WHERE HAS ALL THE COLUMBINE GONE!?

Bayezid
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Ever since patch 1.1.2, the infamous Craglorn patch, the columbine drop rate has decreased so much that i have not been able to find one anywhere!

I have searched low level areas yet i cannot find the damn Columbine!

Is it just me or is this affecting everyone else?
Edited by Bayezid on June 2, 2014 5:58AM
  • Lepratul
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    bots grab them all
  • Bayezid
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    I have this feeling the bots not only teleport but they fly away with them with super speed.

    The bot problem in this mmo is just killing me!
    Edited by Bayezid on June 2, 2014 12:30AM
  • makreth
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    I met new stronger and advanced bots. These new highly advanced superheroic bots don't need superspeed anymore, they just vanish and appear anywhere on map. God-like
    Edited by makreth on June 2, 2014 12:34AM
  • Chatoyancy
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    Well, I haven't been looking for it in particular, but I do remembering finding some in Malabal Tor today?
  • SK1TZ0FR3N1K
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    Just got a stack, yes 100, over the last 2 hours running around by the college area in Auridine(sp). Haven't seen a single BOT head, or flying BOT all day come to think about it.
    “There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” -Will Rogers
  • Ysne58
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    I haven't been seeing columbine either but that does not mean it isn't there.
  • Vanathi
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    I find it all the time. Realise that's not a helpful response, but I'm also not actively looking for it. I've had issues with finding cotton. NA server. And I actually saw ZERO bots today which had me boggling.

    Off topic, but which also brings to mind I NEVER get heavy armor or weapons from chests if I am on a toon that uses those items. Which naturally is my main. So my lowbies find them EVERY SINGLE TIME. Which is stupid. Please ffs at least make chests random.
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  • LariahHunding
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    Vanathi wrote: »
    I find it all the time. Realise that's not a helpful response, but I'm also not actively looking for it. I've had issues with finding cotton. NA server. And I actually saw ZERO bots today which had me boggling.

    Off topic, but which also brings to mind I NEVER get heavy armor or weapons from chests if I am on a toon that uses those items. Which naturally is my main. So my lowbies find them EVERY SINGLE TIME. Which is stupid. Please ffs at least make chests random.
    Also. book reading always level skills I not using most of the time.
    "Give a man a sweet roll, he only has one to steal. Give him a sweet roll recipe, he have bunches to steal."

  • Anzer
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    I read the title to the melody of "Where have all the Cowboys Gone" by Paula Cole.

    If you're as old as me, then, "you're welcome" for getting that song stuck in your head. :disagree:
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  • Innocente
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    Actually, I find more now than I did pre-patch. But I think the early zones (1-10) have been reduced. And, that is where most of the bots hang out as well.
  • GreySix
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    Was on two different starter islands today, and couldn't find a bot anywhere. Moreover, resources were all over the place.
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  • Innocente
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    Most of the hackers are now using Z-Plane hacks. You won't ever see them. You will hear them plinking on the ore or wood, but not see them. They are below ground. You know they have been there when you find 'empty' resource nodes. Ones that vanish when you try to harvest them.
  • GreySix
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    Yeah, was looking for that on the starter islands, but the nodes were all over the place ... like I was in beta again.
    Crotchety Old Man Guild

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  • Laura
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    I use them all.


    my bad

    don't know why but this post makes me think of this song

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15SIu84TDSQ&feature=kp
    Edited by Laura on June 2, 2014 4:30AM
  • Queripel
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    Where have all the flowers gone, long time passing?
    Where have all the flowers gone, long time ago?
    Where have all the flowers gone?
    Young girls have picked them everyone.
    Oh, when will they ever learn?
    Oh, when will they ever learn?

    Where have all the young girls gone, long time passing?
    Where have all the young girls gone, long time ago?
    Where have all the young girls gone?
    Gone for husbands everyone.
    Oh, when will they ever learn?
    Oh, when will they ever learn?

    Where have all the husbands gone, long time passing?
    Where have all the husbands gone, long time ago?
    Where have all the husbands gone?
    Gone for soldiers everyone
    Oh, when will they ever learn?
    Oh, when will they ever learn?

    Where have all the soldiers gone, long time passing?
    Where have all the soldiers gone, long time ago?
    Where have all the soldiers gone?
    Gone to graveyards, everyone.
    Oh, when will they ever learn?
    Oh, when will they ever learn?

    Where have all the graveyards gone, long time passing?
    Where have all the graveyards gone, long time ago?
    Where have all the graveyards gone?
    Gone to flowers, everyone.
    Oh, when will they ever learn?
    Oh, when will they ever learn?

    Where have all the flowers gone, long time passing?
    Where have all the flowers gone, long time ago?
    Where have all the flowers gone?
    Young girls have picked them everyone.
    Oh, when will they ever learn?
    Oh, when will they ever learn?

    - Pete Seeger
  • Truno
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    Meridia stole them.
  • AngryNord
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    Michael Moore took it bowling.
  • xanikk999
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    Innocente wrote: »
    Most of the hackers are now using Z-Plane hacks. You won't ever see them. You will hear them plinking on the ore or wood, but not see them. They are below ground. You know they have been there when you find 'empty' resource nodes. Ones that vanish when you try to harvest them.

