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Gisgo wrote: »

GrimCyclone wrote: »

Best news in the history of MMO. Can't wait to see the fizzle out right as my arrow flies into their chest. AP ch-ching.

Arent you the same guy that opened several threads against "nerfing"?

I guess you are only against it when its hitting your class.

Sweden, 22.

hamon wrote: »

Morbus2 wrote: »

crislevin wrote: »

use it again within 4 sec increase cost by 50%.

Are DKs happy now?

This is terrible. Once again ZoS has ruined a perfectly good skill to cater to the PvP whiners and QQ'ers. This game is going down hill faster than anyone could have predicted and its all because of self-inflicted wounds.

They can't do anything right

it's only gonna affect you in pvp anyway. why would you ever need to spam 2 in under 4 seconds in a PVE setting?

Oh I don't know, maybe a bad "pull" and need to bolt away fast, or a boss fight that is going bad and your running out of magicka, or maybe your aoe agroed one too many mobs at a dolmens and you need to bolt away to safety, etc, etc, etc . .

Well, but "instantly teleport away to safety if things go wrong" is obviously overpowered, since no other class has a similar spell.
Templar, Nightblade and DK can also be played as mage, and they have to run and hope that their heal or armor buff keeps them alive long enough.
They also just increase the cost, you can still gain a lot of distance which should save you from death, what this spell was intended for (not for faster travel, there are horses for that).

jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »

crislevin wrote: »

use it again within 4 sec increase cost by 50%.

Are DKs happy now?

Hope this never goes live as it will destroy the sorc class playability unless they also add at the same time some kind of survivability against rush and bash. With this proposal you wouldn't even be able to use the spell to fight to avoid bash/rush instead of run away. There has never been anything wrong with the actual skill itself. It is the pvp'rs using the hack mod that allows them to port forever people are really mad at but they don't understand that. Changing the base skill isn't going to fix the cheaters' hack mods.

block + cast like every other light armor caster?

Funny thing is; you can still do that, bolt 2 times, dark exchange a couple of seconds, bolt escape. It only changes slightly.

But DKs celebrating and hooting is always fun to watch so if this pleases them, let it pass

wouldn't a sorc just be able to use the dark exchange/converson power to keep spamming bolt escape? Might be a stupid question but I don't play a sorc but from what I understand they have a power that pretty much regens all health and magicka at a cost of stamina?

Jimm_ay wrote: »

wouldn't a sorc just be able to use the dark exchange/converson power to keep spamming bolt escape? Might be a stupid question but I don't play a sorc but from what I understand they have a power that pretty much regens all health and magicka at a cost of stamina?

you have to have a stamina to do it and full stamina to top off. What youll have is a sorcerer who bolts twice then then casts dark exchange and waits one second to bolt escape twice again then finds he cant use dark exchange at all or the spell will channel for the very little stamina he recovered in 3-4 seconds. About 2 ticks of stam recovery. So no, he isnt going to be doing that unless he starts carrying .....stamina potions.

This change is only going to lead to the use of conjured ward and annulment plus ball lightning bolt escape morph as the main defense for Sorcerers, and trust me, you arent going to like that either.

FunkyBudda wrote: »

kitsinni wrote: »

It is just like Bash enjoy the absurdness while it lasts but if you expect it to be around forever you are being foolish. Honeslty a spammable ability that makes you impossible to catch even on a horse?? Really?? How on Earth would that not end up getting changed? PvP - Run in and attack and end up further away than a horse can catch you .. totally balanced.

it's only fair now all CCs and gap closers should have diminishing returns, cool down or increased cost if u use it again in quick fashion, just like the BE nerf.

Let the nerf war begin. You whined and cried about nerfing to one of my main class's abilities, I will make sure you get one back in return.

First off I never whined nor cared about it. It is very tough guy of you to wish a nerf against me though so grats on that!

So what other classes have "CC and Gap Closers" that allow them to get accross an entire map faster than a horse can catch them? What does it have to do with CC in any way? What other "gap closers" do you not need any target to use? What "gap closers" need to be spammed over and over and over? Why can't you still just spam this with a little more cost?

kitsinni wrote: »

FunkyBudda wrote: »

kitsinni wrote: »

It is just like Bash enjoy the absurdness while it lasts but if you expect it to be around forever you are being foolish. Honeslty a spammable ability that makes you impossible to catch even on a horse?? Really?? How on Earth would that not end up getting changed? PvP - Run in and attack and end up further away than a horse can catch you .. totally balanced.

it's only fair now all CCs and gap closers should have diminishing returns, cool down or increased cost if u use it again in quick fashion, just like the BE nerf.

Let the nerf war begin. You whined and cried about nerfing to one of my main class's abilities, I will make sure you get one back in return.

First off I never whined nor cared about it. It is very tough guy of you to wish a nerf against me though so grats on that!

So what other classes have "CC and Gap Closers" that allow them to get accross an entire map faster than a horse can catch them? What does it have to do with CC in any way? What other "gap closers" do you not need any target to use? What "gap closers" need to be spammed over and over and over? Why can't you still just spam this with a little more cost?

BE is a class defining ability, it's not an ability that allow Sorcs to solo Craglorn content, it's not OP. Those that cried are probably the PvP idiots or the melee builds. Since this will greatly increase Sorcs disadvantage against melee classes, to balance it CCs and gap closers need a nerf.

PvP crying rules balancing here I guess.

See yall later once this goes F2P.

Witar wrote: »

kitsinni wrote: »

So what other classes have "CC and Gap Closers" that allow them to get accross an entire map faster than a horse can catch them?

Nightblades

I'm assuming your talking about Path of Darkness that basically allows you to run at sprint speed for about a second before you cast it again? Not even close to faster than a horse, you are on the screen the entire time for anyone to target .. not even close to the speed you can move with BE.

The way BE is now it isn't about "melee idiots" no class has any abilities that can come close to touching you. You dissapear completely and appear out of range of most attack. Within two or three clicks you are across the map. Pretty much every Sorc still can spam it 4+ times if you need to be further than that for an "escape" you should probably lose that fight anyway.

nerf it to oblivion, why give one class a cheap escape mechanism whereas the rest suffers:p

It was abused way too often, this was a good move.

I'd suggest that many of you go to the PTS, try it out, and send /feedback. This is a note for the PTS server, meaning it's far from set in stone. If it's too much, too little, whatever, you can find out there and tell the developers directly. That would be the productive way to go about this. If you don't understand what the change means, you can also go there and try it. This isn't a regular patch note. No one should even be posting about it in this section of the forums.

FunkyBudda wrote: »

Those that cried are probably the PvP idiots or the melee builds.

I know it's fashionable for people who PvE exlusively to complain about balancing for PvP, but you have to realize that the entirety of the game is not just what you like to do in the game. Changes also get made due to PvE that end up affecting PvP. It goes both ways and people who are concerned about how something is (or isn't) working in either PvE or PvP are not idiots by any measure. You're looking at this from an extremely self-centered perspective.

Besides, how on Earth does this hurt PvEers? The skill has very few uses in PvE. You can pretty much just sprint away from most mobs if you're in trouble; why would you bother taking up a skill slot just to escape from bad pulls that you should be careful not to make in the first place? Even if you absolutely need it for that, I'm sure 2-3 on-call bolt escapes will still easily get you out of harms way.

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

It was abused way too often, this was a good move.

explain to me how a class defining skill called "Bolt Escape" is abused when it is frequently used for escaping? Or are you one of those melee guy that want to say "if sorc is caught within melee range they should accept death" while the inverse of the that logic doesn't apply to melee builds that get caught in range combat?