From the picture, I saw a trial achievement was tied to a black dye. I was afraid that was going to happen. I would prefer that dyes were actual items that can be bought from vendors and obtained via quests/drops and not tied to achievements that the average player is not going to get.

Or make it into a whole new crafting profession where you have to use materials gathered from plants, animals and other miscellaneous things

Noctisse wrote: »

Although the whole ''based on achievements'' thing isn't so bad...it will at least prevent lvl 1 characters from running around in full black & gold sets pretending to be the ultimate bad-ass, which would have caused drama among high-level characters...

Well... too bad for them? Like people are supposed to care? Doesn't stop me from creating an alt and giving him lvl 4 blue quality fancy Ancient Elf armor where everyone else is in prisoner scrubs.

MaxBat wrote: »

It would be interesting if they tied to an achievement - certainly would open a new market for armor for those without the achievement.

Would not like this, have you seen achievement list? I have no desire to do most of it.

AleriSadasIndoril wrote: »

I like the color system!
There are individual pieces of armor with different colors, than there are a brush and a paint bucket tool - but what is the third Symbol?
any ideas?

Wait, where is this picture taken? there's pink!!!!

I can't WAIT!

Edit: nevermind, saw now where the pic is taken from.

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MaxBat wrote: »

The screenshot posted with the June information update makes armor dying look promising - as well as close to implementation. The range of colors looks broad enough to create some unique armors.

I hope it will be available for all levels of armor - not just higher levels - and all types. Also, I hope its available at all crafting areas.

Thanks for this! It looks good.

Dyes will be available for all levels and types of armor.

with the cave eat : you wont get the color if you havent done the achievement
= no LvL1 will see the color for completing weekly trials
the same for other achievement based colors

However nothing stops you from using a high level alt or guildmate to color it.
Made a 6 trait set for a level 10 guildmate yesterday as thanks for some jute I needed for an outfit for a bank alt.

psychoman88ub17_ESO wrote: »

MaxBat wrote: »

It would be interesting if they tied to an achievement - certainly would open a new market for armor for those without the achievement.

Would not like this, have you seen achievement list? I have no desire to do most of it.

Thats like me saying

"PVP rewards, would not like this, I have no desire to do that"

"Craglorn rewards, would not like this, I have no desire to do that"

If everything in the mmo was just given to you then there would be no game to play.

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There is alot of assuming and speculation going on though, no one knows past that image and some very light wording how the system is going to be implemented. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there would probably be some basic or very simple easy to get dyes available and then certain colors or color combo's will be tied to achievements like you see in the picture. I've seen other games do this, especially with SUPER POPULAR colors like having gold and black together. That way you have to work a little and its a bit of a character status symbol to have it.

By the amount of achievements and amount of colors looks like 1 achievement unlocks 1 color. Just hope scrolling over the color will tell us what achiv is linked to and hope i don't have to go do that achiv again to have it

rayeab16_ESO wrote: »

dyes (normal dyes) should NOT BE STATUS SYMBOLS

you allready took the shineys. you allready took the best armour looks in the game
(admitedly, they say it was a bug. but they did not have to change all the 1-49 colour sets to pee green just to make vet gear look even better. vet gear has the shiney overlays, that is more than enough to show off with)

if you look carefully at the picture, you notice you have to wear the gear to dye it
this means that, no, you cannot just make a set in a colour you want, and dye it and sell/ give it or bank it to that alt. you can only dye non bind items
the fact that the achement dye in the image isnt even proper black! is scary. becasue it means that you cant even have 'nearly' the shade you want.
in GW games, black, silver and white (the pure versions in gw2) were the hardest to find. sure, i get that, but it also meant that botting for that, and buying that, becasue the worst thing. if you got a drop of black, you were into platinum, baby! becasue only the guys that were there allday/night could afford to buy them.

there are more than enough showoff things in the game. titals and veteran gears for one. soon enough there will be fancy mounts, fancier pets.
dyeing your gear from rancid butter yellow and guarpee green is not a bonus, its a frakkin NECCESSITY! (and at least that way, you can instantly see who is a goldbot, becasue the rags should not be dyeable)

if you must have fancy achevement dyes, make them metalic dyes. use the veteran shiney overlay part. take the darkest (purest) dyes and attatch the shiney overlay to them.

and, if you realy have to say to players 'because i cannot stand to see others run about in <insert shade i hate here> remove their options but allow ME to have whatever dreadfull combination I personaly must have'
add a button that turns off all dyes on your screen but player dyes.
(its like show / hide helm....have a show / hide other player dyes button in config. that way you can turn off all dyes if you want, but your own)

You are right in that you have to wear the set so you can not color bound on equip items and give to other players however you can give to an alt as bound items can be used by alts unlike in wow.

It don't look like dying use resources but some have some achievement requirements.
It will not be required to have much achievements to change gear from ugly or badly matching color to something else, the special look is something else

I hope one day we will be able to equip armour, dye it how we like, and then convert it to a one-piece disguise. That would be wonderful.

I like the idea of unlocking dyes colors based on achievements. Just throwing this comment in to balance some of the anti-achievement group.

