So i heard people saying they previewed necrom on pts?

YetAnotherLinuxUser · May 2023

i just tried to look at it on pts server and was confronted with a request to upgrade to necrom on pts? So i cant play necrom on pts unless i have preordered it? So i cant see if i wold even like it enough to buy it from playing it on pts? I know they just upgraded the pts server today... maybe that was the upgrade to lock people out? Someone help me understand... please and thank you..

Luke_Flamesword · May 2023

It was locked just today to test access levels. You had couple weeks before, now it's too late...

TaSheen · May 2023

I don't know myself - I don't have the data available to download (and update half a dozen times) the PTS. I *think* I remember hearing that the PTS is "locked" before release of the chapter, but I don't know if it was 3 weeks early, and I certainly don't know if it's locked if you don't preorder the chapter.

So I looked at the patch notes from today:

Please note during this week, access to the Necrom Chapter will be restricted to those who pre-purchased the Chapter to test proper access levels ahead of it launching on June 5.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/633831/pts-patch-notes-v9-0-4

Dagoth_Rac · May 2023

The Chapters are generally available to everyone for a few weeks on PTS, then they switch to test that people who purchased it actually have access, and people who did not purchase it do not have access. There were problems with past live rollouts where people who should have access do not, and people who should not have access do. So that is tested on PTS shortly before pushing to live.

The PTS is a testing server, not a "try before you buy" server. You can kinda-sorta treat it as try before you buy, but that is not the purpose of PTS and cannot be expected behavior.

YetAnotherLinuxUser · May 2023

Ty all for clarifying. Right not a try B4 buy server but now I have no means by which to further consider the claims made in another thread about reasons why people chose to not buy it.

Elsonso · May 2023

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

The Chapters are generally available to everyone for a few weeks on PTS, then they switch to test that people who purchased it actually have access, and people who did not purchase it do not have access. There were problems with past live rollouts where people who should have access do not, and people who should not have access do. So that is tested on PTS shortly before pushing to live.

The PTS is a testing server, not a "try before you buy" server. You can kinda-sorta treat it as try before you buy, but that is not the purpose of PTS and cannot be expected behavior.

Well... I use it as a "try before you buy" server. Just need to be mindful of when you can try and what might change before you get what you buy.

ADarklore · May 2023

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

Ty all for clarifying. Right not a try B4 buy server but now I have no means by which to further consider the claims made in another thread about reasons why people chose to not buy it.

Well, take those negative comments with a grain of salt. We have a lot of bitter players who have not recovered from the Update 35 nerfs and balance changes, so anything short of reversing those they will complain about everything and anything ZOS tries to do.

Personally, I have tried PTS and having a blast with Arcanist. I am also looking forward to the new companions as well. Anything that adds more quests and especially new companions, and I'm all for it.

YetAnotherLinuxUser · May 2023

yah the arcanist was the one thing i thought would be interesting. was hoping to try it out a bit but i'm too slow i guess.

shadyjane62 · May 2023

I tried the PTS and gave up out of boredom.

shadyjane62 · May 2023

I haven't purchased the Necrom chapter, but I just tried to get in and had no problem.

YetAnotherLinuxUser · May 2023

shadyjane62 wrote: »

I haven't purchased the Necrom chapter, but I just tried to get in and had no problem.

did you try traveling to the ne part of the telvani peninsula and there were things there greyed out? I was encouraged by your post but it still asks me to upgrade on pts. getting in to pts is not the issue it's accessing the new chapter that's not working right now.

Also tried to make a new character and couldnt use arcanist or necromancer

phaneub17_ESO · May 2023

New class is underwhelming, hard to weave, and crux is so-so... it's great!

rpa · May 2023

PTS is a test server. Not a free preview server. New chapter/DLC is usually temporarily available for all for few weeks but normally only for players who have access to content or have prepurchased it can access it at pts. (Some DLC may or may not be available at PTS crown store for test crowns.) I faintly remember some chapter PTS was only made accessible for prepurchasers so I did not participate, cause I buy my chapters from sale.
As for new class, I tried a template char casually and it felt ok I guess, except visuals felt bit too scifi for medieval fantasy theme and also circling bright green things give me headache. (Also tested oakensoul HA nerf and it is still good for a casual and switching one of the sets make it even more powerful.)

