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PvP justice system in 2.0.1
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerWe can confirm that is not happening today.Gina Bruno
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Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭BugCollector wrote: »Any confirmation on this?
We are getting no new content till after June, pal. Abandon all hope.5 -
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✭yea the game will be the same content until they decide to start releasing all that stuff they had been working on for quakecon that we have YET to see.....2 -
Attorneyatlawl✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that is not happening today.
But it's still planned to be happening at all?
I've heard conflicting chatter in the community as to that in general, even though I've yet to find an official comment saying it isn't coming still. Edited by Attorneyatlawl on March 16, 2015 3:33PM-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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-In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.0 -
I'd be happy if they could just fix all the existing bugs and server issues... There's lots of content, but the bugs and server issues are enough to drive anyone crazy.1 -
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/concur-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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-In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.0 -
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✭The community should really start learning to accept that neither the removal of Veteran Ranks, nor the addition of the PvP element of the Justice System, will ever actually occur.
It's not happening. Best to just accept that.1 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd be happy if they could just fix all the existing bugs and server issues... There's lots of content, but the bugs and server issues are enough to drive anyone crazy.
How long have you been playing for? Cause those of us playing for almost a year have absolutely no content to explore right now...1 -
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✭✭✭Kingdinguhling wrote: »they need to really get rid of veteran ranks fast
Why? They're the same thing as normal levels, nowadays, since the veteran level areas were nerfed ages and ages ago to be just as easy to kill in and finish anything you desire as the normal areas are (effortless).-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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-In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.0 -
ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Kingdinguhling wrote: »they need to really get rid of veteran ranks fast
Why? They're the same thing as normal levels, nowadays, since the veteran level areas were nerfed ages and ages ago to be just as easy to kill in and finish anything you desire as the normal areas are (effortless).
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phreatophile✭✭✭✭✭
✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Kingdinguhling wrote: »they need to really get rid of veteran ranks fast
Why? They're the same thing as normal levels, nowadays, since the veteran level areas were nerfed ages and ages ago to be just as easy to kill in and finish anything you desire as the normal areas are (effortless).
*facepalm*
LOL. He's right. VR content is about 25% of the difficulty it used to be and requires only a fraction of the XP that it used to. They could change VR14 to lvl 64 tomorrow and it wouldn't change a thing. At the beginning, even with a good build you had to be carefull of packs of mobs above 3, 4 enemies meant you checked your Ultimate, if it was up it was worth a try.2 -
Grao✭✭✭✭✭
✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Kingdinguhling wrote: »they need to really get rid of veteran ranks fast
Why? They're the same thing as normal levels, nowadays, since the veteran level areas were nerfed ages and ages ago to be just as easy to kill in and finish anything you desire as the normal areas are (effortless).
They need to remove the veteran system because layering a rotten cake with with sugar doesn't stop the cake from being rotten. The Champion System is not compatible with the Veteran Ranking, having one layered on top of the other is causing serious balance issues and concerns.
Besides that little detail, the veteran ranks need to go because ZoS said they were being retired. Yet now Console will be released with the veteran system, so people will have to level through ranks they know will be taken away in a month or two. It is brilliant...3 -
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✭@ZOS_GinaBruno can you confirm if my dwemer style rocket launcher will be included in this patch?
Meanwhile I await the addition of the pvp justice system, but know it will be a bit of a process to get there, and expect it will be on the PTS first
Edited by HeroOfNone on March 16, 2015 4:07PM1 -
ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭phreatophile wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Kingdinguhling wrote: »they need to really get rid of veteran ranks fast
Why? They're the same thing as normal levels, nowadays, since the veteran level areas were nerfed ages and ages ago to be just as easy to kill in and finish anything you desire as the normal areas are (effortless).
*facepalm*
LOL. He's right. VR content is about 25% of the difficulty it used to be and requires only a fraction of the XP that it used to. They could change VR14 to lvl 64 tomorrow and it wouldn't change a thing. At the beginning, even with a good build you had to be carefull of packs of mobs above 3, 4 enemies meant you checked your Ultimate, if it was up it was worth a try.
*facepalm*
It's not about difficulty. Try again.1 -
Attorneyatlawl✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Kingdinguhling wrote: »they need to really get rid of veteran ranks fast
Why? They're the same thing as normal levels, nowadays, since the veteran level areas were nerfed ages and ages ago to be just as easy to kill in and finish anything you desire as the normal areas are (effortless).
