VR 6 Nightblade solo Craglorn bosses video! Without invisible, stays full health
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Zakua✭✭✭Impressive to say the least. That build has some endurance, My ardent flame SnB DK would have deflated in both pools about 30 seconds into that fight lol. Games a coin toss for me in a 3 trash fight and certain death if two of them are ranged lol....this guy though...phew.2 -
Zaxq✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »
Remember, sometimes everything doesn't have to do with class, but some weapon combos, armor set bonuses and nonclass abilities being stronger than others.
And also remember: every class using bow/dual-wield builds are mediocre atm. Every class, including dks and sorcs.
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Can you at least learn to separate out the different content available in Craglorn?
DK soloed the 12 man trials, including bosses.
NB video soloed 4-man boss and shows nothing else (see comments above post)Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on May 31, 2014 1:20PM5 -
Bromburak✭✭✭✭✭I play with a similar build for crag content.
But instead innerlight i actually use cloak for a short dps stop and 100% crit on next action.
With my build it takes a bit longer because less crits overall during the whole fight but main reason is that i can avoid these severe health drops that you could see during the fight. You never know how many chances you get during a fight ... So to avoid multiple re tries i chose the safe way.
If veil of blades is not ready and you in a situation like 1:40 you actually appreciate when you could cloak.Edited by Bromburak on May 31, 2014 12:51PM0 -
Minsc✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »
Remember, sometimes everything doesn't have to do with class, but some weapon combos, armor set bonuses and nonclass abilities being stronger than others.
And also remember: every class using bow/dual-wield builds are mediocre atm. Every class, including dks and sorcs.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Spamming]
Can you at least learn to separate out the different content available in Craglorn?
DK soloed the 12 man trials, including bosses.
NB video soloed 4-man boss and shows nothing else (see comments above post)
Bosses?? Are you certain about that? because if that is not the case then you don't seem very credible and you just seem to just have a personal issue with monkeymysticEdited by ZOS_UlyssesW on May 31, 2014 1:20PM1 -
DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭Guys/gals, try to understand the ONLY reason Monkey is posting all this crap is to deflect ZoS from nerfing his DK main, that's it. He doesn't even understand the mechanics of the classes he's posting videos of, just "so-and-so solos something" so it has to be nerfed (you don't see him posting DK videos, like the one of a DK solo'ing a RAID).
And no, the video of a DK solo'ing Trails was trash only, not bosses.5 -
Minsc✭✭✭And you DeLindsay as well seem to be more focused, almost obsessed with the OP , instead with the actual videoEdited by Minsc on May 31, 2014 12:51PM0
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I'd just like to give this guy a slow clap, I mean I just copied this build completely because I have all the morphs and skill this guy has but it takes extreme amount of concentration and being able to throw down everything mechanically like that I'd suspect this guy was something like a computer, his executions are flawless.
Also being able to somehow getting in light attacks to siphon back magicka is no small feat especially considering he has all those mobs which only need to break his guard for no more than 3 seconds to destroy his lifebar, I didn't even realize he was light attacking.
I've currently got my sap essence down to 244 magicka for each use, at that level to make sure he's able to sustain his magicka he'd have to make sure he hits the enemies at least 2-3 times with light attacks after every sap essence.
Once again flawless execution on his behalf, very few NB's can actually pull this build off but against a craglorn boss even fewer still.1 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭Guys/gals, try to understand the ONLY reason Monkey is posting all this crap is to deflect ZoS from nerfing his DK main, that's it. He doesn't even understand the mechanics of the classes he's posting videos of, just "so-and-so solos something" so it has to be nerfed (you don't see him posting DK videos, like the one of a DK solo'ing a RAID).
And no, the video of a DK solo'ing Trails was trash only, not bosses.
I'm playing a Templar, which is VR 12 and I do rather well with as Destro/resto.
Before accusing me of stuff, maybe you should look further in this PvE section, and you will see my destro/resto Templar build with 4-5 pages..
And I do understand the mechanics very well, which is why I can do pretty strong stuff in both pvp and pve as a templar as well
Again check out my build if you want to see possibilities.2 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭
Can you atleast learn to get your facts straight?monkeymystic wrote: »
Remember, sometimes everything doesn't have to do with class, but some weapon combos, armor set bonuses and nonclass abilities being stronger than others.
And also remember: every class using bow/dual-wield builds are mediocre atm. Every class, including dks and sorcs.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Spamming]
Can you at least learn to separate out the different content available in Craglorn?
DK soloed the 12 man trials, including bosses.
