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SNIPE DESYNC (POST YOUR CLIPS!). FEEDBACK IS THE KEY TO A FIX
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ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭Syrusthevirus187 wrote: »@ZarkingFrued I get your frustration but it's pointless. An easy exploit is allowed to be abused by bad players but nothing ever changes.
You're right but I'm obligated to try every few months to get ZoS to fix their game before the remaining PvP players leave0 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭SmukkeHeks wrote: »Lets be honest. Isn’t snipe really just a l2p/gitgud kind of issue?
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It would be if it wasn't glitched. No one is against it being available, they're against the lack of animation, sound, and shrinking of a healthbar on the player being attacked. This is like if a melee player was invisible and you couldn't see their damage hitting your healthbar . Sound fun? L2p?Edited by ZarkingFrued on February 18, 2020 6:17PM3 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭@ZarkingFrued
If you are as good as you say then you know a 1v1 with a ganker when you know whats coming is pointless and on most of today's builds you should win. Period. Hots mending vitality and protection are embedded in the new classes making them naturally tanky this isnt proc meta 2016.
So sick of the 1v1 argument concerning gankers its stupid.
Also I find it hard to believe you've never been in a fight where a sniper hand a hand in you dying thus you were outplayed but whatever bud.
One thing I can assure you that if you played on xbox I'd personally snipe you from melee not 30feet away just because you dont respect us
I'm sure there are a handful of people on here Including warbrain that have gotten that treatment from me when they play on other factions....
This desync got worse when zos tinkered with it a few months ago fix the desync dont ruin the skill!
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭wanting to make the bow unable to be used as a fair damage weapon seems to be the meta of this forum.
its unfair.
it is weapon and playstyle prejudice.
it is childish.
and it's just plain wrong.4 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭@ZarkingFrued
If you are as good as you say then you know a 1v1 with a ganker when you know whats coming is pointless and on most of today's builds you should win. Period. Hots mending vitality and protection are embedded in the new classes making them naturally tanky this isnt proc meta 2016.
So sick of the 1v1 argument concerning gankers its stupid.
Also I find it hard to believe you've never been in a fight where a sniper hand a hand in you dying thus you were outplayed but whatever bud.
One thing I can assure you that if you played on xbox I'd personally snipe you from melee not 30feet away just because you dont respect us
I'm sure there are a handful of people on here Including warbrain that have gotten that treatment from me when they play on other factions....
This desync got worse when zos tinkered with it a few months ago fix the desync dont ruin the skill!
Lol this isn't about 1v1 with gankers, this is about people abusing and exploiting a glitch to kill unaware players generally when they're in another fight. ZOS has put a lot of emphasis on counterplay lately, and defending a no counterplay build makes little sense. If you want ESO pvp respect then play something that requires a bit of skill rather than a glitch hide n go seek. There is Zero risk to glitch sniping, you always win when you gank, it's impossible to lose with the bug. Why would anyone be ok with that? You certainly wouldn't be able to kill me on your snipe build in a duel regardless because it only works on people who are unaware. I keep detect pots slotted for people who are afraid to die in a video game. You're not outplaying anyone by hiding in a video game and hitting them with a ranged skill that hits harder than anything else while not showing that player anything on their side due to a glitch. That's called taking the easy route, and is a carry. The game is not balanced bud, so not everything you do is "outplaying" someone.
Outplayed: when your personal gaming skill allows you to beat someone in a game. Not when you and your buddies finally manage to kill one guy who has been obliterating your zerg. A player who Xv1's someone loses the instant they engage in the Xv1, always, it doesn't matter whos character dies, because that player has already admitted to themselves they need to outnumber people to win. Using a glitch to win, is an even bigger personal loss.
Enjoy.Edited by ZarkingFrued on February 18, 2020 7:53PM10 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭wanting to make the bow unable to be used as a fair damage weapon seems to be the meta of this forum.
its unfair.
it is weapon and playstyle prejudice.
it is childish.
and it's just plain wrong.
Nope please direct these comments to another thread, I do have threads about the topic you're discussing, but this is about a glitch.Edited by ZarkingFrued on February 18, 2020 7:51PM2 -
butterrum222✭✭✭During peak time, snipe can take up to 5 seconds to go off, this could be contributing to the de sync4 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »wanting to make the bow unable to be used as a fair damage weapon seems to be the meta of this forum.
its unfair.
it is weapon and playstyle prejudice.
it is childish.
and it's just plain wrong.
Nope please direct these comments to another thread, I do have threads about the topic you're discussing, but this is about a glitch.
even if you tell me "nope" and insult my feedback.
my comment and feedback stands.
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ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭butterrum222 wrote: »During peak time, snipe can take up to 5 seconds to go off, this could be contributing to the de sync
It could be. Butterum is a sniper guys, see this player sniping all the time, but he also isn't here defending a glitch.. player has honor. Instead the player is commenting to point out some possible issues because they don't need a glitch carry to get their combo right.1 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »wanting to make the bow unable to be used as a fair damage weapon seems to be the meta of this forum.
its unfair.
it is weapon and playstyle prejudice.
it is childish.
and it's just plain wrong.
