crislevin wrote: »

I think there is a consensus growing that NBs cried and spell-bounded devs to buff them continuously, even though the problems are really just bugs and buffs are not needed.

I think there will be a reckoning down the road for NBs. Stay tuned.

I think you're right but I think part of the problem is the way people play their nightblades. If you think about it most people went in to Nightblade to dw or use bow, stamina based physical damage builds while most people went into sorc to do magicka based spell damage builds (obviously there are exceptions to both of those generalisations).

Since Magicka based Spell Damage builds are >>> Stamina based Physical Damage builds those nightblades are severely underperforming versus sorcs. However Nightblades that play as casters (Nightstaffs lol) do fine, equalling and in some cases exceeding Sorc's damage.

When ZoS balance stamina vs magicka and physical weapons vs spells that will fix a lot of the problem for physical/stamina based Nightblades (as well as physical/stamina based builds of any class).

Mystborn wrote: »

crislevin wrote: »

I think there is a consensus growing that NBs cried and spell-bounded devs to buff them continuously, even though the problems are really just bugs and buffs are not needed.

I think there will be a reckoning down the road for NBs. Stay tuned.

I think you're right but I think part of the problem is the way people play their nightblades. If you think about it most people went in to Nightblade to dw or use bow, stamina based physical damage builds while most people went into sorc to do magicka based spell damage builds (obviously there are exceptions to both of those generalisations).

Since Magicka based Spell Damage builds are >>> Stamina based Physical Damage builds those nightblades are severely underperforming versus sorcs. However Nightblades that play as casters (Nightstaffs lol) do fine, equalling and in some cases exceeding Sorc's damage.

When ZoS balance stamina vs magicka and physical weapons vs spells that will fix a lot of the problem for physical/stamina based Nightblades (as well as physical/stamina based builds of any class).

Wasn't there a recent post regarding this and them looking into some changes? I think they are starting with the armor that provide stamina bonuses.

Yeah, I think ZoS recognises from both player feedback and internal metrics that there is an imbalance there and I think it's something they are definitely working on but it's not an easy fix. Just saying "all stamina abilities do 20% more damage" isn't the answer. They need to look at not just the abilities themselves but the armour passives, the fact that as a stamina user your offensive resource pool is used for blocking/bashing/dodging/ccbreaking, stamina vs magicka itemisation - look how easy it is to get spell crit on setbonuses compared to weapon crit - look at magicka restore options like spell symmetry, dark exchange, magicka flood (warlock set), magicka furnace etc. compared to stamina restore options...

There are a *ton* of factors contributing to the inequity and making the right, incremental changes to all the areas is the right way to fix it - unfortunately that takes a while to do.

My main is a dk, and always will be. Ever since beta I have thought our gap closer's distance was over powered.to me it dosnt make sence to slide that far on the ground. Not very realistic imo. I wouldnt mind if the devs nerfed it to the same distance as bolt escape. Then gap closer and gap extenders would be even and fair.