Anyone else notice {Hunding's Rage} Set not working?

ipkonfigcub18_ESO · June 2014

I decided to give this a try, being a NB who does use Weapon Skills within the Magicka skills on my bar. And I can honestly say that this set bonus is providing 0 change the the damage (it's upgraded to 20% via the gear upgrade).

Note: Photo shows white gear at 19%, but it starts out as 18% then creeps up to 20% by upgrading the gear.

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i.e. my rapid strikes do the exact same damage as with the gear set not being used.

Castielle · June 2014

Does it work with other skills?

Cas

ipkonfigcub18_ESO · June 2014

Castielle wrote: »

Does it work with other skills?

Cas

Can't say I have noticed. I only payed attention to my Stamina abilities as those are our only Weapon based abilities. My opening ability is Magicka and I haven't see any difference on its damage.

Castielle · June 2014

Was planning on using this set with my char. Wondering if it works with other Weapon Skills or if it's completely broken...

Cas

Mujuro · June 2014

Did you check for change in your weapon power stat? I have a feeling that the set only modifies base weapon damage (light/heavy attacks) and *NOT* magic-based weapon attacks.

ipkonfigcub18_ESO · June 2014

Mujuro wrote: »

Did you check for change in your weapon power stat? I have a feeling that the set only modifies base weapon damage (light/heavy attacks) and *NOT* magic-based weapon attacks.

Correct, only Weapon based abilities. Power weapon stat as in the charge buff ?

Mujuro · June 2014

ipkonfigcub18_ESO wrote: »

Mujuro wrote: »

Did you check for change in your weapon power stat? I have a feeling that the set only modifies base weapon damage (light/heavy attacks) and *NOT* magic-based weapon attacks.

Correct, only Weapon based abilities. Power weapon stat as in the charge buff ?

No, on your character screen (hit "C", default key), you'll see a weapon power stat. I don't use the Hunding set myself, but when I use other skills/stuff that modify "weapon damage", what I've seen is that the weapon power stat changes (and this is what controls light/heavy hit damage, at least in part).

ipkonfigcub18_ESO · June 2014

Mujuro wrote: »

ipkonfigcub18_ESO wrote: »

Mujuro wrote: »

Did you check for change in your weapon power stat? I have a feeling that the set only modifies base weapon damage (light/heavy attacks) and *NOT* magic-based weapon attacks.

Correct, only Weapon based abilities. Power weapon stat as in the charge buff ?

No, on your character screen (hit "C", default key), you'll see a weapon power stat. I don't use the Hunding set myself, but when I use other skills/stuff that modify "weapon damage", what I've seen is that the weapon power stat changes (and this is what controls light/heavy hit damage, at least in part).

No that didn't change so I suspected it increased the damage when hitting

Mujuro · June 2014

ipkonfigcub18_ESO wrote: »

No that didn't change so I suspected it increased the damage when hitting

Hmm, I go make a Hunding set later and do some testing with it, will keep you all posted.

Bangstin · June 2014

Afaik the set bonus should only work with weapon skill line skills, not with class ability skills.

ipkonfigcub18_ESO · June 2014

Bangstin wrote: »

Afaik the set bonus should only work with weapon skill line skills, not with class ability skills.

Yep, we know. I'm just stating that I don't see the extra damage from using it (i.e. Rapid Strikes from the DW weapon tree)

IKilled007 · June 2014

I thought everyone knew this set was broken. People have been complaining about it for a month or so.

trimsic_ESO · June 2014

I have the same issue: I get it crafted and it does not work

Any ETA for a fix ?

Gisgo · June 2014

ikilled007b16_ESO wrote: »

I thought everyone knew this set was broken. People have been complaining about it for a month or so.

You mean im getting a 20% damage buff whenever its fixed?

ipkonfigcub18_ESO · June 2014

Gisgo wrote: »

ikilled007b16_ESO wrote: »

I thought everyone knew this set was broken. People have been complaining about it for a month or so.

You mean im getting a 20% damage buff whenever its fixed?

No, "if" it gets fixed. We all know how ZoS handles fixes in their game.

Lyall84 · June 2014

Hunding's Rage does not buff any weapon abilities. It should, it even says it does, but it does not. The 5 set is currently broken at the moment.

I would hope ZOS is aware of the issue already but if not, here is an explanation. I crafted new sets to make sure my numbers are exact and the controls are not messed with.

Bottom line: the 5 set reads (at VR 9 white quality) "Increases weapon damage by 18% when using weapon abilities". This reads to me that it increases the weapon abilities damage by 18% of the weapon's portion of the damage.

Base Damage:

Completely ungeared (ie naked) my Executioner IV (two handed morph) deals 81 damage.

Gear: All gear listed is white, with no enchantments or traits, unless otherwise listed.

Level 13 vendor bought great sword (Green) = 40 damage.

VR9 crafted great sword = 134 damage.

VR9 crafted medium hunding's rage set (5 pieces) = 18% increase.

Test:
Naked with green level 13 sword, Executioner does 106 damage. So far it can be noted that a about 62% of the weapon's damage is added to the skill's damage.

Naked with white VR9 sword, Executioner does 166 damage. It appears that this weapon added about 63% of the weapon's damage to the skill's damage. Pretty consistent.

5 Piece Hunding's Rage set equipped with green level 13 sword. Executioner tool tip still displays 106 damage. It appears that the set has 0 effect. Set is broken and useless. Should be around 110 damage if you count the set as only increasing the weapons portion of the effect. Would be around 125 if the set counted to the ability as a whole.

5 Piece Hunding's Rage set equipped with white VR9 sword. Executioner tool tip still displays 166 damage. It appears that the set has 0 effect. Set is broken and useless. Should be around 180 damage if you count the set as only increasing the weapons portion of the effect. Would be around 195 if the set counted to the ability as a whole.

Conclusion: a crafted 6 trait requirement, 5 set bonus, that can do nothing but help any type of weapon skill or stamina build, is 100% useless.

Lyall84 · June 2014

Gisgo wrote: »

ikilled007b16_ESO wrote: »

I thought everyone knew this set was broken. People have been complaining about it for a month or so.

You mean im getting a 20% damage buff whenever its fixed?

Not directly 20% when it does get fixed...20% of the weapon portion of the damage. So normally the skill uses about 62% of your weapons damage. With the set working correctly, it should be closer to 82% of the weapons damage.

Edit: Ran 2 different combat log mods with the same results on both. The set appears to be adding about 5-7 damage to the abilities. Now mind you, this is with VR 9 gear and weapons. On a 134 damage great sword about 63% of the damage is used for the skills damage, with the 18% set bonus it should be using 81% if the weapons damage. With a weapon of that damage I should be seeing a 22-24 damage per hit increase. Not a 5-7.

If you start asking about armor of the target, i was hitting a level 40 troll in all my tests, and was giving about 80% of the damage that my tool tip was saying I should be, safe to assume that the troll has 20% physical damage reduction. Means i should have still seen a 18-20 damage increase, not a 5-7.

Remember, I am calculating this based on what the set bonus says it does "Increases weapon damage by 18% when using weapon abilities", I am only looking for an increase on the weapons damage portion of the weapon ability, not an increase on the entire ability.