Waiting On Nerf For Fear ..

mmolegends44 · August 2016

The funny part is I bet all people that will comment are nightblades and going to say fear is not op let me hear this.

mdylan2013 · August 2016

Personally I feel like fear should be a defensive ability rather than an offensive one. Anyone 'feared' should take less damage whilst they are in that incapacitated state, or it should be broken once they take damage... A bit like other abilities that have the same effect as fear.

Lord_Eomer · August 2016

If they nerf fear then Night blades will be destroyed @ pvp

BohnT · August 2016

Why would you do this? Are you a magicka player who couldn't break free because you had no stamina? That's too bad the skill is broken because your resource management failed. Or are you a magplar that simply holds block and spams BoL and then you got CCd and died?
The skill is fine as it is. Its just another CC to deal with and it's the only reliable for Nightblades.

Firerock2 · August 2016

BohnT wrote: »

Why would you do this?

Probably because the skill's animation lags and it doesn't properly show your being cc'd. By the time you do break free the nightblade has already done their combo. I also experience unbreakable cc with fear more than most other forms of cc. I'd say that's broken.

DHale · August 2016

So they are going to make changes to an ability that has been in game for 2 years and 4 months? Because you are troubled by it? Hhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaa... NO!

BohnT · August 2016

Firerock2 wrote: »

Probably because the skill's animation lags and it doesn't properly show your being cc'd. I'd say that's broken.

then it's not the fault of fear if lag kicks in. Normally you see the animation and the CC easily. You could also activate battletext but that would be too hard i guess

Firerock2 · August 2016

BohnT wrote: »

Firerock2 wrote: »

Probably because the skill's animation lags and it doesn't properly show your being cc'd. I'd say that's broken.

then it's not the fault of fear if lag kicks in. Normally you see the animation and the CC easily. You could also activate battletext but that would be too hard i guess

It's the skill itself that lags, you can't break out of it for the first second. Keep denying how broken it is though

Bashev · August 2016

Fear CC should break on damage.

BohnT · August 2016

Yea because i don't have any problems to break free immediatly after i get feared. Most of your complains are about lag and you just died because of it but it's the fault of a skill and not the problem with lag.

Firerock2 · August 2016

BohnT wrote: »

Yea because i don't have any problems to break free immediatly after i get feared. Most of your complains are about lag and you just died because of it but it's the fault of a skill and not the problem with lag.

I'm glad that you, a nightblade with no bias at all, have no problem with the skill. As I have said before though its the skill that is unbreakable for the first second, I'm not sure if it happens every time but it happens enough to be pretty god damn clear that its the skill that is the problem.

BohnT · August 2016

Yes i have a nightblade but my dk and my templar don't have a problem with that skill either. Just use break free and you'll be free.

WillhelmBlack · August 2016

DHale wrote: »

So they are going to make changes to an ability that has been in game for 2 years and 4 months? Because you are troubled by it? Hhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaaa... NO!

Everyone has been troubled by it for 2 years 4 months because that's how broken it is. You'll find a thread for every month if you search the forums.

It's the same delayed animation as vampire drain, which is also broken and if it's laggy and you get either of these CC's you may aswell put your controller/mouse down and go afk.

Although the 2 CC's are the same it's Fear which is the most deadly. People claiming L2P and other BS clearly have never been Feared, heavy, incapped before. That's insta-death, I've experienced a handful of tanky players that have survived that combo on my Stamblade but they were pure tanks.

BohnT · August 2016

It is easy to survive this combination if you build your class right. Just make sure that you have enough stam to break free and do a role dodge immediatly after that and most of these 1 Shot builds have a problem. Why do you complain about things you don't even try to do anything about. The game changes you. You don't change the game because something doesn't work like you would favour it

WillhelmBlack · August 2016

Firerock2 wrote: »

BohnT wrote: »

Firerock2 wrote: »

Probably because the skill's animation lags and it doesn't properly show your being cc'd. I'd say that's broken.

then it's not the fault of fear if lag kicks in. Normally you see the animation and the CC easily. You could also activate battletext but that would be too hard i guess

It's the skill itself that lags, you can't break out of it for the first second. Keep denying how broken it is though

I genuinely just think people that say Fear isn't broken are terrible PvP'ers and i bet they've never broke any CC in under a second.

FYI it's not skill lag, it's a deliberate pause of CC break so the skill can be identified. Then you're allowed to break free lol. 1 CC, 3 stages of animation, you're only allowed to break free in the 3rd animation which is the hands on head part. Obviously well designed and 100% fair in the PvP portion of this game /sarcasm.

