details, and not the largescale schemes...
But I would be looking forward to meet more powers in "person" instead of speaking through some of their minion daedra...

Yeah, Molag hints at it and Meridia basically assures us that the Daedric Princes aren't done with our character.
As for Rule 34. /facesemitruck

Faulgor · February 2015

FadedJeans wrote: »

I must be in the minority. I don't really get or enjoy (Sheo) the character much. Capricious and inexplicable aren't that captivating for me, not to the depths they seem to have been plumbed. Valaste was a far more compelling character, to me, and really the only thing I cherished about that storyline.

Besides, he should be absolutely terrifying in his madness, not a second rate circus clown with oddly coloured eyes talking about cheese all the time. His so called "madness" is absolutely predictable by now, and I wish they would just leave him be. Everything they do with him just feels like fenservice to me.

I'd rather see more of the less developed Daedra, like Peryite and Namira.

bosmern_ESO · February 2015

Iago wrote: »

Why does Sheogorath get more screen time than Molag Ball?

Seriously Molag Ball is the main Villan surely he deserves better than a second rate part within the game.

The real reason is because Sheogorath is the Daedric prince that interacts the most with mortals, that's how its been in every ES game, he usually shows up to make you do silly stuff which is actually fairly entertaining. (In Oblivion he got his own DLC that could be seen as a second game).

Praise the Skooma cat! (If you don't know who Skooma cat, its Sheogorath. That's what the Khajiit refer him as.)

Kragorn · February 2015

Iago wrote: »

Why does Sheogorath get more screen time than Molag Ball?

Because he's amusing and likeable, in an odd sort of way.