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VR 6 Nightblade solo Craglorn bosses video! Without invisible, stays full health

  • captain_awesome
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    Derelict wrote: »
    You do realize he is exploiting a bug in force siphon right?

    ALL the fast times are exploiting this bug.
    ALL of them are exploiting.
    Dominion FTW.
  • Erock25
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    Phantorang wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    Phantorang wrote: »
    Sorc dont need staves and wands or anything, with Critical surge they can solo everything.

    Proof or are you just pulling things out of you know where?

    If you store stuff up there, keep it to yourself, we dont want any part of it, just being able to post such an idea says alot about you ;)

    Tons of videos on youtube of Sorcs soloing stuff, even dolmens with crit surge as their main way of healing. Oh yeah, if stuff is even remotely going bad, they bolt away for a new try.

    You are explicitly talking about Sorc soloing 12 man craglorn content but now you are talking about dolmens huh? I guess your video hunt didn't go to well. Come on man, you have to admit that it is humorous that your bolded message text is crying about a misguided post title that implies the NB solo'd craglorn 12 man content, when at the same time you are making the same exact mistake with Sorcerors.
    You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
    You received 500 LOLs. It ain't no fluke, you post great stuff and we're lucky to have you here. +50 points
  • Kyubi_3002b16_ESO
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    from what I seen here... magelight,health funnel, volcanic rune, magicka regen resto spell, blessing of protection, crippling grasp, sap essence with veil of blade is his build. From a logical point of view I think hes actualy running a ultimate generator and if he indeed is running a shield off hand its likely to gain the 15% reduction cost on ultimate from akaviri dragonguard by using sword/shield/amulet

    how his build work is that every time damage is dealth he recover health from the essence drain ability of restoration staff. Veil of blade hits several time over the duration so every hit landed heals him as such as well as any other hits he land wich is why he use essence drain on multiple target in the area, he also gain mana and stamina from this thanks to vampiric strike and may use sap essence and the other spells at will from it. Its a well tought build wich is actualy genius work. He also use potion several time to recover when hes out of health or mana.
    Edited by Kyubi_3002b16_ESO on June 2, 2014 5:21PM
    One bow to darken the sun
    One bow to unite the clans
    One bow to conquer the world and in darkness drown it...

    - Prophecy of the tyranny of the sun
  • Guppet
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    Can someone please tell me which combat add on he was using? I would love to switch to it. The addons are what make this game playable for me :smiley:

    I think it's calls cloud or combat cloud.
  • Kyubi_3002b16_ESO
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    his build look like http://esobuild.com/?MwbgbCCskgdMBGW8AmUDsAuMsCGuAGAJgL1wCMBjYTIgFjIA4DT8KBTTJfS2suokS6wAZpRDA6+SI0rwi7AJyNIueGFwJGdOcCKVykHXGSmzZoAA

    this would indeed be a force siphon abuse if force siphon ever was a abuse in the first place. To be honest I think it would suck if they had to nerf all those dot spell just because of it or to nerf restoration staff for the same reason.

    Before you ask no I never cared to play nightblade as a stealthier I always ran destruct or resto staff with light armor and siphon from lvl 1 to vet 7 since the beta. Nightblades offer a fertile ground for dark themed spellcaster such as warlock and bloodmages so why not run one entirely based on curse and siphoning spells? Something the sorcerer cannot because all its spell are based on daedra summoning elemental magic or just spawning crystal over the place (I don't want crystals! I want curses hexes and stat drain themed ability... give me a necromancer or a black mage but stop sending me some ridiculus elementalist)

    My stealthiest character right now is actualy a khajiit sorcerer using bow in medium armor with critical surge... talk about play what you want well I do :trollface:
    Edited by Kyubi_3002b16_ESO on June 2, 2014 5:40PM
    One bow to darken the sun
    One bow to unite the clans
    One bow to conquer the world and in darkness drown it...