They need to remove the veteran system because layering a rotten cake with with sugar doesn't stop the cake from being rotten. The Champion System is not compatible with the Veteran Ranking, having one layered on top of the other is causing serious balance issues and concerns.
Besides that little detail, the veteran ranks need to go because ZoS said they were being retired. Yet now Console will be released with the veteran system, so people will have to level through ranks they know will be taken away in a month or two. It is brilliant...phreatophile wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Kingdinguhling wrote: »they need to really get rid of veteran ranks fast
Why? They're the same thing as normal levels, nowadays, since the veteran level areas were nerfed ages and ages ago to be just as easy to kill in and finish anything you desire as the normal areas are (effortless).
*facepalm*
LOL. He's right. VR content is about 25% of the difficulty it used to be and requires only a fraction of the XP that it used to. They could change VR14 to lvl 64 tomorrow and it wouldn't change a thing. At the beginning, even with a good build you had to be carefull of packs of mobs above 3, 4 enemies meant you checked your Ultimate, if it was up it was worth a try.
*facepalm*
It's not about difficulty. Try again.
Why don't you explain, then? Because simply labelling Veteran Rank 14 as "level 64" would be completely accurate. Are you saying you'd prefer that ZOS lowers the level cap? If so, what do you think that improves and what issues might it cause for players and their existing gear?Edited by Attorneyatlawl on March 16, 2015 4:39PM-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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Zershar_Vemod✭✭✭✭✭Don't expect new content for a long time OP.House Nyssara (NA)
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http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/148535/the-justice-system-seems-pretty-sound-i-cant-see-what-the-hold-up-would-be-for-the-pvp-portion#latestAttorneyatlawl wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that is not happening today.
But it's still planned to be happening at all? I've heard conflicting chatter in the community as to that in general, even though I've yet to find an official comment saying it isn't coming still.ZOS_MandiParker wrote: »PvE Justice was such a massive and fundamental alteration to the current game that we wanted to give players a chance to adjust to it first. We wanted to see what everybody enjoys or avoids before adding in any new toys.
Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I personally have no wish to see PvP ever added to the Justice System. Leave PvP out of the open world, and focus all PvP-related development time on getting Cyrodil right.3 -
Seraphyel✭✭✭✭✭Attorneyatlawl wrote: »Kingdinguhling wrote: »they need to really get rid of veteran ranks fast
Why? They're the same thing as normal levels, nowadays, since the veteran level areas were nerfed ages and ages ago to be just as easy to kill in and finish anything you desire as the normal areas are (effortless).
Because it's still the worst part of the game.
With VR this way the game will NEVER be great.0 -
cozmon3c_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I personally have no wish to see PvP ever added to the Justice System. Leave PvP out of the open world, and focus all PvP-related development time on getting Cyrodil right.
i disagree, pvp needs to be added to the justice system. it will give alternative content to pvper's who have not recieved new content since launch. Its also a great way to introduce the theives guild and dark brotherhood story lines into the game. tamriel will be more alive then ever, with people choosing the high road as enforcers or the lowly road of thieves/ assassins or the choice to turn off the system all together in the menu options.
there should be consequences to your actions, you can dupe npc's all day but players are the toughest boss to escape.Guild UMBRA Chapter Lead
~Leper Si -V14 Sorcerer~
Youtube Channel - Leper
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linoge63✭✭✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »I personally have no wish to see PvP ever added to the Justice System. Leave PvP out of the open world, and focus all PvP-related development time on getting Cyrodil right.
i disagree, pvp needs to be added to the justice system. it will give alternative content to pvper's who have not recieved new content since launch. Its also a great way to introduce the theives guild and dark brotherhood story lines into the game. tamriel will be more alive then ever, with people choosing the high road as enforcers or the lowly road of thieves/ assassins or the choice to turn off the system all together in the menu options.
there should be consequences to your actions, you can dupe npc's all day but players are the toughest boss to escape.
Even for me who at least till now have zero interest in pvp as it seems to manifest far too much whining and endless crying among the herd, this seems an interesting twist. If i steal something now and want to get paid for it, at my current level i can usually make it to the fence, but, if once i become wanted pvpers get some form of alert or im on the writ board etc...that brings more urgency...and would be more immersive. It might be cool to see a writ board functions as a hired killer advertisement that a PVE'er who got caught by the pvp justice could in turn use to pay to have that justice pvp player hunted down for a modest but worth while fee by the opponants of justice. yeah..im thinking aloud as a newbie..Edited by linoge63 on March 16, 2015 5:40PM1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »I personally have no wish to see PvP ever added to the Justice System. Leave PvP out of the open world, and focus all PvP-related development time on getting Cyrodil right.
i disagree, pvp needs to be added to the justice system. it will give alternative content to pvper's who have not recieved new content since launch. Its also a great way to introduce the theives guild and dark brotherhood story lines into the game. tamriel will be more alive then ever, with people choosing the high road as enforcers or the lowly road of thieves/ assassins or the choice to turn off the system all together in the menu options.
there should be consequences to your actions, you can dupe npc's all day but players are the toughest boss to escape.
