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Activated Account Today - Dissapointed.
So I thought I would finally activate the game I purchased 5 months ago, and was enjoying it somewhat until playing in Khenarthi's Roost, struggle finding any crafting materials, as I was shocked at the amount of Bots that are teleporting!!!!
Surely this behavior would easily be detected?
This has taken a lot of the enjoyment out of this game for me, and thus far I will not be re subscribing. Once the 30 days are up, that's it sadly.
Another one to put on the shelf.
Surely this behavior would easily be detected?
This has taken a lot of the enjoyment out of this game for me, and thus far I will not be re subscribing. Once the 30 days are up, that's it sadly.
Another one to put on the shelf.
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Elirienne✭✭✭✭You do know that finding materials is only a tiny part of the game right? Do some quests and enjoy the story, do not pass judgement so fast.12 -
Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭I'm begining to think these bots are migrating, was in KR last weekend, and I saw maybe one or two botsEdited by Fairydragon3 on June 1, 2014 1:22PM0
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For many gathering resources while enjoying quests are part of the full experience, sadly this can't be experienced.
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Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »
some people can actually enjoy the game with out paying attention to what others are doing, If you wanted bots, you should have been here the first month6 -
Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO wrote: »For many gathering resources while enjoying quests are part of the full experience, sadly this can't be experienced.
good thing about Elder Scrolls There are materials everywhere. just becasue you are having trouble with the free mats doesnt mean you can get them, deconstruct is where i get most of my mats, but that cant be done with alchemy i'm afraid4 -
That is an extraordinarily odd statement. Then again, sarcasm is difficult to convey in a forum post so maybe it was meant to be an /eyeroll.I am going there now just to check. Never seen bots in the game.
Granted, the bots are becoming more sophisticated as the weeks slide by. At first they were primitive and simple and easy to spot, even the speed hackers were simple to spot. Now a lot of them simply teleport from spot to spot, and the only place that you see them is at a node, or at a quest NPC where they pop into existence, run the dialogue and pop back out of existence.
I haven't harvested in a starting area in a few weeks, but they were rampant near Daggerfall, gathering up nearly every node in existence although I haven't seen any in the higher level areas.
The bot problem has gotten better, for example there aren't a few dozen in every public dungeon insta-killing the bosses, but there are still a high number of bots in the game running quests and harvesting nodes.4 -
ZOS_HugoP✭✭✭Greetings @recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO ,
We are really sorry to hear that your game experience was disturb by this issue. But please be sure that we are committed to fight against such activity, and you can even help us with that, either by reporting the bots, or if there is too many, by notifying us here on the forums with the following template:
- Server
- Zone
- Approximate number of bots
But please make sure that you don't name any, as it is against our forum rules (Community Rules). As soon as we get the information, we will forward it to our team, so they can send out an almighty Game Master to take care of those bots
Edited by ZOS_HugoP on June 1, 2014 1:46PM4 -
Lynnessa✭✭✭✭recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO wrote: »For many gathering resources while enjoying quests are part of the full experience, sadly this can't be experienced.
Sorry, but that's quite an exaggeration. I am levelling clothing, woodworking, and alchemy, and I don't have any trouble finding materials out in the world.
Moreover, there are FAR less bots in the starter areas than there were a couple of weeks ago.
I just finished Stormhaven (the second "real" zone for Daggerfall Covenant) and didn't see a single bot for the entire two weeks it took me to finish the zone. Have you seen what things are like outside of the starter zones?
I think you're giving up too easily, OP--and I must say that I wish you wouldn't have posted an "I quit" thread. The only real reason for someone to make such a post on the official game forums is to encourage others to follow suit.
Oh... can I have your jute when you leave? ;-)6 -
Greetings @recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO ,
We are really sorry to hear that your game experience was disturb by this issue. But please be sure that we are committed to fight against such activity, and you can even help us with that, either by reporting the bots, or if there is too many, by notifying us here on the forums with the following template:
- Server
- Zone
- Approximate number of bots
But please make sure that you don't name any, as it is against our forum rules (Community Rules). As soon as we get the information, we will forward it to our team, so they can send out an almighty Game Master to take care of those bots
I am in the US server
Zone was Khenarthi's Roost, I have moved out of the area and went back to Auridon, and doing the quests.
