Dislike that zerg-balling and AoE caps wasnt mentioned in this 'future plans' list.

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

A lot of these points should also be mentioned in the new combat threads We are aware of the crashing issues and the team of engineers are working on fixes for them as fast as they can. Also note we have a cap of the amount of players that can influence a flag at 6 players since launch but that could always be adjusted if the rate of capture is seemingly too fast/slow.

We're still collecting data about the populations in each of the campaigns (for the US and EU)and will make the decision to introduce a 6th Campaign or convert a current campaign in the future. This will hopefully go in conjunction with the campaign buffs conversion of only getting the buffs of the Campaign you're physically in while playing in Cyrodiil.

There have been discussions about Forward camps as well and currently we're leaning towards having "guild forward camps" where only guildmates can resurrect at a guild forward camp. This would be a new item entirely to go along with the forward camps already in the game. We're still working on getting this nailed down along with other forward camp issues that have lingered.

I forgot one more issue....

The targeting of people during a keep fight when on the walls of a keep. I don't know if you've done that..But every time i'm fighting on the walls of a keep, My target selection will get stuck on the keep wall, and I can't tab target out of it to another target. The only way to fix it, is to hit escape...

Please for the love of god fix that bug, as its annoying as hell.

Samadhi wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Samadhi wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Going to post my issues thread points in here since it'll be stickied

1. AOE caps still resulting in Mindless Zerg Balling in the game completely dumbing down any skill involved in PvP.

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AoE caps gotta go.

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

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6. Unbreakable Stuns, This is still an issue...I've not seen it with Invasion (Shield Charge) and Root after the patch, but i'm still noticing it with Ambush and Concealed Blade combo if they do it from stealth. I've had multiple times were i'm at full stamina spamming the break free key and nothing happens. I'm not sure if other abilities are doing it but if Ambush and Concealed blade still are i imagine other abilities are as well.

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Are you referring to Dual Wield Hidden Blade or to Nightblade Concealed Weapon here?
I'm presuming Hidden Blade, since it snares, but I'd just like to verify for clarification.

Concealed Weapon on nightblade.

They usually do Ambush followed by that from stealth it seems, But i'm usually stunned and can't break it no matter what I do.

Strange, I'm not sure what is causing it then.
I skip Ambush and open with Surprise Attack (the opposite morph from Concealed Weapon) instead; players seem to be able to break out of the stun fine, so something unusual has to be happening when the two are run in conjunction.

i think it has to do with Ambush from stealth followed by Concealed Weapon

1. Resources affecting Sieges. What I mean by this is varied. First off make each Resource Node provide a Bonus to the Keep, Mine vastly improves Wall HP on Keeps, Mills vastly improve Gate HP and Farms provide Buffs to NPC soldiers at the Keeps, and improve their re-spawn times possibly. Yes this already exsists. But it is currently meh. Also there are ways of having the players themselves reinforce the Keeps, which would also provide reasons for Claiming ownership. Give each Keep a REAL Upgrade Tree, that players can purchase with Gold/AP. Players can purchase upgrades to make the Keeps easier to defend, Faster Caravan Travel, NPC Caravan Guards, buffing those guards, Increased Siege Capacity for defenders, Upgraded Walls, Gates, Keep Guards, that would stack with the Resource Node boosts. Likewise these bonuses would take time to research and thus requiring effort on the Factions part to hold the Keep. This would create Strong points in Faction held areas that would make is harder for the other Factions to steamroll over Keeps. Have this upgrade system affected by a whole new system added. Supply Caravans. We have "Supply Lines" but they don't do much of anything except provide Teleport Access. Have physical Supply Caravans travel across the map, that your faction has to protect if you want Keeps to have "Resources" to purchase the Upgrades (in addition to the AP/Gold requirement). This would likely require moving each Keeps resource nodes further away from the Keeps, so Supplies can come from those. Enemy factions can raid these Caravans and claim the Resources for themselves, taking them back to their own Keeps for upgrades. Taking Keeps atm feel trivial a lot of the time imo. It should be a challenge, and an accomplishment, to claim an enemies Keep.

