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NB just killed me in about 4 seconds
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Venithar✭✭✭Had it been after killing someone else it would not have been an ambush and that heavy attack would not have hit so hard. And shards CANNOT proc shards.
you fail to understand, that mage very well could have killed someone within the time frame that his insta cast was still ready to use on the next target, it doesn't take that long to drop back into stealth after ganking someone1 -
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✭You don't understand, it takes 3-5 seconds to resealth and the proc would have been gone by the time he resteslthed AND used a full heavy attack.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭Man you should do more than 300 with a stamina skill if you are running a stamina build.
Im hitting for 850+ tooltip dmg with my strongest stamina skill.
Heck, flying blade hits for 450!
But this has nothing to do with your horse... you realized its his fault, right?
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✭cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
I never called you a whiner. I don't enjoy getting ganked by nightblades any more than you do.cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
Ahh yes, there's a built-in stun from being knocked off a horse I think. I don't think you can break out of it, and it's a solid reason to run with a group or dismount and stealth before entering contested areas. If you manage to see someone right before they strike, use an instant ability to dismount right away instead of using the dismount key.cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
The left+right mouse stun break didn't work?ViciousWayz wrote: »Why don't all the NBs and Templars post how many times DKs stun them? You can also break a stun, you know that right? It sounds to me they either got the drop on you and you panicked not knowing what to do next, or don't have much experience with actually having to try. In every single fight as a NB, you have to try and you have to be tactical/smart about the fight. Welcome to a more balanced game.
Hard to break stun when i've just been knocked off my horse. I was trying to break stun but nothing happened
not after i fell of my horse nope.
I'd just come out of the gate (near where the temple is) which was closed and we had about 5 keeps close to the main base so i didnt expect that area to be contested.
You can call me a whiner all you want but getting killed in 3 seconds by one person isnt fun at all
Fair enough i got owned by a nightblade but from a sorc who actually killed me QUICKER is just ridiculous.
I have no idea how he managed to hit 445 on me. My hardest hitting ability is only 302 damage, and im melee. Ranged is obviously dominant in this game
All according to your estimate of time though.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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OldSmeller✭✭✭ViciousWayz wrote: »Why don't all the NBs and Templars post how many times DKs stun them? You can also break a stun, you know that right? It sounds to me they either got the drop on you and you panicked not knowing what to do next, or don't have much experience with actually having to try. In every single fight as a NB, you have to try and you have to be tactical/smart about the fight. Welcome to a more balanced game.
Actually breaking a stun in this game is a coin toss.
Just because you have enough stam or an ability that breaks imob or stun dose not mean it will actually.. you know. work.3 -
Venithar✭✭✭Ok Vis (even though I disagree with your stealth time) I'll bite, option 2 the mage just teleported in and the BE proc'd the shards and you pretty much remain stealthed when you BE (aside from the blue ball that is)1
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Sigh, let me make this clear for you:
Crystal Fragments CANNOT proc Crystal Fragments.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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✭Ok Vis (even though I disagree with your stealth time) I'll bite, option 2 the mage just teleported in and the BE proc'd the shards and you pretty much remain stealthed when you BE (aside from the blue ball that is)
Even with one proc it still would not be 3 seconds.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Valn✭✭✭✭✭You don't understand, it takes 3-5 seconds to resealth and the proc would have been gone by the time he resteslthed AND used a full heavy attack.
He also casts Endless Fury, which does an explosion if my health falls below 20% within 4 seconds. As you can see, Endless Fury exploded, which means he killed me in less than 4 seconds.
Endless Fury - Instant
Heavy Attack- Instant
Light attack - Instant
Crystal Fragments - 1.3 seconds
(Proc'd)
Uses proc'd crystal fragments - Instant
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Sigh, let me make this clear for you:
Crystal Fragments CANNOT proc Crystal Fragments.
how can you be this dumb
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✭You don't understand, it takes 3-5 seconds to resealth and the proc would have been gone by the time he resteslthed AND used a full heavy attack.
He also casts Endless Fury, which does an explosion if my health falls below 20% within 4 seconds. As you can see, Endless Fury exploded, which means he killed me in less than 4 seconds.
Endless Fury - Instant
Heavy Attack- Instant
Light attack - Instant
Crystal Fragments - 1.3 seconds
(Proc'd)
Uses proc'd crystal fragments - Instant
Explosion - Instant
Heavy attack instant? Wow, I am wasting my time on you.
PS more than 600 damage is missing from that death recap so even in your imagination land we are missing the first attacks on you by that sorc. There was an opener(s) then the heavy... Only way you can add up to 2600 health. So you failed to use GDB because you panicked, better luck next time... But you did NOT die in 3seconds.
PPS Had he used makes fury then burned you down we would see the small initial damage on your recap, which we don't. Meaning you were executed with it.Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 10:51AMv14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Transorb✭✭Was this in Wabba last night?
I did this to somebody last night, except they were stealthing and broke stealth only for a very brief moment - it took me all of 2 seconds maybe to kill them? He was vet 12, I am vet1.
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Sigh, let me make this clear for you:
Crystal Fragments CANNOT proc Crystal Fragments.
how can you be this dumb
God give me the patience. Will another sorc explain this to this guy.?v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Valn✭✭✭✭✭You don't understand, it takes 3-5 seconds to resealth and the proc would have been gone by the time he resteslthed AND used a full heavy attack.
He also casts Endless Fury, which does an explosion if my health falls below 20% within 4 seconds. As you can see, Endless Fury exploded, which means he killed me in less than 4 seconds.
Endless Fury - Instant
Heavy Attack- Instant
Light attack - Instant
Crystal Fragments - 1.3 seconds
(Proc'd)
Uses proc'd crystal fragments - Instant
Explosion - Instant
Heavy attack instant? Wow, I am wasting my time on you.