How many? This is a little hard to say as they came and went so fast, they are teleporting around, so even a few would effect the game as they move so fast. I seen it happen seven + times without even looking for bots, I was only there to grab the treasures. I did the BETA so played that zone before, so did not want to do it again.
I thought id help someone kill some monsters near one node, then he mines it, and vanishes haha..... if only I had known it was a bot....
Thanks
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Greetings @recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO ,
We are really sorry to hear that your game experience was disturb by this issue. But please be sure that we are committed to fight against such activity, and you can even help us with that, either by reporting the bots, or if there is too many, by notifying us here on the forums with the following template:
- Server
- Zone
- Approximate number of bots
But please make sure that you don't name any, as it is against our forum rules (Community Rules). As soon as we get the information, we will forward it to our team, so they can send out an almighty Game Master to take care of those bots
Yah, because you have such helpful rules designed to protect the innocent. Dude, your excuses are getting old and pathetic. Bot detection should be such a simple process, yet you folks seem unwilling, not incapable mind you, unwilling to actively do something about it. Patience grows thin for many with you on this issue. Perhaps you should ensure your resume is up to date.17 -
Elirienne✭✭✭✭beowulfsshield wrote: »
Not sarcasm. I am playing as a solo player, now v7, doing quests, not caring much about nodes and generally not caring about what other people do. So I may have *seen* bots, as yes, of course I have seen other player characters running around - but never recognised that it was a bot or been invonvenienced by it.0 -
Lynnessa✭✭✭✭Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »Yah, because you have such helpful rules designed to protect the innocent. Dude, your excuses are getting old and pathetic. Bot detection should be such a simple process, yet you folks seem unwilling, not incapable mind you, unwilling to actively do something about it. Patience grows thin for many with you on this issue. Perhaps you should ensure your resume is up to date.
How rude.
How do you know what processes should be simple for the ESO team?
I think the fact that there are so many fewer bots now means they ARE actively doing things about it.
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Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »Greetings @recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO ,
We are really sorry to hear that your game experience was disturb by this issue. But please be sure that we are committed to fight against such activity, and you can even help us with that, either by reporting the bots, or if there is too many, by notifying us here on the forums with the following template:
- Server
- Zone
- Approximate number of bots
But please make sure that you don't name any, as it is against our forum rules (Community Rules). As soon as we get the information, we will forward it to our team, so they can send out an almighty Game Master to take care of those bots
Yah, because you have such helpful rules designed to protect the innocent. Dude, your excuses are getting old and pathetic. Bot detection should be such a simple process, yet you folks seem unwilling, not incapable mind you, unwilling to actively do something about it. Patience grows thin for many with you on this issue. Perhaps you should ensure your resume is up to date.
....Ok think for just one second about this story. Last night I went into crows wood to do the stuff there, to only find People farming wolves. these were people not bots, it took 10-20 minutes to be sure of this, after initiating several chats with them. IF i was any other person I would have just seen them reported, and maybe if I was angry enough, post their names on the forums for everyone to persecute this non offending player.
Don't be a *** just be cause your angy about bots, you are not the bots police, and the people who are agree, its innocent until proven guilty, and even then there is an appeal process for the mistakes and the "OMG i'm sorry I wont do it again", minor offenders.3 -
AngryWolf✭✭✭Greetings @recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO ,
We are really sorry to hear that your game experience was disturb by this issue. But please be sure that we are committed to fight against such activity, and you can even help us with that, either by reporting the bots, or if there is too many, by notifying us here on the forums with the following template:
- Server
- Zone
- Approximate number of bots
But please make sure that you don't name any, as it is against our forum rules (Community Rules). As soon as we get the information, we will forward it to our team, so they can send out an almighty Game Master to take care of those bots
I've got to say...I'm pretty impressed with Zenimax. Everyone once and while a notice will come on that GM is actively going after bots and you just need to give him a shout to let him/her know. Dang thing is I haven't seen any bots and I would love to see what the bot squashing looks like live. I image a 30 foot GM toon squashing them with their foot! LOL.