    - Prophecy of the tyranny of the sun
  • Bromburak
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    Worstluck wrote: »
    Nightblades are so underpowered

    No, but many that pick a nightblade and complain because they can't deal with this class are underpowered ...
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    The nerfs to DK should fix NB
  • Redwyrm
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    Nice skill usage.
    Btw invisibility no longer an option. I really don't understand why zenimax changed it, but... if you are the only aggroer, and constantly gon invisible (but non perma-invis) - mobs will reset.
    I do hope that was done by mistake and will be fixed soon.

    P.S. also, because of same(?) bug, stealth opener often do 0 damage -_-
    Edited by Redwyrm on June 3, 2014 5:37AM
  • vengance89
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    I'm pretty sure this guy is hacking at 1:46, 2:39. 3:07 etc. it says "Hold Left Click to Exploit"
  • RatsnevE
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    This 'game' should be re-marketed (after recalling and completing proper beta-testing) as a Strategy MMO (new genre). All single-player-ONLY battles inside or outside the main story line should be eliminated so that casual gamers can continue the story and adventure with help that they very well may need.

    Characters need re-balancing so the Sorcerer in light armor with staves isn't overpowering over every other class and monster any more then a Nightblade with medium armor and sword & shield.

    Many have 'simplistically' said a new gamer should develop and play a character they would have fun playing. Well, that means that any class, gaming style, or weapon type shouldn't have any advantage over any other class, gaming style, or weapon type. If it does (and they do) then you may end up now in just about every single-player-boss battle like my Nightblade with sword & board severely disadvantaged, dying, and clueless what to do about the difficulty and refusing to wear or use items inappropriate to her character. In other dungeons and the open PvE world there is plenty of help available grouping or joining in each other's battles on-the-fly!

    I am very hard pressed to understand why I don't want to drop ESO like a hot potato and demand a full refund because I don't think Zenimax is going to straighten this game out favoring hardcore strategy.

    I've played one other MMO, Guild Wars 2, successfully and solo. The huge differences were there was no complexity in my character development there and by all means there were no situations forcing me to go 1-on-1 eight or so different times with bosses in the main story line. In fact, there were no single player instances in the entire PvE portion of the game.
    Edited by RatsnevE on June 3, 2014 3:32PM
  • Kraven
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    vengance89 wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure this guy is hacking at 1:46, 2:39. 3:07 etc. it says "Hold Left Click to Exploit"

    I'm hoping this was a joke, but knowing how poorly many actually play the game I'd not be surprised if you're being serious. A successful block or interrupt leaves a target vulnerable at which time a power attack is exploiting their vulnerability. As far as the message coming up and letting you know they're susceptible to power attacks it's a part of the native UI not even an add-on.

    Yep, mad hacks...
    Edited by Kraven on June 3, 2014 3:56PM
    V14 - IMPERIAL NIGHTBLADE - DPS/TANK
    V13 - BRETON SORCERER - HEALS/DPS
    V2 - REDGUARD DRAGONKNIGHT - MELEE DPS
    V1 - BRETON TEMPLAR - TANK/DPS

    to be continued... Nevermind, no longer "to be continued"
  • Kraven
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    RatsnevE wrote: »
    Many have 'simplistically' said a new gamer should develop and play a character they would have fun playing. Well, that means that any class, gaming style, or weapon type shouldn't have any advantage over any other class, gaming style, or weapon type. If it does (and they do) then you may end up now in just about every single-player-boss battle like my Nightblade with sword & board severely disadvantaged, dying, and clueless what to do about the difficulty and refusing to wear or use items inappropriate to her character. In other dungeons and the open PvE world there is plenty of help available grouping or joining in each other's battles on-the-fly!

    The game needs balancing no argument. You lost me however with "every single-player-boss battle like my Nightblade with sword & board severely disadvantaged, dying, and clueless what to do" since I play a S&B NB tank I have had very little issue with solo content to V9 (I won't count from 9-10 since I got that in Crag) the only real time I had a lot of issue was when switching over and working on a DPS build because I had spent so long getting tank build down perfectly where I want it.