WillhelmBlack · August 2016

BohnT wrote: »

It is easy to survive this combination if you build your class right. Just make sure that you have enough stam to break free and do a role dodge immediatly after that and most of these 1 Shot builds have a problem. Why do you complain about things you don't even try to do anything about. The game changes you. You don't change the game because something doesn't work like you would favour it

It's clear that you have never been hit hard by a Stamblade. In less than a second mine can hit you with 30K damage that you are completely unable to do anything about because you are stuck in an animation. It's no worse than that dirty tactic you can do ganking people using doors in IC.

dsalter · August 2016

easy way to balance fear is... give 30% speed buff while feared. i mean frightened people dont walk slow am i right? they RUN.
throw in a major damage intake reduction buff ontop of it and fear can stay how it is but will be more defence than offence since after all, fear breaks block, is one of the most annoying CC to break from and even MOVES you.

Johngo0036 · August 2016

@mdylan2013 - There is an armour set that gives you this,

If you feel so much about it go get the set,

I play all classes and yes i HATE being feared....
but not as much as i hate being SNARED in this game,

Snares are more broken than FEAR yet you complain about fear....

BohnT · August 2016

I'm pretty sure you can't hit me with 30k. Those mighty impen pieces... only way that one can easily gank me is if I'm using a siege other than that most of the gankers aren't able to kill me in under 5 seconds and this is their death sentence most of the time

mdylan2013 · August 2016

Johngo0036 wrote: »

@mdylan2013 - There is an armour set that gives you this,

If you feel so much about it go get the set,

I play all classes and yes i HATE being feared....
but not as much as i hate being SNARED in this game,

Snares are more broken than FEAR yet you complain about fear....

I should put on a whole armour set to counter it? Lol.

If you're snared at least you can fight back, fear disables that.

Johngo0036 · August 2016

so does incapstrike, dawnbreaker, Templar spear, etc...

Any knock down if you dont break it you will die,
Its the same with FEAR.....

Having said that i do believe there are issues with CC and Lag, of maybe just bad code......
Sometimes its like i cannot break fear,

Also when you are hit by a bunch of people you and rooted you cannot see that you have also been feared...

CC immunity would also be nice, I do remember the days when it actually worked...

ragespell · August 2016

BohnT wrote: »

Why would you do this? Are you a magicka player who couldn't break free because you had no stamina? That's too bad the skill is broken because your resource management failed. Or are you a magplar that simply holds block and spams BoL and then you got CCd and died?
The skill is fine as it is. Its just another CC to deal with and it's the only reliable for Nightblades.

This is what I don't understand. Why should I have to compromise if I want to play magicka?

People could go full stamina, and have it all (great damage, great avoidance, even a great heal, etc).
But one can't go full magicka.
Magicka already do less damage, but if you want to survive you have to lower your dps even more because you "need" stamina.

Maybe I am wrong, maybe this game is a "melee combat simulator" with some magic added too it.

BalticBlues · August 2016

I dislike the entire fear concept.

We build warriors defeating Molag Bal
but wetting their pants because of a single NightBlade?
Even wetting their pants again and again from it?

Whoever came up with the Fear concept should hide under his desk.

Ch4mpTW · August 2016

To be honest, I've been waiting for a "fix" of sorts or "reevaluation" of that particular Nightblade skill for quite some time. I've made numerous posts about it, but my opinions on said things were just ignored time and time again. It's interesting to see just how many people are starting to notice things about the Nightblade class that appear to be "too strong" more and more. I wonder how many complaints it'll take, before the combat team of ESO realizes these things. Then takes them into consideration.

Tormy · August 2016

Sounds like a L2P issue honestly

Burning_Talons · August 2016

Ive been said it should break on DMG likd every other Hard CC and fear is aoe

Hurika · August 2016

I only use fear as a counter to people that spam shields or have glued their block button down on their keyboard. If they are not doing one of those 2 things just attack and do dmg. Fear is an effective counter and that's about it. If you fear any good player they break free fast enough you have a 50/50 chance of hitting them before they break free.

vamp_emily · August 2016

I think it is crazy how people say stuff like NBs are 'too strong'. I've played stam and mag NBs most the time, but my Mag Templar is a beast compared to the NB. I've only played a Sorc a few levels but they seem stronger than NBs and Templars.

I really like fear, cloak and shadow image; those skills make the class so much fun to play.

QuebraRegra · August 2016

mdylan2013 wrote: »

Personally I feel like fear should be a defensive ability rather than an offensive one. Anyone 'feared' should take less damage whilst they are in that incapacitated state, or it should be broken once they take damage... A bit like other abilities that have the same effect as fear.

Hmm, I like the idea of defensive usage... FEAR to escape. I'd want previous DOTs to be canceled on FEAR cast tho.

Nermy · August 2016

Can we just go the whole hog and get rid of all CCs because, well... they just hold me back man. I can't get on with the serious business of, you know, killing stuff. Really gets me down. Sooo down. I'm so down I can't even be bothered to post about it...

DRXHarbinger · August 2016

Or at least make us sprint in fear. So we can't be chopped down whilst break free isn't working.