It would be awesome to have a rare color tied to fishing achievements.

zaria wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

AleriSadasIndoril wrote: »

I like the color system!
There are individual pieces of armor with different colors, than there are a brush and a paint bucket tool - but what is the third Symbol?
any ideas?

In Paint they had a tool that erased that looked like that.
So an eraser to remove a dye would be my guess.

All the symbols are a bit mysterious, all armors have three color zones, main and two trims.

Swtor had armour colouring like that, and dye packs that only dyed the first two colour types, meaning the third couldn't be altered, lol.

I really do suspect the mysterious tool might be a dye remover, in case you don't like it after a while

My take on the tools
First tool, looks like a paint brush, might allow you to apply a pattern like a hawk symbol, or flame symbol.
Second Tool, looks like a paint tin, Filler tool, allows you to colour that section (main, secondary or tertiary) with a colour you choose.
Third tool, looks like a sponge, dye eraser, removes dye from that area, might have to scrub it over sections to completely remove colour.
Fourth tool, Looks like an eyedropper, allows you to pick up a colour and use it with other tools.
Fifth tool, looks like a square divided, allows you to save colour combination you like. (noticed colour combos below and figured that one out).
Then you have colour selection below that to choose from.

But that's just my take, I may be wrong about every single aspect. (I doubt it, but then it is MY opinion, I'm not going to start thinking I'm wrong)

EliteZ wrote: »

As for the weapons themselves, let us just dye the small parts like the hilt of a sword and not the actual blade as a pink blade would look silly.

Oh great, NOW I want a selection of coloured Swords, A bright Blue one for an Ice enchantment, a Orange with red Highlights for a Fire enchantment, and a normal Silvery one with Blue and Yellow bolts on it for a Lightning enchantment.

we have enough gold sinks allready. we dont need more to spend gold on, that the botters and goldsites can try to make us use their services for.
if a dye is one use, it creates desire for it more than if its 'get it once, use as much as you want'
if you have ever played games where the playerbase controls the economy completely *cough goozu/luminary cough* you will realize that what we see here isnt price gouging. when a single item of rice costs as much as a top end horse (here i mean) you might see what i mean.

@‌ Zaria i had no idea that bound here meant just to your account, i thought it meant to that character. that at least, is a little encouraging, thanks

also, remember that its likely that the achevements required are going to be the new carrot ona stick for us.
do weekly pvp matches, get X amounts of dye achevements
do trials, get X dye
reach new max level, get X dye.

im tired of games ramming down your throat that the so called end of the game, is the point of the game.
that is like saying that your death is the whole point of your life.
its the journey that is the fun part. not the last gasp at the end of it.

if i want to walk through the game. take things slowley. look around me. enjoy the little things, like lore and enviroment and conversations. find Maik the lyer and so on....thats my choice but i should not be told that cosmetic things, things that only have a value in their looks...are beyond me becasue i am taking too long.

taking a long time, is what the game WANTS! the longer you stay, the longer you sub....they should be making content that keeps players resubbing.
and while so called 'endgame' stuff keeps a certain type of player, it only holds them for days-weeks at most. because those that rush content down, dont stop to *chew* their food....then they ether whine about filling their plate up, or move to the next diner....and that is a never ending contest of all-you-can-eat....trying to beat the next game in the list, the next thing.
*shakes head*

- marcusstratus's wife speaking -

being able to change the color of my robes/armor is a dream come true!!! while some of the current colors are ones I've liked, I'm not enthusiastic about all of them, and since color preferences are definitely going to be widely varied among players, the ability to choose our colors is a Huge plus. Customization is always good.

But if it really is tied to acheivements all my enthusiasm goes right out the window. That's like waving candy in front of a kid and then telling them they have to finish eating 10 plates of overcooked broccoli first. no thanks.

as someone else said, I could see a few 'fancy' colors (like metalic or whatever) being a badge of achievement, but being able to stand to look at your character should be a basic option, not something you can only get after playing something you didn't to, or maybe for some reason even can't. While it's a good point that you shouldn't get all the 'rewards' for not playing at all, I don't think that coloring your outfit should be a reward of that type. When you're spending hours and hours looking at your character, you're going to feel a lot more pleased and excited and devoted to them if they look how you want. A good case in point is my husband before the patch that changed some of the colors. He'd just graduated to spidersilk and it was salmon pink. He nearly stopped playing because the 'ugly' color was so demotivating. Similarly I happen to dislike the color blue....but i like playing a mage, and that seems to be what a lot of the robes are, various shades of blue, it's very disappointing. Personally I think it makes MUCH more sense if you're going to implement a dying system to make most of it a basic feature which will enhance people's satisfaction with their character and make them want to spend a lot of time playing. Not as someone else said, turning it into a carrot that encourages you to rush through content just to get the look you want sooner. I don't want to end up waiting till there's nothing left to play before I finally get to wear my favorite color - what's the point by that point? Now, I can see an argument for fancy gear being related to 'rank', but not color.

indytims_ESO wrote: »

Having various dyes being 'rarer' than others? Especially -black-, which will, as usual, be incredibly popular? Again - lame.

EQ was pink, other neon colors and black... dyes are going to make ESO so stupid looking over night...