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How much of a train wreck will the justice system be (or not)?

korkibucek
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I've heard that ESO is getting some sort of justice system?

Incoming train wreck or super success?
Edited by korkibucek on June 11, 2014 4:22AM

How much of a train wreck will the justice system be (or not)? 122 votes

Complete train wreck
38% 47 votes
Neutral - No one will care
22% 27 votes
Massive success
39% 48 votes
  • Mablung
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    I wish each thread in this forum had a poll......
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    The idea is quite good , but considering each of zens patches and what happend on the big patch ...
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    -Hanlon's razor
  • SFBryan18
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    Really depends on what the system will actually be.
    Edited by SFBryan18 on June 11, 2014 4:40AM
  • Lunerdog
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    Not sure I want to think about it yet...


    Harvests a piece of jute...

    "Stop right there criminal scum, that was the kings jute, pay the fine or go to jail"


    On past experience with this game I get the feeling that it won't work correctly for weeks after it's introduced, see you in jail.
  • korkibucek
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    Mablung wrote: »
    I wish each thread in this forum had a poll......

    Don't worry I'm working on that
  • NakedSnake
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    If someone is witnessed stealing an item or pickpocketing another person, a bounty may be placed on them and all armed witnesses will become hostile. Otherwise, the victim may just comment on the theft, usually confronting the thief and asking for or taking the item back, or possibly notifying the local guard. If there are any Guards present, they may try to apprehend the thief. If the thief does not contest the arrest, either choosing to pay off his/her bounty or serve an appropriate jail sentence, the guard will confiscate all stolen items that the thief is carrying, regardless if the items were involved in the crime in question or not.

    All Stolen items are marked with a red hand icon Red-hand. In Skyrim, it is marked with "Stolen", in the Items menu and it's name is in red text when withdrawn from a container. Most merchants do not buy stolen goods, but fences and certain merchants (such as Manheim Maulhand) will, as well as merchants invested in by using the investor and fence perks.

    From the wiki

    If it is anything like previous games it should make things very interesting but the implementation will have to be spot on or bug fixes will abound.
    "Brilliant! Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?"
  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    i can see it now, massive groups of players congregating in towns and farming guards
  • Blackwidow
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    Is there any reason to believe anyone will be here to find out?
  • Mablung
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Is there any reason to believe anyone will be here to find out?

    Alex, I will take failed MMOs this decade for 100 please.
  • Blackwidow
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    Mablung wrote: »
    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Is there any reason to believe anyone will be here to find out?

    Alex, I will take failed MMOs this decade for 100 please.

    ESO?

    No wait!

    Who is ESO?
  • david271749
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    It's gonna be awesome!


    Edit: I thought this was public. I voted train wreck.
    Edited by david271749 on June 11, 2014 5:51AM
  • Mablung
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    It's gonna be awesome!
    Can you see into the future? That is awesome if you can. I wish that I could.
  • Menelaos
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    Not only NPC should become hostile. Thieves should be PVP-flagged with a bounty on them. Makes it more fun...
    ...und Gallileo dreht sich doch!
  • david271749
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    Mablung wrote: »
    It's gonna be awesome!
    Can you see into the future? That is awesome if you can. I wish that I could.

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  • Hamfast
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    It will all depend on the implementation, from what little I have read about the idea, I am ambivalent at best...

    If it turns the PVE areas into PVP zones, if it allows those of us that dislike PvP to be harassed by folks who like to wave their epeen around... then it will be the wreck of a train that I will have already gotten off
    Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most...
  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    korkibucek wrote: »
    I've heard that ESO is getting some sort of justice system?

    Incoming train wreck or super success?
    Pointless polls are pointless.

    How can ANYONE make any judgement about something ZOS have said nothing about.

    Please stop TROLLING simply to stir up arguments.
  • KhajitFurTrader
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    Poll: Does this forum need more polls with biased, leading questions?

    What purpose does this particular poll have, other than to stroke the ego of the OP?
  • Nuksuu
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    As long as everything is punishable by death...it will be a complete success.
    @Nuksuu - Werewolf Rights Advocate
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  • wrlifeboil
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    Massive. Train. Wreck. Predicted.

    I'm going to try to make time to get on the pts when that feature goes live.
  • Alephen
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    Menelaos wrote: »
    Not only NPC should become hostile. Thieves should be PVP-flagged with a bounty on them. Makes it more fun...

    with a bounty system. that way i can steal something making sure to be noticed then let my mates kill me for gold. can farm crap tons of money this way, much like SWGs bounty system.

    seriously though, one would regulary dump gear and suicide in some manner to get unflagged. if you got pvp flagged you would be virtually unable to do anything since other player attacks would also hit you. now if you were not flagged to groupmates then you get a raid together and wait for someone to attack the flagged, then the entire raid swarms him.

    yeah, pretty much anyway they do this, it will be at best meaningless, like the single player games, but if players involved at all, it will be another snafu.
  • leandro.800ub17_ESO
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    Depends. Big risk for a big reward or small risk for small reward

    Loot desks etc probably will get you in trouble but depends of what they will drop and at what %
    Also killing non important Npcs depending on what they drop
  • Morticielle
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Who is ESO?
    http://www.eso.org/public/about-eso/esoglance/