    I was wondering what the heck happened when the resource vanished in front of me right when I was about to harvest it!
  • MasterSpatula
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    I can't remember the last time I saw a Columbine or a Mountain Flower.
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    That's funny, I'm having trouble finding any Bugloss, but my Columbine and Mountain Flower picks have skyrocketed.
  • Censorious
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    Hey man! You wanna score some weeds?

    'Clever' sigs get old real fast - just like this one.
  • Inco
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    I've been finding a mix of mats in Craglorn. Columbine being slightly lower ratio than the annoying Nirnroot and Worm. Still exists, but lower ratio IMHO.
  • Bayezid
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    Laura wrote: »
    I use them all.


    my bad

    don't know why but this post makes me think of this song

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15SIu84TDSQ&feature=kp

    Well you never know! Maybe that was my intention all along!
    Truno wrote: »
    Meridia stole them.

    More like Sheogorath stole them. He's mad like that.
    Just got a stack, yes 100, over the last 2 hours running around by the college area in Auridine(sp). Haven't seen a single BOT head, or flying BOT all day come to think about it.

    Was it north of the college area where all the other ingredients are found?

    Seriously though, why are there so many bots in the beginning of this MMO? It was never like this in the start of other MMOs i played!
  • zaria
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    xanikk999 wrote: »
    Innocente wrote: »
    Most of the hackers are now using Z-Plane hacks. You won't ever see them. You will hear them plinking on the ore or wood, but not see them. They are below ground. You know they have been there when you find 'empty' resource nodes. Ones that vanish when you try to harvest them.
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    I was wondering what the heck happened when the resource vanished in front of me right when I was about to harvest it!
    This can also be phasing bugs, the only places I have seen this lately is in towns while disappearing resources was far more common on lower levels.

    Add that underground bots are easy to catch, just being underground is prof of hacking so you can ban without looking for bot behavior.
    yes they exist but phasing bugs is probably more common.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Marcusstratus
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    I've got one toon who does alchemy so I do a lot of gathering. Whenever I get to an alchemy station it always seems like I've got wormwood, water hyacinth, blue entaloma, and luminous russela coming out my ears.... everything else seems rather rare. In spite of seeing fewer bots around than I used to, I agree I'm also seeing less columbine along with several other useful flowers. It could just be a fluke, but I figured I'd chime in anyways. It certainly feels like the distribution is less balanced now.
  • Sakiri
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    zaria wrote: »
    xanikk999 wrote: »
    Innocente wrote: »
    Most of the hackers are now using Z-Plane hacks. You won't ever see them. You will hear them plinking on the ore or wood, but not see them. They are below ground. You know they have been there when you find 'empty' resource nodes. Ones that vanish when you try to harvest them.
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    I was wondering what the heck happened when the resource vanished in front of me right when I was about to harvest it!
    This can also be phasing bugs, the only places I have seen this lately is in towns while disappearing resources was far more common on lower levels.

    Add that underground bots are easy to catch, just being underground is prof of hacking so you can ban without looking for bot behavior.
    yes they exist but phasing bugs is probably more common.

    The reason its not that easy:

    The server gets player location information from the client.

    Client tells the server its in a certain spot.

    Server believes client.

    Server isnt designed to handle player movement. Too much load. This was a bad practice.

    Hackers feed false location info into memory so the server thinks youre in a legitimate location but you actually arent.

    Hard to detect and ban that when they don't even process the information server side.
  • SantieClaws
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    I got a Columbine and a Mountain Flower at my favourite place in the Alik'r Desert this morning. Just one though. Never seem to have more than 5 of anything before I use them all. Don't know how anyone could have a stack of 100. The only thing I have 100 or more of is the crafting item for Bosmer style - bone.
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  • Erlindur
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    I don't know if they actually nerfed the the spawn rates of some flowers but I think that the problem is partially of our own making (including myself). Let me explain.

    Ever since I maxed my alchemy, I've been somewhat selective on the flowers I pick up. Especially when questing and with a semi full inventory, I only gather certain flowers (yes, Columbine, Mountain Flower and Bugloss, I'm talking about you).

    So, imagine an area that has 10 flower spawn points and columbine is on the spawn list with 30% chance. At first, let's say 3/10 are columbines. If I only pick them and not the others, when those 3 points respawn, we end up with 1 columbine. If I pick that one on my way back to the quest giver, there are no columbines left.

    Edit: The problem was less apparent a month ago, because when we where leveling our alchemy, me and lots of others, gathered everything. /Edit.

    I know there are dedicated people that gather everything but if you happen to farm besides me, I'm the one who drops the chances.

    Maybe we need dedicated crafting material bags and bank spaces.
    Edited by Erlindur on June 2, 2014 8:16AM
  • Uviryth
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    I have the same problem with Ladys Smock.
  • SantieClaws
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    Uviryth wrote: »
    I have the same problem with Ladys Smock.

    Which server you on? If you are on the EU one drop me a mail to wenxue and I have about 20 lady's smock you can have.

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