YetAnotherLinuxUser · May 2023

rpa wrote: »

PTS is a test server. Not a free preview server. New chapter/DLC is usually temporarily available for all for few weeks but normally only for players who have access to content or have prepurchased it can access it at pts. (Some DLC may or may not be available at PTS crown store for test crowns.) I faintly remember some chapter PTS was only made accessible for prepurchasers so I did not participate, cause I buy my chapters from sale.
As for new class, I tried a template char casually and it felt ok I guess, except visuals felt bit too scifi for medieval fantasy theme and also circling bright green things give me headache. (Also tested oakensoul HA nerf and it is still good for a casual and switching one of the sets make it even more powerful.)

thanks for that though. i could buy lots of things frompts crown store but not necrom or arcanist though i could buy the telvani and apocrapha skyshards...6 skill ponts in all...but not high isle or the others.. weird.

AScarlato · May 2023

ADarklore wrote: »

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

Ty all for clarifying. Right not a try B4 buy server but now I have no means by which to further consider the claims made in another thread about reasons why people chose to not buy it.

Well, take those negative comments with a grain of salt. We have a lot of bitter players who have not recovered from the Update 35 nerfs and balance changes, so anything short of reversing those they will complain about everything and anything ZOS tries to do.

Personally, I have tried PTS and having a blast with Arcanist. I am also looking forward to the new companions as well. Anything that adds more quests and especially new companions, and I'm all for it.

Or we have a roadmap with maybe 66 percent of the content we got in prior years (missing 2 dungeons and no additional zone this year) and unless you really like the new class or theme of the zone can just wait for a sale.

Some also didn’t like the new group-based overland system or had other issues. Unfortunately such feedback was deemed “nothing constructive” and the thread was closed.

Elsonso · May 2023

AScarlato wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

Ty all for clarifying. Right not a try B4 buy server but now I have no means by which to further consider the claims made in another thread about reasons why people chose to not buy it.

Well, take those negative comments with a grain of salt. We have a lot of bitter players who have not recovered from the Update 35 nerfs and balance changes, so anything short of reversing those they will complain about everything and anything ZOS tries to do.

Personally, I have tried PTS and having a blast with Arcanist. I am also looking forward to the new companions as well. Anything that adds more quests and especially new companions, and I'm all for it.

Or we have a roadmap with maybe 66 percent of the content we got in prior years (missing 2 dungeons and no additional zone this year) and unless you really like the new class or theme of the zone can just wait for a sale.

Some also didn’t like the new group-based overland system or had other issues. Unfortunately such feedback was deemed “nothing constructive” and the thread was closed.

Yup. I think that this year represents an overall rollback in terms of what customers are getting this year.

On top of that, it is clear that quality is not exactly at the top of the attention list. Some bugs have been around forever, unfixed. To make matters worse, they have a history of adding more with each update, and not all of them get fixed in a timely manner. The net is that their backlog of defects must be huge, and it feels like they don't have enough people to work on it.

As for the group overland event content, I felt that the Blackwood portals to the Atoll of Immolation were a hard miss. Unimpressive rewards and no indication from the outside if others are interested in the content. (Hint: they usually aren't) The new ideas that they have for Bastion Nymic seem to be an attempt to address problems with Blackwood. While it resolves the problem with not knowing if others are interested by having players group before entering, I expect that the added work to get in, and the typical lackluster loot for the effort, will probably shoot this one in the foot over the long term.

ADarklore · May 2023

AScarlato wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

Ty all for clarifying. Right not a try B4 buy server but now I have no means by which to further consider the claims made in another thread about reasons why people chose to not buy it.

Well, take those negative comments with a grain of salt. We have a lot of bitter players who have not recovered from the Update 35 nerfs and balance changes, so anything short of reversing those they will complain about everything and anything ZOS tries to do.

Personally, I have tried PTS and having a blast with Arcanist. I am also looking forward to the new companions as well. Anything that adds more quests and especially new companions, and I'm all for it.