Even for me who at least till now have zero interest in pvp as it seems to manifest far too much whining and endless crying among the herd, this seems an interesting twist. If i steal something now and want to get paid for it, at my current level i can usually make it to the fence, but, if once i become wanted pvpers get some form of alert or im on the writ board etc...that brings more urgency...and would be more immersive. It might be cool to see a writ board functions as a hired killer advertisement that a PVE'er who got caught by the pvp justice could in turn use to pay to have that justice pvp player hunted down for a modest but worth while fee by the opponants of justice. yeah..im thinking aloud as a newbie..
Good luck finding anything immersive in having a bunch of PvPer's camped outside the refuge!1 -
thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »I personally have no wish to see PvP ever added to the Justice System. Leave PvP out of the open world, and focus all PvP-related development time on getting Cyrodil right.
i disagree, pvp needs to be added to the justice system. it will give alternative content to pvper's who have not recieved new content since launch. Its also a great way to introduce the theives guild and dark brotherhood story lines into the game. tamriel will be more alive then ever, with people choosing the high road as enforcers or the lowly road of thieves/ assassins or the choice to turn off the system all together in the menu options.
there should be consequences to your actions, you can dupe npc's all day but players are the toughest boss to escape.
Even for me who at least till now have zero interest in pvp as it seems to manifest far too much whining and endless crying among the herd, this seems an interesting twist. If i steal something now and want to get paid for it, at my current level i can usually make it to the fence, but, if once i become wanted pvpers get some form of alert or im on the writ board etc...that brings more urgency...and would be more immersive. It might be cool to see a writ board functions as a hired killer advertisement that a PVE'er who got caught by the pvp justice could in turn use to pay to have that justice pvp player hunted down for a modest but worth while fee by the opponants of justice. yeah..im thinking aloud as a newbie..
Good luck finding anything immersive in having a bunch of PvPer's camped outside the refuge!
Or you go to an underpopulated vet zone and use one of those refuges.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »I personally have no wish to see PvP ever added to the Justice System. Leave PvP out of the open world, and focus all PvP-related development time on getting Cyrodil right.
i disagree, pvp needs to be added to the justice system. it will give alternative content to pvper's who have not recieved new content since launch. Its also a great way to introduce the theives guild and dark brotherhood story lines into the game. tamriel will be more alive then ever, with people choosing the high road as enforcers or the lowly road of thieves/ assassins or the choice to turn off the system all together in the menu options.
there should be consequences to your actions, you can dupe npc's all day but players are the toughest boss to escape.
Even for me who at least till now have zero interest in pvp as it seems to manifest far too much whining and endless crying among the herd, this seems an interesting twist. If i steal something now and want to get paid for it, at my current level i can usually make it to the fence, but, if once i become wanted pvpers get some form of alert or im on the writ board etc...that brings more urgency...and would be more immersive. It might be cool to see a writ board functions as a hired killer advertisement that a PVE'er who got caught by the pvp justice could in turn use to pay to have that justice pvp player hunted down for a modest but worth while fee by the opponants of justice. yeah..im thinking aloud as a newbie..
Good luck finding anything immersive in having a bunch of PvPer's camped outside the refuge!
Unless they can camp outside every refuge in every city, I think everyone will be just fine. And the previous demo footage for the PvP part of the system already showed that you would not instantly become killable after getting a bounty. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you'll need to be in a stage where PvE guards would attack you on sight before you'll be flagged.----
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✭✭✭✭✭thelordoffelines wrote: »cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »I personally have no wish to see PvP ever added to the Justice System. Leave PvP out of the open world, and focus all PvP-related development time on getting Cyrodil right.
i disagree, pvp needs to be added to the justice system. it will give alternative content to pvper's who have not recieved new content since launch. Its also a great way to introduce the theives guild and dark brotherhood story lines into the game. tamriel will be more alive then ever, with people choosing the high road as enforcers or the lowly road of thieves/ assassins or the choice to turn off the system all together in the menu options.
there should be consequences to your actions, you can dupe npc's all day but players are the toughest boss to escape.