    I have a video on my youtube channel of me soloing an Anchor, I was low 30s Anchor was upper-mid (36-37 or so). I wasn't able to do so because skills were 'OP' it was possible because I block when I need to, dodge when I need to, use terrain to break LoS, use pots, pick which target to focus on and above all have the player skill to pull it off. Same is true of + and ++ content.


    Yes classes need to be balanced which is why I love the NB, it takes actual player skill more than DK or Sorc. In general I know there are very good DK and Sorc out there. For every good DK or Sorc there are 5+ bad ones, where for every 10 NBs there is 1 good one.
    V14 - IMPERIAL NIGHTBLADE - DPS/TANK
    V13 - BRETON SORCERER - HEALS/DPS
    V2 - REDGUARD DRAGONKNIGHT - MELEE DPS
    V1 - BRETON TEMPLAR - TANK/DPS

    to be continued... Nevermind, no longer "to be continued"
  • RatsnevE
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    In my case player skill (battle tactics) is no doubt part or all of the problem. My NB is based on someone else's design who has gone well into Veteran too. The NB is what I wanted to play and have fun with. Is it tactics or is it fine tuning something? Clearly play style makes all the difference in the world. After already finishing Guild Wars 2's PvE successfully a couple years ago it seems which contained no single player instances I know the issue here with ESO is that. It would only get worse and worse. The whole game is pushed toward hardcore serious strategy--not any adventuring sort of fun for me. I'm finished with this sort of Strategy MMO world.
  • Sangeet
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    I gave the build a try, but i could not kill dark mane in vr6 zone. I did not have the same self healing morph, used power extraction instead. Unfortunatley i could not switch weapons fast enough to pull this off. Also the self healing debuff takes forever to cast. Granted is that my inner light only has 10 percent crit chance, because i still need xp for it. Max magica was at the softcap. Could some other player pull this off? And post a vid.
  •  Mehsive
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    One extremely talented player with Extremely situational skills, unlimited tries and an extremely light hitting boss does not an OP class make. (did Hircine's Haunt the other day with 2 other players, with EASE.)

    Thread owner, you should realise (or not since you seem not to know the NB class) that the massive QQ about NB's on the forum isn't some conspiracy theory dreamt up by us downtrodden masses, overall we SUCK. I'm not saying i don't enjoy the class, it has some great spells in certain scenarios yes, but really... as a stand alone class compared to others... it lags so far behind.

    This thread should instead be a "Nerf staff and LA synergy" thread realistically, I'd be very very surprised if this player couldn't do the same on every other class if he spent some time on it, since it's very impressive.

    and, just to point out, when the vast majority of the player base have NB single target (and AOE) dps as running joke material, and the Developers are putting out entire topics about how to repair the NB class, i believe the phrase "there's no smoke without fire" can be applied.

    Major gratz to that player, very skillfully played. Thread owner, and all of you other sceptics, accept the facts, endgame is horrendously imbalanced and the fact that a restoration staff ( a HEALING role for christ's sake) is seen as the be all and end all of NB end game, there's a whole lot wrong.
    Edited by Mehsive on June 4, 2014 12:42PM
  • Elminster
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    awesome, once again being forced to play how the developers want us to, NOT want we the players want GJ.
  • TheBull
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    Oh look another Knightblade Knightmage, LA+staff or gtfo
    I like how these PvE dudes think there build is brand new :p
    RedTalon wrote: »
    If your not light armor and destro/restro staff you need to LTP ,ok bad joke.

    Its sad light armor and staves are the only valid stuff.

    When you go into a trial and 9/10 people have a staff out, there may be an issue..
  • Bromburak
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    Sunrock wrote: »
    Any class that use the 5th skill in Restoration staff.. Siphon (somthing). can solo bosses. Its very powerfull skill as you get allot of HP back each time you hit a mob with that on. Put that on two, three mobs and you are invincible.