NB video soloed 4-man boss and shows nothing else (see comments above post)
No, nobody has soloed 12 man bosses. Don't lie
The dk killed some trash, that's it.
Sorcerors have done the same, and a NB in my guild has soloed trial trash too.
Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on May 31, 2014 1:21PM1 -
Axewaffle✭✭✭Nightblades are op for abusing a buged resto staff skill now OP? not sure what your beef is against nightblades but like 90% of your posts are trying to get them nerfed, even when displaying broken mechanics of weapon lines, not class skills...0 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭Nightblades are op for abusing a buged resto staff skill now OP? not sure what your beef is against nightblades but like 90% of your posts are trying to get them nerfed, even when displaying broken mechanics of weapon lines, not class skills...
I have no beef with nightblades, im simply showing that they can solo stuff the same way as dks and sorcerors (destro/resto) from the video this guy made.
So you are saying if a dk and sorc can do it with destro/resto, the class is automatically OP, but when a NB does it, its fine? How does that make sense?Edited by monkeymystic on May 31, 2014 12:54PM3 -
Ysne58✭✭✭✭✭I hope the moderators come down on him for spamming the forums with this "issue".
Also it took that person 4 hours to get through that delve. Considering how long it has taken the other solos, that's something to keep in mind.3 -
DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭monkeymystic wrote: »I have no beef with nightblades, im simply showing that they can solo stuff the same way as dks and sorcerors (destro/resto) from the video this guy made.
Anything a NB can solo a Sorc and DK can solo absurdly faster.
Anything a Sorc can solo a DK can solo a little faster.
Anything a Templar can solo...2 -
You guys are definitely right, NB's are so fine right now that they are easily getting into trials grou- oh wait, no they aren't. In fact, they are being excluded from trials from any half decent group, as well as templars (or so I hear the templars are also getting excluded, but NB's definitely are). I don't even blame them for excluding NB's or templars when DK's and sorcerers do everything better, in every way, all the time.3
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monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »I have no beef with nightblades, im simply showing that they can solo stuff the same way as dks and sorcerors (destro/resto) from the video this guy made.
Anything a NB can solo a Sorc and DK can solo absurdly faster.
Anything a Sorc can solo a DK can solo a little faster.
Anything a Templar can solo...
I'm a templar myself, and believe me they can solo stuff too
You shouldn't base everything on how many youtube videos there are out showing it.
It's like everything is based around youtube videos, not actually using the brain and making a strong build and do it yourself.2 -
Axewaffle✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »Nightblades are op for abusing a buged resto staff skill now OP? not sure what your beef is against nightblades but like 90% of your posts are trying to get them nerfed, even when displaying broken mechanics of weapon lines, not class skills...
I have no beef with nightblades, im simply showing that they can solo stuff the same way as dks and sorcerors (destro/resto) from the video this guy made.
So you are saying if a dk and sorc can do it with destro/resto, the class is automatically OP, but when a NB does it, its fine? How does that make sense?
Ok, I understand. I didn't see the other *** posts about sorcs/dks doing this same thing. Still, I hope you know it isnt nightblades complaining that they cant do it either, the nightblade complaints are unrelated to these stupid videos of broken skills.1 -
DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭monkeymystic wrote: »I'm a templar myself, and believe me they can solo stuff too
You shouldn't base everything on how many youtube videos there are out showing it.
It's like everything is based around youtube videos, not actually using the brain and making a strong build and do it yourself.
But that's what ALL of your threads are about, linking Youtube videos showing how OP so-and-so is without taking any care into understanding the mechanic behind the build in the video lol.3 -
Bromburak✭✭✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »p.hurst1b16_ESO wrote: »This should be compulsory viewing for all the NB QQ posters.
Problem is that many NB players run around with bow/dualwield, and don't realise it's the destro/resto combo that makes high dps and stuff like this possible.
Wrong, its not Destro and the dps is not coming from staffs, you might should watch your own videos and ask if you don't understand them ...
The "secret" is sap essence combined with inner light and veil of blades.
Only active def thing you really need is spamming combat prayer and quick siphon to stay in the game.
Actually a great build that proves that only healing staff is required and not a staff combo!
But this is as it should be on a long run, cause you drive a tanky build with veil of blades on slot 1 and on second slot you have "heal spec".
Nothing wrong with that and every class profits from tank/heal/buff build.
But this doesnt mean he is running around with this build 24/7 its just an option for tough content.