Thanks Zenimax for actively going after this issue.4 -
Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭Greetings @recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO ,
We are really sorry to hear that your game experience was disturb by this issue. But please be sure that we are committed to fight against such activity, and you can even help us with that, either by reporting the bots, or if there is too many, by notifying us here on the forums with the following template:
- Server
- Zone
- Approximate number of bots
But please make sure that you don't name any, as it is against our forum rules (Community Rules). As soon as we get the information, we will forward it to our team, so they can send out an almighty Game Master to take care of those bots
I've got to say...I'm pretty impressed with Zenimax. Everyone once and while a notice will come on that GM is actively going after bots and you just need to give him a shout to let him/her know. Dang thing is I haven't seen any bots and I would love to see what the bot squashing looks like live. I image a 30 foot GM toon squashing them with their foot! LOL.
Thanks Zenimax for actively going after this issue.
It's starting to turn into a ninja operation. Saw some people drop dead for nothing in Public dungeons last night. I didn't even realize they were bots, they are starting to name them and give them more human like movements1 -
Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »Yah, because you have such helpful rules designed to protect the innocent. Dude, your excuses are getting old and pathetic. Bot detection should be such a simple process, yet you folks seem unwilling, not incapable mind you, unwilling to actively do something about it. Patience grows thin for many with you on this issue. Perhaps you should ensure your resume is up to date.
How rude.
How do you know what processes should be simple for the ESO team?
I think the fact that there are so many fewer bots now means they ARE actively doing things about it.
Interesting, simply because you disagree with me, does not make my statement "rude". I appreciate your perspective, but sorry, I have been here since way back in beta's and without getting technical about it, the fact that they have reduced many of the bots is due to the reporting factor. It is actually something they could spot and program in, but their issue is a balancing act between account management, subscriptions and probably resources of personnel and time. Regardless, for the situation to still be continuing at this date and time, it is on their side of the equation to fix. Thanks for your perspective, I stand by my original post, and with the greatest of respect, disagree with you.
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Fair enough. I just find it odd that I've seen soooooo many and you have yet to see even one that you recognize as a bot.beowulfsshield wrote: »
Not sarcasm. I am playing as a solo player, now v7, doing quests, not caring much about nodes and generally not caring about what other people do. So I may have *seen* bots, as yes, of course I have seen other player characters running around - but never recognised that it was a bot or been invonvenienced by it.
I haven't been inconvenienced by a bot lately since I don't harvest in starter areas any more, and they are now absent from public dungeons.
There are still areas where I run into a boatload, but since they are just running quests they do not interfere with my gameplay (aside from pumping large amounts of gold into the economy).
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Fairydragon3 wrote: »Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »Greetings @recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO ,
We are really sorry to hear that your game experience was disturb by this issue. But please be sure that we are committed to fight against such activity, and you can even help us with that, either by reporting the bots, or if there is too many, by notifying us here on the forums with the following template:
- Server
- Zone
- Approximate number of bots
But please make sure that you don't name any, as it is against our forum rules (Community Rules). As soon as we get the information, we will forward it to our team, so they can send out an almighty Game Master to take care of those bots
Yah, because you have such helpful rules designed to protect the innocent. Dude, your excuses are getting old and pathetic. Bot detection should be such a simple process, yet you folks seem unwilling, not incapable mind you, unwilling to actively do something about it. Patience grows thin for many with you on this issue. Perhaps you should ensure your resume is up to date.
....Ok think for just one second about this story. Last night I went into crows wood to do the stuff there, to only find People farming wolves. these were people not bots, it took 10-20 minutes to be sure of this, after initiating several chats with them. IF i was any other person I would have just seen them reported, and maybe if I was angry enough, post their names on the forums for everyone to persecute this non offending player.
Don't be a *** just be cause your angy about bots, you are not the bots police, and the people who are agree, its innocent until proven guilty, and even then there is an appeal process for the mistakes and the "OMG i'm sorry I wont do it again", minor offenders.