Or we have a roadmap with maybe 66 percent of the content we got in prior years (missing 2 dungeons and no additional zone this year) and unless you really like the new class or theme of the zone can just wait for a sale.

Some also didn’t like the new group-based overland system or had other issues. Unfortunately such feedback was deemed “nothing constructive” and the thread was closed.

It's interesting because we've had tons of threads saying that people would be willing to go without a quarterly DLC if ZOS would just focus on bug fixes and QoL additions. This is what they're planning this year, and now people are complaining of lack of content already. ZOS just cannot win.

YetAnotherLinuxUser · May 2023

ADarklore wrote: »

AScarlato wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

Ty all for clarifying. Right not a try B4 buy server but now I have no means by which to further consider the claims made in another thread about reasons why people chose to not buy it.

Well, take those negative comments with a grain of salt. We have a lot of bitter players who have not recovered from the Update 35 nerfs and balance changes, so anything short of reversing those they will complain about everything and anything ZOS tries to do.

Personally, I have tried PTS and having a blast with Arcanist. I am also looking forward to the new companions as well. Anything that adds more quests and especially new companions, and I'm all for it.

Or we have a roadmap with maybe 66 percent of the content we got in prior years (missing 2 dungeons and no additional zone this year) and unless you really like the new class or theme of the zone can just wait for a sale.

Some also didn’t like the new group-based overland system or had other issues. Unfortunately such feedback was deemed “nothing constructive” and the thread was closed.

It's interesting because we've had tons of threads saying that people would be willing to go without a quarterly DLC if ZOS would just focus on bug fixes and QoL additions. This is what they're planning this year, and now people are complaining of lack of content already. ZOS just cannot win.

I'm not concerned with lack of content this year, if they do in fact address the many bugs in the game instead. My only desire was to test and see if necrom really was as bad as peple claimed in my other thread but access was closed down b4 i got around to looking. Bad timing on my part and not understanding they would close it. I hope the bugs get fixed. They need to fix them bugs more than we need another buggy chapter filled with more buggy dungeons that bug everyone to death. I appreciate their willingness to stop, take a breath and regroup before moving forward again. Hopefully what follows next year will be way better than 'high' isle... and necrom. Wish i had taken the time to look. I only just got a 2nd nvme drive for my machine so that i could have the space to put pts on my machine. I just didnt/couldnt move fast enough, unaware of the time limit that existed. Oh well.

Grizzbeorn · May 2023

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

now I have no means by which to further consider the claims made in another thread about reasons why people chose to not buy it.

You had 27 days prior to it being locked for access-testing.

Kendaric · May 2023

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

I'm not concerned with lack of content this year, if they do in fact address the many bugs in the game instead. My only desire was to test and see if necrom really was as bad as peple claimed in my other thread but access was closed down b4 i got around to looking. Bad timing on my part and not understanding they would close it. I hope the bugs get fixed. They need to fix them bugs more than we need another buggy chapter filled with more buggy dungeons that bug everyone to death. I appreciate their willingness to stop, take a breath and regroup before moving forward again. Hopefully what follows next year will be way better than 'high' isle... and necrom. Wish i had taken the time to look. I only just got a 2nd nvme drive for my machine so that i could have the space to put pts on my machine. I just didnt/couldnt move fast enough, unaware of the time limit that existed. Oh well.

It's not that Necrom is bad, it just doesn't offer enough things that interest me.

It's definitely better than High Isle, though admittedly it would be difficult to be worse.

Elsonso · May 2023

ADarklore wrote: »

AScarlato wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

Ty all for clarifying. Right not a try B4 buy server but now I have no means by which to further consider the claims made in another thread about reasons why people chose to not buy it.

Well, take those negative comments with a grain of salt. We have a lot of bitter players who have not recovered from the Update 35 nerfs and balance changes, so anything short of reversing those they will complain about everything and anything ZOS tries to do.

Personally, I have tried PTS and having a blast with Arcanist. I am also looking forward to the new companions as well. Anything that adds more quests and especially new companions, and I'm all for it.

Or we have a roadmap with maybe 66 percent of the content we got in prior years (missing 2 dungeons and no additional zone this year) and unless you really like the new class or theme of the zone can just wait for a sale.

