Is this a joke? Cannot kill a Boss in standard quest!

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO · May 2014

i am pretty sure he never got it that you can interrupt by holding right mb+ click left mb in melee range (as told in tutorial)

yenkin2001b14_ESO · May 2014

I took them out no problem, the flame auroch is helpful, and then you have to interrupt like crazy which means getting close up and personal. But it is very doable. IF I can do it and I suck with my reaction times, anyone can do it.

tlainya_ESO · May 2014

I had trouble on this one too with interrupt not triggering properly at times. What helped me was making sure you are standing right next to her, make sure you move her away from the rock pile/altar she tends to get hung up on it and you'll have a hard time interrupting her on it. I also( just for this fight) bound my interrupt command to the tab key and didn't use the rmb+ lmb default. I hadn't had trouble interrupting mobs before or after her, so maybe her interrupt radius is a little off or I have a lousy mouse that wasn't triggering properly but doing the above helped me get through it.

Tavore1138 · May 2014

She was a pain, especially as the server lag often meant that she had healed before I could interrupt it.

I have found maybe 3/4 of these bosses in VR (Vox is my current roadblock) where they seem head & shoulders harder than other bosses simply because they can ignore all your abilities. It's doubly annoying because so far they have been on the main region quest lines meaning progression is blocked, especially as you get into higher level VR where players are scarce so grouping is harder.

Personally I feel that if the only way that they can make solo bosses hard is by switching off player abilities it is a poor design issue rather than a player issue, simply because some classes are better able to survive the loss.

Erock25 · May 2014

Evandus wrote: »

Only one person in this thread seems to be mentioning that you can interrupt healing types healing themselves. Why aren't people doing this?

I just did this boss last night at around VR4 content. She had 11k HP and was apparently very resistant to crits (crit surge was NOT working). It took me a few attempts to kill her, mostly because I had to interrupt her so often that I was out of stamina and my stam pots couldnt keep up.

Requiemslove · May 2014

Oh the indignity of those saying "cant do it" and going on to say that cause THEY cant do it quest MUST be nerfed. You know, calling for things to be altered left right and centre is what LEADS TO A CRAPPY AND FAR TOO EASY GAME. Now I am not trying to be mean "Shirleys" but if you don't understand how to do something, stop crying about it and try learning what to do. Several in this thread have already stated you have to interrupt healing enemies. Now don't misunderstand, I have not done this specific quest but if I can kill a tough healing enemy in a lv 12 dungeon with average to pathetic lv 12 gear on my lv 12 sorcerer using interrupts what the heck is stopping you VR what evers from doing exactly the same? Stop crying about it, stop whining about it and INTERRUPT the enemy.

Tavore1138 · May 2014

'Tough' enemies at level 12... bless...

Korereactor · May 2014

I just did this and half my interrupts weren't working...then all of a sudden she flash healed herself to full health instantly. The shrine she was on was interfering with my blocks or something. She wouldn't move much from the shrine. I died (after a very long fight mind you, of me getting her down to almost nothing then she manages to get in a full heal), it all reset, had to fight the fat guy all over again. So while fighting him, she starts healing him too. My God I like a challenge, but this is a bit over the top. So I kill him again, and get this - quest complete - she's not dead. I walk past her and exit the place, quest complete. WTF? Hey not complaining, but this is ridiculous. For a minute I swore a GM was controlling her laughing at me (I know they weren't, but that's how insane the fight was). No joke. VR4 Sorc.

UPDATE: Bottom line - I am normally one of those who like really challenging stuff. But this one has bugs, which doesn't help, and really borderlines on "unfair". Can it be done? Sure. But the rewards for it aren't really worth the effort involved and required. I got lucky it completed for me.

Requiemslove · May 2014

Yea, I forgot to mention that enemy was a boss. Truth be told my sorcerer was steam-rollering the typical enemies there.

tanthil · May 2014

Alzarian wrote: »

tanthil wrote: »

maybe more ram then idk

Highlighted the important part.