Nope please direct these comments to another thread, I do have threads about the topic you're discussing, but this is about a glitch.
even if you tell me "nope" and insult my feedback.
my comment and feedback stands.
Well you're feedback is irrelevant to the topic, and that still stands. Do you have anything to contribute to the topic of the glitch? Sorry you feel insulted, I certainly didn't insult you at all. I just asked you to please remain relevant to the topic at hand.Edited by ZarkingFrued on February 18, 2020 7:57PM6 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭it is impossible to make snipe glitch out.
as was now said multiple times in this thread.
it is caused by "LAGG" alone, nothing more.
AND it happens to all the skills in the game not just bow damage abilities like snipe.1 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭it is impossible to make snipe glitch out.
as was now said multiple times in this thread.
it is caused by "LAGG" alone, nothing more.
AND it happens to all the skills in the game not just bow damage abilities like snipe.
Interesting, how were you able to come by this knowledge? Are you a coder and developer for the Elder Scrolls Online? Can you please explain how they fixed the Bow Ult desync and multiple other skills desync but didn't fix lag? Also real weird how no one, literally no one complains about other skills desyncing your health now. Just snipe. Real odd.Edited by ZarkingFrued on February 18, 2020 8:05PM7 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »butterrum222 wrote: »During peak time, snipe can take up to 5 seconds to go off, this could be contributing to the de sync
It could be. Butterum is a sniper guys, see this player sniping all the time, but he also isn't here defending a glitch.. player has honor. Instead the player is commenting to point out some possible issues because they don't need a glitch carry to get their combo right.
K well if you had read the entire thread and others on this topic you'd see I also agreed.
Not sure why you said if you want respect comment....
Also like to point out i also play alottttt. I have a sniper blade main the other 4 or 5 chars are mag not a nb and are playing without a bow so they "cant play hide and seek with snipe"
I understand the issue at hand quite well .
It's the egos and trying to get it nerfed that I take issue with..
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Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭it is impossible to make snipe glitch out.
as was now said multiple times in this thread.
it is caused by "LAGG" alone, nothing more.
AND it happens to all the skills in the game not just bow damage abilities like snipe.
Are you serious?
Of cause lag impacts everything, but Snipe is notorious for this. Riding your horse one minute, reading a death recap the next then hear the sound and 3-4 impossible hits
If that's not happened to you on the regular you aren't in PvP enough to comment
ZOS even acknowledged it last year. When I can be bothered I'll find the referenceXbox One | EU | EP
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NordSwordnBoard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The video in post #12 even shows the mag and stam drop to zero (the real TOD) almost 3 seconds before the health does. I don't want the skill ruined, just fixed with regards to the obvious server/client timing problems.
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ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »butterrum222 wrote: »During peak time, snipe can take up to 5 seconds to go off, this could be contributing to the de sync
It could be. Butterum is a sniper guys, see this player sniping all the time, but he also isn't here defending a glitch.. player has honor. Instead the player is commenting to point out some possible issues because they don't need a glitch carry to get their combo right.
K well if you had read the entire thread and others on this topic you'd see I also agreed.
Not sure why you said if you want respect comment....
Also like to point out i also play alottttt. I have a sniper blade main the other 4 or 5 chars are mag not a nb and are playing without a bow so they "cant play hide and seek with snipe"
I understand the issue at hand quite well .
It's the egos and trying to get it nerfed that I take issue with..
Not LF a nerf, LF a fix. I can easily agree that this topic is one that gets on my nerves because it ruins a perfectly good game. I'll try to be more respectful1 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭KillsAllElves wrote: »ZarkingFrued wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »ZarkingFrued wrote: »Here come the snipe defenders, ever valiant to avoid their easy mode kills. Waiting for it. Oh wait. They're here already. Gonna act all pretentious and tell me that I don't understand cause they're all so intelligent that they play a game like ESO.
Except for the fact that most players are melee ranged builds and youre upset that snipers are ranged players that are not playing the way you want them to play.
[Snip]
IF you have a problem with the assassin playstyle and the class (NB) than you need to complain to the developer about your issue. Until then, the sniper assassin playstyle is working per developers discretion. And snipers have the same amount of privilage to play this video game as the melee ranged player has!
[Edited to remove bait]
The real issue here is that you feel like no in PvP gives one ounce of credit to your playstyle, and you're right. 100% right. No one finds your playstyle valid but the people who do the same thing. It's the only playstyle in game that gets that treatment. That's ok tho. Validate yourself instead of having a breakdown on my forum thread. THE SKILL IS GLITCHED. THE SKILL IS GLITCHED. THE. SKILL. IS. GLITCHED. We're not here to discuss one individuals insecurities. We're here to discuss a glitch. Lol.
Lol youre clearly upset an assassin out played you
Reading your comments i can tell youre going to get your thread locked. Repetitively typing the same statement in caps doesnt help your position nor is the skill "glitched".
You got killed by a sniper get over it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl-n9WwNlko
Your enemy is supposed to hear the bow string's sound as soon as the arrow is shot.Not to mention the 1 second cast time between snipes AND their travel time in the air. But yes tell me more about how you ''outplayed'' your enemy.