Some also didn’t like the new group-based overland system or had other issues. Unfortunately such feedback was deemed “nothing constructive” and the thread was closed.

It's interesting because we've had tons of threads saying that people would be willing to go without a quarterly DLC if ZOS would just focus on bug fixes and QoL additions. This is what they're planning this year, and now people are complaining of lack of content already. ZOS just cannot win.

We had "tons" saying that ZOS should have been fixing bugs along with delivering new content at the same time, and that they should not stop delivering content.

Content sells. Bug fixes don't. We will see how successful this year is at reducing bugs.

ZOS_Icy · May 2023

Greetings,

After further review we have decided to move this thread to a category we think is more appropriate for this topic.

Thank you for your understanding.

AScarlato · May 2023

ADarklore wrote: »

AScarlato wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

Ty all for clarifying. Right not a try B4 buy server but now I have no means by which to further consider the claims made in another thread about reasons why people chose to not buy it.

Well, take those negative comments with a grain of salt. We have a lot of bitter players who have not recovered from the Update 35 nerfs and balance changes, so anything short of reversing those they will complain about everything and anything ZOS tries to do.

Personally, I have tried PTS and having a blast with Arcanist. I am also looking forward to the new companions as well. Anything that adds more quests and especially new companions, and I'm all for it.

Or we have a roadmap with maybe 66 percent of the content we got in prior years (missing 2 dungeons and no additional zone this year) and unless you really like the new class or theme of the zone can just wait for a sale.

Some also didn’t like the new group-based overland system or had other issues. Unfortunately such feedback was deemed “nothing constructive” and the thread was closed.

It's interesting because we've had tons of threads saying that people would be willing to go without a quarterly DLC if ZOS would just focus on bug fixes and QoL additions. This is what they're planning this year, and now people are complaining of lack of content already. ZOS just cannot win.

Different posters have different points of view. Competent coding should be a basic feature of an mmo that I expect along with content. Let’s see how people feel in 4 months when there is no content and they are done with the expansion.

If a game is in a state that you have people celebrating no content but a quarter of bug fixes, something went very wrong.

Kelinmiriel · May 2023

Creating a max level template character opens up access to Necrom on the PTS.

YetAnotherLinuxUser · May 2023

Kelinmiriel wrote: »

Creating a max level template character opens up access to Necrom on the PTS.

so it does. and it gives you access to the quest. it wont let you play arcanist though. even after playting and saving and going back to create another arcanist is still off limits

IxSTALKERxI · May 2023

Luke_Flamesword wrote: »

It was locked just today to test access levels. You had couple weeks before, now it's too late...

RIP... i only just found out yesterday that there was a new class being added to eso and just finsihed downloading the pts to see it [snip]

[edited for profanity bypass]

JanTanhide · May 2023

Well that's interesting. I just saw this thread so figured I would try the PTS. I have NOT purchased the Necrom chapter.

I got in with no issues at all. Created a CP 3600 Archanist and have access to the entire Telvani area. NA PC.

I'm logged in now as I post this. So, I have no idea why others cannot get in.

LOL. Just ported into the new Trial and got one shotted. Never set the character up with a single skill or armour or anything. But yeah, I can go everywhere.

JanTanhide · May 2023

YetAnotherLinuxUser wrote: »

Kelinmiriel wrote: »

Creating a max level template character opens up access to Necrom on the PTS.

so it does. and it gives you access to the quest. it wont let you play arcanist though. even after playting and saving and going back to create another arcanist is still off limits

Well, I am on a CP 3600 Arcanist now. I did not pre purchase Necrom. I don't know why others are having issues with getting on the PTS and testing the Arcanist. Strange for sure.

YetAnotherLinuxUser · May 2023

That closed access to it this past tuesday

rpa · May 2023

I just logged and quickly visited Televanni peninsula with both my template Arcanist and my Oakensoul HA Sorc. So apparently they have restored access for people not having preordered/bought the chapter or its just a bug. Give it a try.
(They did disable access for non-purchasers to test access lock works. When they were done with testing makes sense they enable it again but access will probably not be available indefinitely.)

YetAnotherLinuxUser · May 2023