Please see my response to Lynessa for the nice version, and please, in your case, consider any choice words you might wish to think on as I tell you where to go and how far to get there. And by the way, it is not a violation of the ToS to farm mobs, it is a violation of the ToS to use a program to follow a pattern and timing to farm nodes in such a manner that other players do not have an equal chance. That is the problem with the bots, and why your Crows Wood story brings no outrage.Edited by Vuldan_Ironhand on June 1, 2014 2:31PM1 -
Bangstin✭✭✭Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »
It's very possible. If you leveled fast and just played a single character you just outleveled the bots. I didn't see a single bot while i leveled my first character from lvl1 to max.
Until i started leveling my alts it didn't take very long for me to wander into a minidungeon and get swarmed by bots running bank and forth.
What just confuses me is why some people suggest bots don't exist since they haven't seen any? Logic much...Edited by Bangstin on June 1, 2014 2:44PM1 -
Lynnessa✭✭✭✭Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »
Interesting, simply because you disagree with me, does not make my statement "rude".
Ah, what I found rude was the wording and tone of the first two sentences and the last sentence of the post. Calling names like "pathetic" is... well, rude.
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Seravi✭✭✭✭✭Yeah some days the islands are over run and some days there are just a few. Same with all the other level areas. Just started an alt and did my first public dungeon in Glenumbra. Since I had to kill all the bad guys to finish the dungeon it took a while because of the bots. Wouldn't register I completed until I killed them in each area. I have a dungeon in Shadofen that is the same. I spent hours in there yesterday but the bots were too many and I just said "blah" and left.
I did manage to finish a dungeon in Deshaan after two weeks of fighting bots for the kills.... ZOS is combating them. You can see it if you re visit areas you report after a day or so. Don't give up so quick. K Roost doesn't have a lot of jute or iron. It does have a ton of chests from the shipwrecks that you can deconstruct and research items from.
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AlzarianSoul ShrivenFairydragon3 wrote: »....Ok think for just one second about this story. Last night I went into crows wood to do the stuff there, to only find People farming wolves. these were people not bots, it took 10-20 minutes to be sure of this, after initiating several chats with them. IF i was any other person I would have just seen them reported, and maybe if I was angry enough, post their names on the forums for everyone to persecute this non offending player.
Pretty sure this one was to spawn one of the bosses for crows wood's to get the achievement.0 -
Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »Fairydragon3 wrote: »Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »Greetings @recstudios.wdearrwb17_ESO ,
We are really sorry to hear that your game experience was disturb by this issue. But please be sure that we are committed to fight against such activity, and you can even help us with that, either by reporting the bots, or if there is too many, by notifying us here on the forums with the following template:
- Server
- Zone
- Approximate number of bots
But please make sure that you don't name any, as it is against our forum rules (Community Rules). As soon as we get the information, we will forward it to our team, so they can send out an almighty Game Master to take care of those bots
Yah, because you have such helpful rules designed to protect the innocent. Dude, your excuses are getting old and pathetic. Bot detection should be such a simple process, yet you folks seem unwilling, not incapable mind you, unwilling to actively do something about it. Patience grows thin for many with you on this issue. Perhaps you should ensure your resume is up to date.
....Ok think for just one second about this story. Last night I went into crows wood to do the stuff there, to only find People farming wolves. these were people not bots, it took 10-20 minutes to be sure of this, after initiating several chats with them. IF i was any other person I would have just seen them reported, and maybe if I was angry enough, post their names on the forums for everyone to persecute this non offending player.
Don't be a *** just be cause your angy about bots, you are not the bots police, and the people who are agree, its innocent until proven guilty, and even then there is an appeal process for the mistakes and the "OMG i'm sorry I wont do it again", minor offenders.
Please see my response to Lynessa for the nice version, and please, in your case, consider any choice words you might wish to think on as I tell you where to go and how far to get there. And by the way, it is not a violation of the ToS to farm mobs, it is a violation of the ToS to use a program to follow a pattern and timing to farm nodes in such a manner that other players do not have an equal chance. That is the problem with the bots, and why your Crows Wood story brings no outrage.
/face palm obviously you missed my point.