    PS: Quick Siphon for instant cast or Siphon spirit for healing magica too

    Nope, using shadow refreshing path and mage guild degeneration in part 2 and it actually could work without a heal staff as well cause that hot is not really pulling it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0gk5HcgJQw

    Edited by Bromburak on June 9, 2014 10:58AM
  • aleister
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    It's sad to see nearly everyone being funneled into a "mage"-type character, regardless of class. But as long as there are no class-based gear restrictions or bonuses, this will always be the case even if it is mostly perception, some particular gear combination will be deemed the "best" and everyone will gravitate to it. If they nerf LA/staff, we'll see everyone respec to heavy/whatever. "Play how you want" is obviously a failed experiment.
  • Bromburak
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    aleister wrote: »
    It's sad to see nearly everyone being funneled into a "mage"-type character, regardless of class. But as long as there are no class-based gear restrictions or bonuses, this will always be the case even if it is mostly perception, some particular gear combination will be deemed the "best" and everyone will gravitate to it. If they nerf LA/staff, we'll see everyone respec to heavy/whatever. "Play how you want" is obviously a failed experiment.

    Well in this specific case you don't need light armor and at least your weapons don't have to be staffs as well.

    Video part 2 shows you that Mutagen alone is not really pulling it off.

    The trick is stacking passive hots (sap will, refreshing path , hot potion and degeneration) while you focus on fight while dots out = hots in.
    It works great because of strong ultimates with damage reduction and re using quickly.

    However, prodigy is not really required because of inner light.
    Recovery and spell cost can be adjusted with equipment at least you can still
    succeed with magicka spells on long solo fights.

    Finally you can wear a couple pieces of heavy armor that gives you more armor
    and rapid mending is a nice bonus when playing strong heal overtime builds especially this one with 4 different sources.

    But to be honest in some situations it still makes sense to use a heal/buff backup on the second bar. Especially if you solo stuff, because the self support does not fall from skies you know ... Imho the expectation of some players to beat any tough content just with melee weapons is a bit far from any kind of "game reality". You can still use it for trash and "normal" challenges. Nothing wrong with that.

    Edited by Bromburak on June 9, 2014 3:44PM
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    OMG how dare he? Its time to nerf DKs to stop this.
  • Nicko_Lps
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    A VR 6 destro/resto NB does it: "yeah but he is using destro/resto, class is useless u guyz"[/b]

    He is great playing and very smart,that does not makes the rest of us idiots..

    But if you think...I wanted to play a rogue..An asassin its totally clear.

    Thanks for the post,this is an amazing build i wouldnt use.
  • Kurusnow
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    The youtube user "weightroomgaming" has made a Nightblade video where he solo Craglorn bosses as a VR 6 Nightblade!

    I have not made this video, and do not take credit.

    He seems to handle the fight really well too, and stays 100% health pretty much the whole fight. He does not use any invisible/cloak.

    Maybe some Nightblades can take a look at this and learn from his build if you are struggling.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqUyFRaorU

    Impressive for a VR 6! And he doesn't even have issues with neither magicka or stamina at all.


    A VR 12 destro/resto DK does it: "omg class is op! nerfnerf dks!1"

    A VR 12 destro/resto Sorc does it: "omg class is op! nerfnerf sorc!!1"

    A VR 6 destro/resto NB does it: "yeah but he is using destro/resto, class is useless u guyz"
    What can I say about this as an argue that NB is good right now. LOL. Here's a combo build created specially for this encounter. And all the talking about NB is talking about underpowered in current end game content. Which tank will you take for trials this NB with volcanic rune that is viable only on trash packs or good dk with more fittable abilities? Every class can do that kind of builds but the end game content forces you to choose 1 role with maximum 1 support abilities bar. That's how it works

    Edited by Kurusnow on June 9, 2014 3:55PM
  • Loco_Mofo
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    Wow what a surprise, the solution is to use light armor and a staff. I never would've guessed...
  • Bromburak
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    Loco_Mofo wrote: »
    Wow what a surprise, the solution is to use light armor and a staff. I never would've guessed...

    No, its an option!
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