Edited by Bromburak on May 31, 2014 1:19PM1 -
I'm just going to throw this out there but this isn't possible on many other bosses, this build works like a gem on mobs but on a single boss this build is horrible, not enough DPS and you'll not get enough ultimate back on each use of sap essence completely draining your magicka, you'll also need to activate siphon strikes thus reducing all damage you do by 22% making it so that Sap essence will merely push your DPS to 200.
There are too many situations where this build just isn't viable, the main problem being that you have to use light armour to make this build work so you can get the incredible spell reduction. This makes you squishy so that the moment you stop blocking, run out of stamina, run out of magicka you'll need to stop blocking so you can siphon back resources but the moment you do that you run the risk of instantly dying to whatever you have attacking you.1 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »I'm a templar myself, and believe me they can solo stuff too
You shouldn't base everything on how many youtube videos there are out showing it.
It's like everything is based around youtube videos, not actually using the brain and making a strong build and do it yourself.
But that's what ALL of your threads are about, linking Youtube videos showing how OP so-and-so is without taking any care into understanding the mechanic behind the build in the video lol.
Where did I say that nightblades are OP when doing this?
Where did I say that sorcerors were OP when soloing it?
I'm simply showing people what is possible, so maybe some learn from the builds in the videos instead of writing crythreads on how useless they are or how "OP" other classes are because they use destro/resto.
Sounds to me that YOU don't understand the mechanics behind all these solo videos, since the mechanics is exactly the point of me making the post.
To show that destro/resto is the superior combo for every class (even if NB can abuse some other nonweapon abilities too), and that other weapon combos needs tuning to get up to the same level. And also showing that weapon combos, armor set bonuses and nonclass abilities is not the same as a "class" being automatically OP..
You don't see that point I'm making?
Stalk someone else please.Edited by monkeymystic on May 31, 2014 1:17PM2 -
Axewaffle✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »p.hurst1b16_ESO wrote: »This should be compulsory viewing for all the NB QQ posters.
Problem is that many NB players run around with bow/dualwield, and don't realise it's the destro/resto combo that makes high dps and stuff like this possible.
Wrong, its not Destro and the dps is not coming from staffs, you might should watch your own videos and ask if you don't understand them ...
Sap essence combined with inner light and veil of blades.
Only thing you really need is spamming combat prayer and quick siphon to stay in the game.
Actually a great build that proves that destro is not required!
The build is more OP without veil of blades and instead using the vampire ult, it costs enough ultimate that you can have it active almost 70% of the fight due to the increased ultimate returns on siphoning abilities and sap essence granting ultimate from both its damage and healing done... so... this isnt even the fastest way to clear aoe mobs...
Spam Sap essence, cast vamp ult whenever its up. You win. Oh dont forget to add in quick siphon for ungodly healing buff.Edited by Axewaffle on May 31, 2014 1:16PM0 -
DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭monkeymystic wrote: »
Where did I say that nightblades are OP when doing this?
Where did I say that sorcerors were OP when soloing it?
I'm simply showing people what is possible, so maybe some learn from the builds in the videos instead of writing crythreads on how useless they are or how "OP" other classes are because they use destro/resto.
Sounds to me that YOU don't understand the mechanics behind these videos, since the mechanics is exactly the point of me making the post.
To show that destro/resto is the superior combo for every class, and that other weapon combos needs tuning to get up to the same level. And also showing that weapon combos, armor set bonuses and nonclass abilities is not the same as a "class" being automatically OP..
You don't see that point I'm making?
Stalk someone else please.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100354/video-of-nightblade-soloing-vr-spindleclutch-dungeon/p1
This is just ONE example of MULTIPLE threads you've made where you saw a Youtube video of some class/build and repeatedly are begging ZoS to nerf it, remove it, fix it as it "Just cannot be allowed to happen".3 -
Bromburak✭✭✭✭✭@Axewaffle
This is not about stupid vamps, its about the build he is playing!
Go ahead with your Vamp build, not required tho.Edited by Bromburak on May 31, 2014 1:24PM0 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »
Where did I say that nightblades are OP when doing this?
Where did I say that sorcerors were OP when soloing it?
I'm simply showing people what is possible, so maybe some learn from the builds in the videos instead of writing crythreads on how useless they are or how "OP" other classes are because they use destro/resto.
Sounds to me that YOU don't understand the mechanics behind these videos, since the mechanics is exactly the point of me making the post.
To show that destro/resto is the superior combo for every class, and that other weapon combos needs tuning to get up to the same level. And also showing that weapon combos, armor set bonuses and nonclass abilities is not the same as a "class" being automatically OP..