People... they don't really know what is legitimately a bot, but they do know how to take a name of someone they think is a bot, and persecute them a nd take their name to the forums, that is why naming and shamming is against the rules. you are not the judge in this trial, zos is
Moderation edit: all caps removed.Edited by ZOS_HugoP on June 2, 2014 1:38PM1 -
Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭Fairydragon3 wrote: »....Ok think for just one second about this story. Last night I went into crows wood to do the stuff there, to only find People farming wolves. these were people not bots, it took 10-20 minutes to be sure of this, after initiating several chats with them. IF i was any other person I would have just seen them reported, and maybe if I was angry enough, post their names on the forums for everyone to persecute this non offending player.
Pretty sure this one was to spawn one of the bosses for crows wood's to get the achievement.
II thought so too, since I was waiting too, but nope they just keep farming the wolves, and people were joining their groups0 -
Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »
Interesting, simply because you disagree with me, does not make my statement "rude".
Ah, what I found rude was the wording and tone of the first two sentences and the last sentence of the post. Calling names like "pathetic" is... well, rude.
Well, there in is another reason we disagree. I am usually the first one to rush to developers defense in many cases, but in this one, and many others with ESO, Zenimax developers and those who respond here on the forums have lost to much credibility to continue with the pleasant patient customer.
The problem here is one which we the community have admittedly allowed to continue, and which companies like Zenimax are now taking advantage of. Far, far to often we have become complacent and acceptant of the release of half broken games, poor customer service and problem fixes. We have accepted that no game is released perfectly or near perfectly, and so companies continue to take advantage of us, expecting, even demanding, that we be patient while they work through the myriad of problems they should have fixed before their greed based release. Do the math, $15 per person US, 200,000 subscriptions, per month. At that rate of income, we, the paying customer base, should have no concerns, and we certainly should not have to deal with this "bot" issue. Again, I am talking about the characters, usually named sdjkagd, who seem to time warp skip across your screen and who, invisible sometimes, are working a node you try and access and get the message "someone is using that." I am not talking about the groups of real players farming a mob, that is a different issue.
And so, in the course of time, when the excuses are the same, repeated to pacify rather than provide true cause and effect fix, then the choice word for me is "pathetic" since to state it in terms I would prefer would also violate the ToS.
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Fairydragon3✭✭✭✭Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »Vuldan_Ironhand wrote: »
Interesting, simply because you disagree with me, does not make my statement "rude".
Ah, what I found rude was the wording and tone of the first two sentences and the last sentence of the post. Calling names like "pathetic" is... well, rude.
Well, there in is another reason we disagree. I am usually the first one to rush to developers defense in many cases, but in this one, and many others with ESO, Zenimax developers and those who respond here on the forums have lost to much credibility to continue with the pleasant patient customer.
The problem here is one which we the community have admittedly allowed to continue, and which companies like Zenimax are now taking advantage of. Far, far to often we have become complacent and acceptant of the release of half broken games, poor customer service and problem fixes. We have accepted that no game is released perfectly or near perfectly, and so companies continue to take advantage of us, expecting, even demanding, that we be patient while they work through the myriad of problems they should have fixed before their greed based release. Do the math, $15 per person US, 200,000 subscriptions, per month. At that rate of income, we, the paying customer base, should have no concerns, and we certainly should not have to deal with this "bot" issue. Again, I am talking about the characters, usually named sdjkagd, who seem to time warp skip across your screen and who, invisible sometimes, are working a node you try and access and get the message "someone is using that." I am not talking about the groups of real players farming a mob, that is a different issue.
And so, in the course of time, when the excuses are the same, repeated to pacify rather than provide true cause and effect fix, then the choice word for me is "pathetic" since to state it in terms I would prefer would also violate the ToS.
Anyone with understanding of the gaming industry would understand this is the nature of the beast. I find it funny how so many players and consumers seem these companies, as Only out for their money. You know what happens when they do *** all the stuff they need to get done? the game dies, the company will most likely die, and people will go on to other projects to pretty much start the cycle over again. these games cost MILLIONS about only 7% of games actually see a profit. what you are asking for is compeletly unrealistic, and if you tried to make a game this way you wanted you would never get it done or even published.3