Even for me who at least till now have zero interest in pvp as it seems to manifest far too much whining and endless crying among the herd, this seems an interesting twist. If i steal something now and want to get paid for it, at my current level i can usually make it to the fence, but, if once i become wanted pvpers get some form of alert or im on the writ board etc...that brings more urgency...and would be more immersive. It might be cool to see a writ board functions as a hired killer advertisement that a PVE'er who got caught by the pvp justice could in turn use to pay to have that justice pvp player hunted down for a modest but worth while fee by the opponants of justice. yeah..im thinking aloud as a newbie..
Good luck finding anything immersive in having a bunch of PvPer's camped outside the refuge!
Or you go to an underpopulated vet zone and use one of those refuges.
Fine if you're vet level.0 -
cozmon3c_ESO✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »I personally have no wish to see PvP ever added to the Justice System. Leave PvP out of the open world, and focus all PvP-related development time on getting Cyrodil right.
i disagree, pvp needs to be added to the justice system. it will give alternative content to pvper's who have not recieved new content since launch. Its also a great way to introduce the theives guild and dark brotherhood story lines into the game. tamriel will be more alive then ever, with people choosing the high road as enforcers or the lowly road of thieves/ assassins or the choice to turn off the system all together in the menu options.
there should be consequences to your actions, you can dupe npc's all day but players are the toughest boss to escape.
Even for me who at least till now have zero interest in pvp as it seems to manifest far too much whining and endless crying among the herd, this seems an interesting twist. If i steal something now and want to get paid for it, at my current level i can usually make it to the fence, but, if once i become wanted pvpers get some form of alert or im on the writ board etc...that brings more urgency...and would be more immersive. It might be cool to see a writ board functions as a hired killer advertisement that a PVE'er who got caught by the pvp justice could in turn use to pay to have that justice pvp player hunted down for a modest but worth while fee by the opponants of justice. yeah..im thinking aloud as a newbie..
Good luck finding anything immersive in having a bunch of PvPer's camped outside the refuge!
Unless they can camp outside every refuge in every city, I think everyone will be just fine. And the previous demo footage for the PvP part of the system already showed that you would not instantly become killable after getting a bounty. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you'll need to be in a stage where PvE guards would attack you on sight before you'll be flagged.
i believe this is the case or if you are witnessed doing a crime by an enforcer player. should be lots of fun, since if you put on your enforcer tabard you become flagged for being attacked, so its not a feild of roses for those who wish to stop thieves and murderers. the cities will be alive and have a more living feeling, and it adds and optional world pvp that hasnt been seen in any game i have ever played. it gives you a chance to meet new people in your alliance, find out who has the right stuff to fight in cyrodiil along side you.Guild UMBRA Chapter Lead
~Leper Si -V14 Sorcerer~
Youtube Channel - Leper
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Kypho✭✭✭✭cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »I personally have no wish to see PvP ever added to the Justice System. Leave PvP out of the open world, and focus all PvP-related development time on getting Cyrodil right.
i disagree, pvp needs to be added to the justice system. it will give alternative content to pvper's who have not recieved new content since launch. Its also a great way to introduce the theives guild and dark brotherhood story lines into the game. tamriel will be more alive then ever, with people choosing the high road as enforcers or the lowly road of thieves/ assassins or the choice to turn off the system all together in the menu options.
there should be consequences to your actions, you can dupe npc's all day but players are the toughest boss to escape.
Even for me who at least till now have zero interest in pvp as it seems to manifest far too much whining and endless crying among the herd, this seems an interesting twist. If i steal something now and want to get paid for it, at my current level i can usually make it to the fence, but, if once i become wanted pvpers get some form of alert or im on the writ board etc...that brings more urgency...and would be more immersive. It might be cool to see a writ board functions as a hired killer advertisement that a PVE'er who got caught by the pvp justice could in turn use to pay to have that justice pvp player hunted down for a modest but worth while fee by the opponants of justice. yeah..im thinking aloud as a newbie..
PvE is easy. AI doesnt have the brain of a fly. scripted attacks, no logic in their fight, you always know what will happen. In MMOs, they dont try to make AI clever they add DAMAGE and MORE HP and CC IMMUNITY..... thats all. Easy as hell. You meet an npc, you will know next time what he does, Players dont do the same.1