If its lag, then you either need a faster internet connection (if the current one is crappy), or your problem is because the server is halfway across the world (and/or crappy infrastructure in-between).

idk ... move closer ? :'(

Id recommend a new computer case with better airflow and lots of fans then

Epona222 · May 2014

Requiemslove wrote: »

Oh the indignity of those saying "cant do it" and going on to say that cause THEY cant do it quest MUST be nerfed. You know, calling for things to be altered left right and centre is what LEADS TO A CRAPPY AND FAR TOO EASY GAME. Now I am not trying to be mean "Shirleys" but if you don't understand how to do something, stop crying about it and try learning what to do. Several in this thread have already stated you have to interrupt healing enemies. Now don't misunderstand, I have not done this specific quest but if I can kill a tough healing enemy in a lv 12 dungeon with average to pathetic lv 12 gear on my lv 12 sorcerer using interrupts what the heck is stopping you VR what evers from doing exactly the same? Stop crying about it, stop whining about it and INTERRUPT the enemy.

Having a game too hard will leave you playing it by yourself. Don't forget to switch out the lights when you leave

daneyulebub17_ESO · May 2014

tanthil wrote: »

Alzarian wrote: »

tanthil wrote: »

maybe more ram then idk

Highlighted the important part.

If its lag, then you either need a faster internet connection (if the current one is crappy), or your problem is because the server is halfway across the world (and/or crappy infrastructure in-between).

idk ... move closer ? :'(

Id recommend a new computer case with better airflow and lots of fans then

It's a well known fact that lag is often a mouse problem. Get a better one and it will probably be fixed. Or an SSD. Not sure what that is, but I hear it fixes lag too. Has to do with the pings getting fragmented.

tanthil · May 2014

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

tanthil wrote: »

Alzarian wrote: »

tanthil wrote: »

maybe more ram then idk

Highlighted the important part.

If its lag, then you either need a faster internet connection (if the current one is crappy), or your problem is because the server is halfway across the world (and/or crappy infrastructure in-between).

idk ... move closer ? :'(

Id recommend a new computer case with better airflow and lots of fans then

It's a well known fact that lag is often a mouse problem. Get a better one and it will probably be fixed. Or an SSD. Not sure what that is, but I hear it fixes lag too. Has to do with the pings getting fragmented.

What are you talking about?

Alzarian · May 2014

tanthil wrote: »

daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »

tanthil wrote: »

Alzarian wrote: »

tanthil wrote: »

maybe more ram then idk

Highlighted the important part.

If its lag, then you either need a faster internet connection (if the current one is crappy), or your problem is because the server is halfway across the world (and/or crappy infrastructure in-between).

idk ... move closer ? :'(

Id recommend a new computer case with better airflow and lots of fans then

It's a well known fact that lag is often a mouse problem. Get a better one and it will probably be fixed. Or an SSD. Not sure what that is, but I hear it fixes lag too. Has to do with the pings getting fragmented.

What are you talking about?

SSD? Its like better airflow and fans, but for you HDD. But since that and the extra fans and stuff do not help my ping fragmentation ... idk

tsvetan.dimitrov76cub18_ESO · May 2014

SSD won't help you when the so called "EU" megaserver is hosted in USA

tanthil · May 2014

tsvetan.dimitrov76cub18_ESO wrote: »

SSD won't help you when the so called "EU" megaserver is hosted in USA

and fans will?

daneyulebub17_ESO · May 2014

tanthil wrote: »

tsvetan.dimitrov76cub18_ESO wrote: »

SSD won't help you when the so called "EU" megaserver is hosted in USA

and fans will?

Not just ANY fans. Ping defragmenting fans. They cost more, but are will worth it IMO.

JosephChip · May 2014

Darkro wrote: »

This was the easiest boss I ever did in veteran content.
She does very little dmg, so the only problem is healing, which is easily dealt with.
In case you were not aware, you can interrupt spell casting in ESO. The easiest way is to basically go near boss , hold right click(BLOCK) and press right click. That will hit the NPC or even a player in such a way that it interrupts ANY SPELL-CASTING.

All I did was go near boss, dps as normal ( I am a sorc) and the moment I saw she wanted to heal, I just slapped her sensless as mentioned above. She healed for a total of 1-2k~ the whole fight, because I was day dreaming sometimes and was slow to react to her healing.

Bingo. It's appalling how some people still cannot wrap their heads around the interrupt/counter system.

Mablung · May 2014

I am VR8 and in Rivenspire. On a quest called the Lightless Remnant where I have to enter Doomcrag. I have to kill Baron Montclair. He casts many and I mean many expanding circles of death. I have not played my Vet character since dying to this stupidly insane normal quest mob boss 10 times or more 3 nights ago.

I have lots of trouble with the mob bosses at the end of quest lines. Usually its a death or 3 to figure out the mechanic or alter my skills. This time is no bueno. I am done for the most part.