    European Southern Observatory
    Lady Morticielle d'Aragòn |VR12| Sorcerer | PvP Rank 21 (Major Grade I) | EU-Megaserver | AD

    Subscription cancelled due to the following facts:

    - Zenimax implements more bugs from patch to patch
    - Zenimax does not care about the increasing instability of the game. People have more and more crashes Fix of memory bug decreased number of crashes considerably
    - Zenimax has still not fully fixed the fps drops they (!) implemented with patch1.2.3
    - Zenimax does nothing to fix the massive ability lags in PvP
    - Zenimax gives more attention to unnecassary 'content' like dyes for armors than fixing issues
    - In patchnotes Zenimax lies about bugs allegedly fixed
    - Zenimax has no plan as to how balance population in Cyrodiil campaigns
    - Support is ineffective and does not even speak in a way one can linguistically understand

  • rayeab16_ESO
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    depends.

    from the wiki info, it looks like anyone (with the right skillset, perhaps) can pick the pocket of anyone else.

    this is bad, if it does it in the wrong way.

    setup 1)
    Pur's-when-picks-pockets, a well known footpad and purse lifter sneaks into town and stands in the bank. Pur's lifts many purses and sneaks out, unseen by the guards. he finds he has made a fair amount of gold.
    *the server reports that 15 different accounts had simulated pockets picked that day by character known as 'Pur's-when-picks-Pockets'. the server adds 130 pieces of gold and 12 lockpicks to his account. 15 accounts find a peice of paper saying 'you were robbed, but dont worry, it was virtual' appear in their pockets. no cash was actualy taken from their accounts*

    setup 2)
    xjuxuxus is a bot. it stand about in the bank, hidden and lifts gold from those who bank there. it then deposits the cash into the bank and every now and again, a boss bott arrives to check and receve the cash.
    *the server reports that large amounts of gold were removed every few hours from bank users in all cites and towns. player char xjuxuxus is listed as having removed at least 200 gold per character. each 200 gold has been physicaly removed from the pockets of players, and each player receves a message via a peace of paper saying 'you were pick pocketed today. we removed 200gold from your inventory. have a nice day : the ESO game. disclaimer: you will never get that moeny back. it has been give to the player that picked your pocket. do not submit tickets in the form of 'i was robbed' as the justice and pickpocketing system is WAI and we will never give refunds for picked pockets. if you want to get your money back, pick someone elses pockets.'

    see the difference? in setup 1, the player who enjoys picking pockets is rewarded, but the vicitm is not out of gold. while in setup 2, the bot can pick your pocket, and you are a victim because the game takes your money and gives it to the pickpocket.

    when someone else steals from you, you are a victim. when the game gives the thief some reward, but does not take that reward from your character, its a game.

    if, on the other hand, those who have their pockets picked are the NPCs, then it wouldnt be so bad.
    the wiki is from Skyrim though, so dont forget that 'chickens see ALLLLLL......' they are the eyes and ears of the guards....(and that probably inclueds Bantam-guars too)

    if you kill an NPC (and i hope for everyone's sake, this is only for the PvP maps, or else this will be carnage....blood will run in the streets! lol) and a guard sees you, you just commited an offence. i hope its confined to the NPCs ect becasue otherwise, there will be a murder-death-kill spree of biblical levels when the veterans realise that, as non faction members in other faction teretory, all they need to do is toggle the justice flag and then procede to murderize the non vets.
    Edited by rayeab16_ESO on June 11, 2014 11:01AM
  • Limitless
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    It's going to be fun watching this system not work properly.
    I just can't wait to be the hero ESO always needed.
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  • rayeab16_ESO
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    actualy, thats fun to do, in a roleplay way.
    but you have to make sure the aresstee is agreeable.
    (dont just walk up and pretend to arrest someone. ask first if its okay. if they wont play along, find someone willing)

    can i cheer when you arrest someone? can we get a CheeseSquad (sheogoraths private army of golden saint mercs who arrest anyone for cruelty to cheese)

    :)
  • Blackwidow
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    Who is ESO?
    http://www.eso.org/public/about-eso/esoglance/

    European Southern Observatory

    No wonder they suck at making a MMO. ;)
  • dolanjamieb16_ESO
    I hope its done something like Eve's security system where by you can become an outlaw(Pirate in eve) or you can keep above the law zones could then be split into different security levels but maybe that will be too much of an overhaul i guess maybe NCP's should attack outlaws too a bit like Concorde\gate guns do depending on the area's security level
  • seitekisaki
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    It will probably be like open world pvp except it will actually be for a cause. I'm sure it will bring more whining, and I'm sure the whiners won't find the experience elsewhere.
  • Lisa
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    I'm looking forward to it. I talked with a merchant I hadn't seen before and had [Intimidate: Give me all your gold.] I like the idea of target NPCs becoming available, not all around random killing NPCs in the streets. FYI, I didn't go for his gold. I'll be joining the guard.
    Blessed are those who explore the unbeaten path...
  • Thechemicals
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    Mablung wrote: »
    I wish each thread in this forum had a poll......

    I wish every forum members account had a poll.
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