2. Different combat mechanics. What I mean by this, is different ways to play the game. Upgrades to the Alliance War skills lines. More abilities and such, like I believe DAoC had "Wall Climbing" or something along those lines, maybe make that an Ultimate. Thats just one example of ways to shake up Cyrodiil PVP. I am not as good at such suggestions so leave that to others.

3. Buff Keeps in general. Keeps are a joke atm, just flat out increase Wall and Gate HP by significant amounts. It's too easy to bypass resources and blow down Keep walls within minutes. This to me makes Keeps feel like tissue paper, and frankly they feel a bit pathetic.

3 diff things

Vortimere wrote: »

..., but consider making it a "PARTY forward camp" instead of a guild one. Our guild is pretty large and could likely take advantage of guild-only camps, but we occasionally pick up a few players from the local battlefield or from zone chat and it seems that if our "party" paid for a forward camp, then those in our party should be able to use it for the current engagement.....

This is what i dont want. With Guild-Forwardcamps the Guilds will load temporarily Players in there Guild. Or Mega-PvP-Guilds will form on the Servers to use the Forwardcamps. And then we have the same like now - no open-field-pvp or roaming between the keeps.

My Suggestion is: All Players must bind on a Forwardcamp by riding personaly to the camps and binding manualy on it. And the binding gets lost if the forwardcamp will be destroyed.

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Hey gang!

We wanted to give you all a heads up regarding what the Alliance War (PVP) team is looking into for the future, as well as what we’re currently working on for Cyrodiil. As a general reminder, the Alliance War team is responsible for all things Cyrodiil, the Imperial City, and the Campaign system as a whole, so this post will be centered on those topics.


-Wheeler

is there any possibility of a change to the stationary Gaurd NPC detection bug? The NPC's can pretty much be distracted so that they cannot attack other players
while they are locked on to a target that is out of their abilities range. I have seen this since I started playing in Cyrodill and this game mechanic can be exploited to take resources with a very small amount of people. Also it bugs sneak on their target, you have to run out of their large area range in order to sneak again, even though they cannot attack you since they must stand in place. Shouldn't the NPC drop it's detection once the target is out of its ability range, since it is stuck in position? It should be a pretty simple fix coding wise, might require a subclass if stationary NPC's are using the same class as non-stationary.

-Thanks
Nonamesbutmine

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

A lot of these points should also be mentioned in the new combat threads We are aware of the crashing issues and the team of engineers are working on fixes for them as fast as they can. Also note we have a cap of the amount of players that can influence a flag at 6 players since launch but that could always be adjusted if the rate of capture is seemingly too fast/slow.

We're still collecting data about the populations in each of the campaigns (for the US and EU)and will make the decision to introduce a 6th Campaign or convert a current campaign in the future. This will hopefully go in conjunction with the campaign buffs conversion of only getting the buffs of the Campaign you're physically in while playing in Cyrodiil.

There have been discussions about Forward camps as well and currently we're leaning towards having "guild forward camps" where only guildmates can resurrect at a guild forward camp. This would be a new item entirely to go along with the forward camps already in the game. We're still working on getting this nailed down along with other forward camp issues that have lingered.

Can you convert Bow of Shadows into a 10 or more day campaign so more vets would want to go to it? 5-day was apparently unattractive. The non-vet as well, and for that one the cyrodil NPCs should be more like lvl40 or so, not vet5.

More like in the very near future too. only a handful of people were good on 5 day duration.

I also believe that when the campaign resets the scoreboard, everything should just reset too, keep ownership and all. Give each go through a fresh start.