You don't see that point I'm making?
Stalk someone else please.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100354/video-of-nightblade-soloing-vr-spindleclutch-dungeon/p1
This is just ONE example of MULTIPLE threads you've made where you saw a Youtube video of some class/build and repeatedly are begging ZoS to nerf it, remove it, fix it as it "Just cannot be allowed to happen".
That was an exploit/bug, where NBs could spam cloak and "reset" mobs and bosses do death..
You seriously saying this shouldn't be fixed?
Why would you be interested in keeping an exploit in the game?...
Would you argue on someone making a thread about fixing caltrops too?
Look at this with non-NB eyes please....
And you are aware that you spend your time on stalking me, right? If you really want to waste time doing that, go ahead lolEdited by monkeymystic on May 31, 2014 1:25PM3 -
monkeymystic wrote: »p.hurst1b16_ESO wrote: »This should be compulsory viewing for all the NB QQ posters.
Problem is that many NB players run around with bow/dualwield, and don't realise it's the destro/resto combo that makes high dps and stuff like this possible.
Wrong, its not Destro and the dps is not coming from staffs, you might should watch your own videos and ask if you don't understand them ...
Sap essence combined with inner light and veil of blades.
Only thing you really need is spamming combat prayer and quick siphon to stay in the game.
Actually a great build that proves that destro is not required!
The build is more OP without veil of blades and instead using the vampire ult, it costs enough ultimate that you can have it active almost 70% of the fight due to the increased ultimate returns on siphoning abilities and sap essence granting ultimate from both its damage and healing done... so... this isnt even the fastest way to clear aoe mobs...
Spam Sap essence, cast vamp ult whenever its up. You win. Oh dont forget to add in quick siphon for ungodly healing buff.
Devouring swarm stays up for 5 seconds and Veil of Blades stays up for 17.3 seconds with the passives to increase shadow skill duration, veil of blades mitigates damage therfore it's a more popular choice I've been one hit by some bosses in craglorn for 2.7k devouring swarm just can't heal dead so veil of blades is the more popular choice because it sustains you for longer and deals steady DPS over a longer period of time and makes it so he can have a rest period where he can recover.
Because of Siphon strikes he'd actually be doing very little damage with devouring swarm but his build relies on Siphon strikes.0 -
Sunrock✭✭✭Any class that use the 5th skill in Restoration staff.. Siphon (somthing). can solo bosses. Its very powerfull skill as you get allot of HP back each time you hit a mob with that on. Put that on two, three mobs and you are invincible.
PS: Quick Siphon for instant cast or Siphon spirit for healing magica too
PPS: No matter what class you are if you have healing staff and a flame staff you are unstoppable while soloing.Edited by Sunrock on May 31, 2014 1:33PM2 -
subecsanur✭✭✭Good job on the effort, few close death moments there.MonkeyMystic AGAIN? who would have thought eh?
1. NB is in a 4 man dungeon. The DK video was a DK soloing the TRIALS. 12 man content. Apples and Oranges.
2. The NB has a gimmick spec that will only work on 1 or 2 boss encounters. That spec won't work in a ton of content. That NB would get destroy by trash in some dungeons. The DK/Sorc specs wouldnt.
3. NB is popping potions like candy for the fight duration for additional heals. Sorcs/DKs dont need to do that.
4. NB survives due to ultimate spam and sap essence. It is EXTREMELY situational. It only works due to the very low damage the mobs hit him for (which is reduced by block+Ultimate of course). Once he takes a couple of decent hits he has to switch to heals which annihilates ALL his mana in seconds and isnt sustainable. He is very lucky not to die at this point and rescues it. Well played, but I suspect he dies as often as he wins on this fight.
5. NB takes an eternity to kill anything, due to having to block for the entire fight. DK/Sorc dont have this issue.
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And yes unfortunately many NB's in the end have gone this way and still not even close, so Resto NB for heals maybe even is the ok way for trials.
Edited by subecsanur on May 31, 2014 1:39PM0 -
Still_Mind✭✭✭Nice video. Grateful to the guy for keeping his combat log open. Learned a bit from it. What's the "Sap will" effect, by the way?"I'm not *giving* him cake, I'm *assaulting* him with cake!"0 -
It's the heal from sap essence, it can crit. You can choose to go with the power essence morph but if you do that you'll miss out on the heal.Still_Mind wrote: »Nice video. Grateful to the guy for keeping his combat log open. Learned a bit from it. What's the "Sap will" effect, by the way?
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