nerevarine1138 wrote: »

That playstyle makes no sense in an MMO. Hardcore mode is a concept that was made popular by Diablo II, which was not an MMO.

And stop asking for new servers. The whole point of the megaserver is to avoid fragmenting the population into lots of little niche servers.

It makes perfect sense in an MMO such as TES IMO! Not others, but TES for sure.

I hope they add future short term specialty campaigns. Some can last a day while others a few weeks. There are so many options and it can breath life into the current stale system. If designed properly will be easy to implement and run.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Alazarz wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

That playstyle makes no sense in an MMO. Hardcore mode is a concept that was made popular by Diablo II, which was not an MMO.

And stop asking for new servers. The whole point of the megaserver is to avoid fragmenting the population into lots of little niche servers.

It makes perfect sense in an MMO such as TES IMO! Not others, but TES for sure.

There is no MMO that is designed for "hardcore" mode. Half of the learning curve in this game is dying. Rules like the ones you've described have been great for the masochists in single-player Elder Scrolls games because in those games, you aren't expected to die over and over again. In those games, you don't have to worry about being killed by server lag or any kind of bug that forces you to use the /stuck command.

Hardcore mode is not for MMOs. Period.

Blanket assertions isn't for MMOs. Period. LOL I love the malarkey people post on these forums, sometimes.

It's an alternative, not the whole game. If you don't like the ruleset or any other, don't play on it. It's that simple. You can't mod an MMO so alternate server rulesets are the only option for people who are interested in that.

Some people like hardcore even if its not something they would do all the time.

I know of one instance where a game even had a "perma-death" server up for a month or so just for fun. The rules were simple, if you died you respawned with all your gear and items, but level reset to level 1. And it was open world PvP. Lol. It had limited interest, of course, but those who played on it said it ess really interesting and fun. Teamwork went way up because death became a much bigger deal. I think at the end some guy had made it into the 30s or 40s.

So, pull your head out of wherever it is and get some perspective. Some people legitimately enjoy hard special rules sets even if they don't play them all the time.

Maybe way in the future but definitely not right now they need to fix all the issues first. It would be to much of a waste of resources when only a couple of people are actually going to play it.

Alazarz wrote: »

- No deaths allowed
- Eat and drink not only for buffs, but for survival aswell
- ( insert other cool ideas )

Note: This play style would not be forced onto anyone hence a separate server. No doubt this would be a niche thing.

If you will allow no deaths, what happens when somebody does die?

Anyway, never going to happen and it's a good thing. MMO's don't need a "hardcore" mode, if you want the game to be hard then don't allow yourself to die, go to areas that is a higher lvl and fight harder mobs, don't use all of the best gear you find. You can make the game as hard/easy as you want.

What would be better, would be having some kind of achievement and title (possibly a costume) to get to max lvl without being killed or something to give those that truely want a "hardcore" experience something to work towards.

As for world PVP, never going to happen as it's impossible to implement with the design of 3 factions, unless you have pvp within the same faction.

Granted the amount of people already crying on the forums that the games content is too hard, I very much doubt that a dedicated hardcore server would be popular and therefore a huge waste of time/resources and content.

No, because the way the poll was phrased. The word 'should' creates a bias and shouldn't be used in yes or no polls (if ever). It will skew the 'no' votes simply because some 'no' voters may not feel like there should be a hardcore server but may want one. Had the poll been phrased "Would anyone like to have a separate hardcore server?"... my answer would have been a yes. But your poll results are already ****ed so...

What a moronic concept. Make a whole new server so the dev's resources can be split, instead on having to work on one type of rule set.

Just like dark age of camelot mordred server..... full pvp, all the time, except in major cities.

And food for life, you know, eat and drink.

i notice the same people who cry for options and snubbing this. I think it should be a toggle sort of like they were going to do for RP


will it happen? never in a million years.

Alot of "NOs" but I can understand that. I just can't understand some of the reasoning behind them. The only legit reason I've seen thus far is the lack / splitting of dev resources. Other than that, remember, it would be an optional server and no one would be forced to play on it

Since Wildstars release, how about a server with more people on it?

Alazarz wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

I would like to see the communities build more instead of segregate them into smaller groups on their own private servers.

That's a fair point. On the flip side that's like saying you'd rather force players to play a certain way. I think an optional HC server would be okay. You probably would never group with or see the people (on the current megaservers) who would play on a HC server in any case

Well as I said your ideas for a HC server are perfectly doable on the current mega server. When you die go and delete the character and make your character eat every x number of hours.
There is very little chance on a HC server that someone isn't going to carry a large number of food items with them so they can always eat as they don't want to die and lose the character, this can just be simulated on these servers but you have to find players with the agreement of playing under those rules.

Try making a perma-death guild and inviting some like minded players to join you, I'm sure if you advertise the guild on these forums you would find others interested. There is also the chance to start work on your own mini community for HC players via forums or websites created by the group.

I love these blanket assertions.

Hardcore open world PvP has worked successfully in other games. Including one ruleset I can think of that allowed training mobs on other players and groups. Complete with exp loss on death.

When everyone knows the rules, they know to prepare for it. Or they just don't play there if they don't think it's for them.

Just no.