PS more than 600 damage is missing from that death recap so even in your imagination land we are missing the first attacks on you by that sorc. There was an opener(s) then the heavy... Only way you can add up to 2600 health. So you failed to use GDB because you panicked, better luck next time... But you did NOT die in 3seconds.
PPS Had he used makes fury then burned you down we would see the small initial damage on your recap, which we don't. Meaning you were executed with it.
Okay, less than 4 seconds then because endless fury explosion was activated.
It's difficult to do much when you've just been knocked off your horse.2 -
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✭You don't understand, it takes 3-5 seconds to resealth and the proc would have been gone by the time he resteslthed AND used a full heavy attack.
He also casts Endless Fury, which does an explosion if my health falls below 20% within 4 seconds. As you can see, Endless Fury exploded, which means he killed me in less than 4 seconds.
Endless Fury - Instant
Heavy Attack- Instant
Light attack - Instant
Crystal Fragments - 1.3 seconds
(Proc'd)
Uses proc'd crystal fragments - Instant
Explosion - Instant
Heavy attack instant? Wow, I am wasting my time on you.
PS more than 600 damage is missing from that death recap so even in your imagination land we are missing the first attacks on you by that sorc. There was an opener(s) then the heavy... Only way you can add up to 2600 health. So you failed to use GDB because you panicked, better luck next time... But you did NOT die in 3seconds.
PPS Had he used makes fury then burned you down we would see the small initial damage on your recap, which we don't. Meaning you were executed with it.
Okay, less than 4 seconds then because endless fury explosion was activated.
It's difficult to do much when you've just been knocked off your horse.
Again, Mage's Fury only show up as One attack when the explosion occurs with the skill's initial damage. It is the last skill he used on you.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Valn✭✭✭✭✭You don't understand, it takes 3-5 seconds to resealth and the proc would have been gone by the time he resteslthed AND used a full heavy attack.
He also casts Endless Fury, which does an explosion if my health falls below 20% within 4 seconds. As you can see, Endless Fury exploded, which means he killed me in less than 4 seconds.
Endless Fury - Instant
Heavy Attack- Instant
Light attack - Instant
Crystal Fragments - 1.3 seconds
(Proc'd)
Uses proc'd crystal fragments - Instant
Explosion - Instant
Heavy attack instant? Wow, I am wasting my time on you.
PS more than 600 damage is missing from that death recap so even in your imagination land we are missing the first attacks on you by that sorc. There was an opener(s) then the heavy... Only way you can add up to 2600 health. So you failed to use GDB because you panicked, better luck next time... But you did NOT die in 3seconds.
PPS Had he used makes fury then burned you down we would see the small initial damage on your recap, which we don't. Meaning you were executed with it.
Okay, less than 4 seconds then because endless fury explosion was activated.
It's difficult to do much when you've just been knocked off your horse.
Again, Mage's Fury only show up as One attack when the explosion occurs with the skill's initial damage. It is the last skill he used on you.
It was the first skill he used on me most likely. I was killed within 4 seconds, that's why it exploded. Try harder?
20% of my health is 520. Which means when he hit the last crystal fragments, I was instantly hit with endless fury explosion. Which means he pretty much hit me for 864 damage in one hit.Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 11:00AM1 -
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✭A full heavy is 2-3 second charge + 1.3 for at least one crystal fragment. Those two alone (even if there were no attack duration, animation, or travel time) would not fit your 4 second claim.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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✭Are you nuts? He used mage's fury as an opener from stealth and did more than 600 damage to you? Yes yes, you will have to try harder.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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✭Face it, you used a hyperbole and got caught in it. Accept it was not 3 or even 4 seconds and move with more caution in the future.Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 11:05AMv14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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What are you referring to? You still think Fragments can proc fragments?v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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This is wrong. If a streak or two from stealth gives a proc to CF then a heavy attack with an instant CF immediately after takes about half a second because of animation canceling. Throw in another light attack followed immediately by another CF cast and the Fury finisher and it happens just like the screenshot shows.A full heavy is 2-3 second charge + 1.3 for at least one crystal fragment. Those two alone (even if there were no attack duration, animation, or travel time) would not fit your 4 second claim.1 -
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✭It exploded because you were under 20‰ health. The initial damage is not on the recap because he used it at the end.
And again all this is also without seeing the skills used for the first 600 plus damage missing from the recap.
PS keep up with the name calling. ZOS enforces their forum's UA.Edited by Vis on June 10, 2014 11:10AMv14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Except the math. Add the damage on the recap, subtract the health from his stats, apologies accepted.cjmarsh725b14_ESO wrote: »
This is wrong. If a streak or two from stealth gives a proc to CF then a heavy attack with an instant CF immediately after takes about half a second because of animation canceling. Throw in another light attack followed immediately by another CF cast and the Fury finisher and it happens just like the screenshot shows.A full heavy is 2-3 second charge + 1.3 for at least one crystal fragment. Those two alone (even if there were no attack duration, animation, or travel time) would not fit your 4 second claim.
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Valn✭✭✭✭✭A full heavy is 2-3 second charge + 1.3 for at least one crystal fragment. Those two alone (even if there were no attack duration, animation, or travel time) would not fit your 4 second claim.
A heavy doesnt take 2-3 seconds.
Lets assume he does this.
Heavy attack (already charged) -Instant -449 damage
Endless Fury - Instant (don't know the damage, lets assume it's 150)
There's the missing 600 damage.
Heavy attack -1.5s
Light attack - Instant
Crystal Fragments 1.3s
Crystal fragments - Instant
Endless fury explosion
He killed me less than 4 seconds because endless fury exploded.
The last crystal fragments and endless fury hit me with 864 damage in one hit.Edited by Valn on June 10, 2014 11:15AM2