Just going to mess around on alts until my sub runs out methinks.

Edit: swapped mess in for dlnk...did not know that was a bad word?

Tavore1138 · May 2014

Just to put HW questions to rest... Running a hex core i7, 32gb ram, nvidia 780ti, razer mouse, strike 7 keyboard, WD velociraptor drives and all the special super fans you can fit into my top end tower case...

And I still get lag on the EU server...

JosephChip · May 2014

Lag has nothing to do with hardware.

Brainzee · May 2014

tanthil wrote: »

maybe more ram then idk

As someone already mentioned, you clearly do not know.

Or in a way that your kind will understand, lolno.

I don't remember that particular boss but I have faced a few irritating healer types, usually hit or miss if you play from Europe, but they are by no means bugged.
If your latency is bad when doing these guys, you just have to spam that interrupt and eventually you'll get it done.

Also, you can change that terrible double mouse key biding to something a lot more convenient, like side keys on your mouse for example, or whatever keyboard key fits your playstyle.
Default bindings, like many things in that game, are average at best.

tanthil · May 2014

Brainzee wrote: »

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Or in a way that your kind will understand, lolno.

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Wow, that's fkn racist

MasterSpatula · May 2014

Full disclosure: I have not done this fight. But I did read this thread, which just made me sad.

After multiple people posted that they were attempting to interrupt the heals and the interrupts only worked sporadically, multiple other people came on and said, "Just interrupt the heals and stop whining."

I swear to God, the L2P crowd will waste no opportunity to try to make themselves look superior by belittling and demeaning others--even when the opportunity blatantly isn't there.

thebigMuh · May 2014

To make my previous poster a little less sad, here's a strategy that worked well for me. I actually remember her as one of the easier fights - but as melee templar I'm conditioned to interrupt pretty much everything, otherwise I'm dead

Also, all of this is "if I remember correctly" info, as it's been a while since I killed her.

She has three spells you can interrupt:
- A channeled self-heal
- A damage spell (can't remember what that does)
- A massive heal, similar to the templar ultimate heal

Get right into her face and smack her with whatever attacks you have. Don't spend any stamina. She will alternatively cast her heal (has to be interrupted ASAP) and her damage spell (don't interrupt this unless you have huge stamina reserves).

Slowly knock her down. At low HP (less than 50% or so?) she will cast her ultimate once. Also interrupt this as quickly as possible, or she heals back to 100% and pretty much resets the fight.

The fire atronach helps to slowly kill her.

Notice that I was able to kill her even though my dps as 2h templar is pathetic, and I'm playing from the EU, so I have huge lag (the heal usually ticked twice before the server recognized that I interrupted it). I also wasn't able to spend a lot of my Magicka on damaging her, I needed it for healing back up. I pretty much killed her using only my light attacks

Be tenacious, and good luck.

Ciao, Muh!

Covyn · May 2014

Just wait until you get to a trash mob in a VR8 zone that can chain cast insta crits for 2500 a pop....and ZoS states "Spell resist is working as intended". If you strip naked they hit you for the exact same amount

Ragekniv · May 2014

bac1969b16_ESO wrote: »

i have given up on my vr7 templar till they sort this *** out woke up read forums they said it fixed logged in dead 5 times in a row to a 3x pack of mobs instantly they either spamming their skills on me or are just hitting to hard i never had this issue when i went work got home downloaded patch and now i cannot do anything.
its the worst patching i have ever seen in any mmo tbh.

Good luck waiting for any balance of Templar!

Bots use them, therefore we must destroy the class!

All apparent inaction by Zenimax to resolve the class imbalance would suggest they don't care.

Roll an OP Sorc or DK or kick rocks on the edges of the ESO sandbox.

elorei · May 2014

Pele wrote: »

In case you were not aware, that is not how one interrupts in ESO.

Umm, yes it is.

EQBallzz · June 2014

Just did this fight on my VR9 NB. I don't know if it's lag or a buggy fight but she heals to full before you can even get off an interrupt. The interrupt was working but the heal was so fast it didn't matter. Can't even get her close to dead before running out of resources because she gets the heal off almost every time.

Hilgara · June 2014

Pull fat guy round the corner and kill him. Circle the other one and interrupt his casts. There is a common mechanic in this game where mobs with powerful abilities have to stop tracking you for half a second to cast. if you are circling while fighting all the time you never get hit because you always move out of the dead zone. Stuns work well as interrupts too so volcanic rune is a winner here.