Currently unsubscribed by i am keeping a close eye on the pvp threads, i agree with alot of what people are saying, mindless zergs spamming AOE is not fun along with skill lag and crashes, are there any timescales when you are bringing any smaller scale pvp into the game such as battlegrounds and competative arena play were there is actually skill involved? It will win alot of subscribers back just throwing that out there

The mass pvp is fun and was brillaint at the beginning but its broken we deserve something for the time being while we wait for you to fix issues.

Pixysticks wrote: »

Immovable shouldn't be in the game, period. Or if it is, it needs a 1-2 minute cooldown. An ability that makes you immune to every possible CC in the game, including silence, and can be permanently kept on, is ridiculous.

It needs to be restricted to full Heavy Armor wearers.

@ZOS_Brianwheeler Mindless zergs spamming AOE is not fun , are there any timescales when you are bringing any smaller scale pvp into the game such as battlegrounds and competative arena play were there is actually skill involved? It will win alot of subscribers back just throwing that out there

The mass pvp is fun and was brillaint at the beginning but its broken we deserve something for the time being while we wait for you to fix issues.

Sasky wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

5. Keep Walls basically being nothing more then wet paper tissue in this game.

The buffs from resources are supposed to make this a calculated gamble, but more and more that's not the case. Even if you double wall HP, it's not much. Short of having spotters, the first warning you have it's too late to teleport in. If a keep has the resources, a warning should go out before it's 50% wall strength and/or teleports and respawns should be able to get in later.

Example (large swings to illustrate - obviously could be tuned down a bit):
3 resources - keep under attack at 90%, teleport/respawn stops at 30%
2 resources - keep under attack at 90%, teleport/respawn stops at 50%
1 resource - keep under attack at 70%, teleport/respawn stops at 50%
0 resources - keep under attack at 50%, respawn stops at 50%

You can still do a blitz tactic bypassing the resources, as it's still only a couple minutes to take a wall down with full siege, but you pay more of a penalty for not stopping supply lines.

^^^This.... I love this idea. the numbers could be tweaked greatly. hopefully they will implement this on the PTS for update 4. super cool to test this out.

slavicgrip wrote: »

Sasky wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

5. Keep Walls basically being nothing more then wet paper tissue in this game.

The buffs from resources are supposed to make this a calculated gamble, but more and more that's not the case. Even if you double wall HP, it's not much. Short of having spotters, the first warning you have it's too late to teleport in. If a keep has the resources, a warning should go out before it's 50% wall strength and/or teleports and respawns should be able to get in later.

Example (large swings to illustrate - obviously could be tuned down a bit):
3 resources - keep under attack at 90%, teleport/respawn stops at 30%
2 resources - keep under attack at 90%, teleport/respawn stops at 50%
1 resource - keep under attack at 70%, teleport/respawn stops at 50%
0 resources - keep under attack at 50%, respawn stops at 50%

You can still do a blitz tactic bypassing the resources, as it's still only a couple minutes to take a wall down with full siege, but you pay more of a penalty for not stopping supply lines.

^^^This.... I love this idea. the numbers could be tweaked greatly. hopefully they will implement this on the PTS for update 4. super cool to test this out.

Same here. A very nice idea. Although, at 0 resources, respawn is already disabled, so it may be best if that warning was nearer 70% as well, to give people more time to get there.

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

.....they can die and then revive a forward camp across the map. By doing this they are able to override the transitus system and basically appear anywhere on the map instantly and amass a huge force to defend/take whatever they want......

..... The easiest solution to this problem would be to only allow reviving at forward camps within a certain radius of where you died.....

Or my Suggestion is: Binding on Forward camps.

Before you are able to respawn on a Forward-Camps, you must bind on a existing Forward-Camp by clicking on it. You can bind only at one Forward camp at once.

This means, you have to travel to a Forward-Camp before you can use it for respawn. You can not port arround the map with the Forward-camps.

This would be better for the game, because this will reward to roaming and patroulling between the frontlines.


And regarding the AOE-Caps:

Remove the AOE-Caps but implement "30 sec AOE-Mezz" and "demezz skills" like in Dark Age of Camelot.