This covers all my bases. Plenty of people will try to explain away this, but they can't in any relevant manner. I'll be posting clips as well as they come to me. This thread needs to stay alive, so I'll not be getting triggered and making a jerk of myself in it any longer.1 -
Syrusthevirus187✭✭✭✭it is impossible to make snipe glitch out.
as was now said multiple times in this thread.
it is caused by "LAGG" alone, nothing more.
AND it happens to all the skills in the game not just bow damage abilities like snipe.
This will make people think you never pvp.
No other skill hits you after you are already dead.0 -
xWarbrain✭✭✭✭✭I'm sure there are a handful of people on here Including warbrain that have gotten that treatment from me when they play on other factions....
Yep, nothing wrong with hitting me with Snipe. You can be invisible and hit me from stealth with your little gank burst. I put my controller down to grab a drink sometimes, take your shot.
They can increase the damage of Snipe for all I care. Just want it to work properly.XB1 NA
Your nerf suggestion is dumb. Learn to counter other players instead of having the game rebuilt to your ability level.0 -
MincVinyl✭✭✭✭✭I think you guys are confusing multiple bugs that are happening
1. The bug where snipe(any ability) appears to all stack in one hit(server desync)(we have all seen those times where you cast an ability, nothing happens, so you keep casting, and eventually everything goes off)
2. The live health desync bug, where server side calculations are incorrect and cause a player to die with health remaining
3. The PTS health desync bug, where server side calculations are incorrect and cause a player to not die with 0 health remaining
#1 will probably only be fixed when the amount of server side calculations are reduced
#2 and 3 are said to be fixed from sources I have heard from at zos (see link below)
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/512240/health-desync-bug-100-mitigation-bug-and-random-heal-after-stun-ghost-heal-bug#latestStill clappin cheeks on a Bosmer Stamsorc in 20204 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭Syrusthevirus187 wrote: »it is impossible to make snipe glitch out.
as was now said multiple times in this thread.
it is caused by "LAGG" alone, nothing more.
AND it happens to all the skills in the game not just bow damage abilities like snipe.
This will make people think you never pvp.
No other skill hits you after you are already dead.
Sorc curse would like a word with you ...
That ish hits me after I respawn lmao
The video is evidence enough no bow noise no chance for the opponent.Edited by jadarock on February 18, 2020 9:23PM2 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭I'm sure there are a handful of people on here Including warbrain that have gotten that treatment from me when they play on other factions....
Yep, nothing wrong with hitting me with Snipe. You can be invisible and hit me from stealth with your little gank burst. I put my controller down to grab a drink sometimes, take your shot.
They can increase the damage of Snipe for all I care. Just want it to work properly.
To be fair pay to play classes are strong and youre a good player on top of it but after working with you against blappin we both know what you said above is not true bud
Edited by jadarock on February 18, 2020 10:13PM0 -
KillsAllElves✭✭✭✭✭
The last snipe or what ever ability hits the player becomes the desync. When the player is dead....This has become derailed with people talking about "playstyle" and opinions that have NOTHING to do with OP.
@KillsAllElves you are correct in that not every snipe is a desync. Its just most of the Snipes. No one cares about actual Snipe. The issue is with the skill being BROKEN. No one cares that its not your fault, that its on the server side, that it looks like a properly functioning skill on your end. You don't need to defend it or yourselves.
This isn't about liking the skill or not. This isn't about being a really, really, really, skilled Nightblade or being able to outplay anyone. Its not about other players needing to learn to defend themselves better. Its not about preferring another skill, playstyle, class or other type of content in the game. It has NOTHING to do with "git gud" or L2P.
ITS ABOUT THE SKILL NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. IT IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY ZOS.
If my Deep Fissure hit you three times before making a sound or showing any animation whatsoever, you'd have no shot of surviving. That would be the exact same thing that is happening with Snipe. I'd look pretty stupid if I told you that you were "outplayed" after that.
And yes this a "i hate the ranged playstyle thread"1 -
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✭✭Never seen this glitch happen with any other skill than Snipe. Doesnt only happen during high latency either. I can tell because I have a habit of weapon swapping while riding to check for ping because I dont trust the latency meter
Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wuduqv00Fo
around 06:45 on the second video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyC0J6zySlU
and the last video is from 2 years ago. So many people got carried by this for so long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smAyK2bbNo
November 25/2017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0smAyK2bbNo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ghLaazdXc Edited by Ankael07 on February 18, 2020 11:02PMIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.4 -
ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭Never seen this glitch happen with any other skill than Snipe. Doesnt only happen during high latency either. I can tell because I have a habit of weapon swapping while riding to check for ping because I dont trust the latency meter
Edit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wuduqv00Fo
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✭Sometimes its as if Snipe deals its damage before the arrow hits you. I have been hit many times with snipe spam where all snipes hit within 1-2s.PS NA
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https://youtu.be/dUt1cNMWMco
Isn’t the Focused Aim resistance debuff meant to show as a golden light over you?
Also in the first clip you can see the 3 arrows in the air before they hit.Edited by LeHarrt91 on February 18, 2020 11:20PMPS NA
Have played all classes.
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