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Difficulty on Dark Souls standarts

Iniesta
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I tried, really hard to tackle the open world mobs on V4 specially the one's like the 3 man caster groups .....i die in seconds ...no matter what skills i use .
Took off ...tried somewhere else , another quest different mobs & groups
booom! dirtnap.
I had so much fun before this Cragfart shiz...all down the drain ....cant tell you how sad iam.
Now im starting to suspect that Eso's whole play the way you like advertisement is a fraud, specially with the current patch ongoing.The Elite guilds of course have a big laugh cuz they dont want solo players anyhow ....they want ppl join em and then turn em into whatever shape of character (toonwise) is needed.

Im exhausted and im gonna cancel my sub today.
And being sure of getting nasty -cynical close to insulting responses from some here
let me remind you : empathy is a virtue
  • JosephChip
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    Recognizing that the problem lies with you, trying to use your brain and improve to overcome challenges is also a virtue. A very rare virtue, sadly.
  • Iniesta
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    you didnt even care to read any further than the header , right?
    overcoming a challange is one thing ...but sheer insanity another. I guess whats left for you to overcome is ignorance and denial
  • Drasn
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    Good bye.

    Or if you are asking for help in a convoluted way, you should state why you are having issues(class, armor type, weapon choice). Then, maybe someone would be kind enough to help you. All of the content is soloable up until craglorn, and even then some builds can do it.

    Play the way you want does not mean you are guaranteed to excel.
  • Iniesta
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    you know thomas im not delusional.. nor do i play drunk or on drugs. and no matter how often you guys state from your perspective bout skill and what a player should be able to handle on its own is a egomaniac view , doesnt apply to everyone.
    i pay the same $$
    all i want is being able to play the friggin open world .


  • Iniesta
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    Iniesta wrote: »
    you know thomas im not delusional.. nor do i play drunk or on drugs. and no matter how often you guys state from your perspective bout skill and what a player should be able to handle on its own is a egomaniac view , doesnt apply to everyone.
    i pay the same $$
    all i want is being able to play the friggin open world .

    how did i make it to V4 post patch then ?????


  • Drasn
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    Iniesta wrote: »
    you know thomas im not delusional.. nor do i play drunk or on drugs. and no matter how often you guys state from your perspective bout skill and what a player should be able to handle on its own is a egomaniac view , doesnt apply to everyone.
    i pay the same $$
    all i want is being able to play the friggin open world .


    Defensive much? All content is soloable with pretty much any build(craglorn zone and group instances being the exception). No one can give you advice or even try to help you when all we see is "OMG WTF game iz hardz, i quit!!!"
  • Erock25
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    You're obviously a child or lacking basic intelligence to post the way you do. I will assume that is why you are having problems with the game.
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  • Ohioastro
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    If you want suggestions or help, please post your class, level, build. Which sorts of opponents are you having trouble with? Are you using crowd control to park some mobs out of range? Are you taking out the most dangerous ones first?

    If this is a quitting post - well, they'll close it as part of their policy, and there is a good reason for that. If you want to let them know send them /feedback in game; this is your best chance at influencing policy.
  • Dayv
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    JosephChip wrote: »
    Recognizing that the problem lies with you, trying to use your brain and improve to overcome challenges is also a virtue. A very rare virtue, sadly.

    Using my brain tells me that the scaling algorithm they've used for VR is almost certainly not working the way ZOS would have intended for a mass market game. In one to 50 you get more powerful all the time. When you get to the fourth region where you are facing more large groups packed tighter together this increasing power mitigates this, but in VR, you are getting increasing weaker in relative terms yet pack density is increasing. I feel what the OP is going through, when I got to VR4 Bangkorai I was at a complete loss. I did manage to slowly and painfully find a spec that worked as I worked out that stupid trash mobs are hitting so hard that armours and resistances are virtually meaningless and don't scale against the damage you're facing. The only thing that does scale with it is zero. In other words, take zero damage by performing lots of cc. Lots of cc requires lots of magicka, therefore, go cloth and staff. I can survive now reasonably well, but with everything being so hard there's no variation - there's hard and hard. Overcoming this challenge hasn't really brought me much pleasure, it's felt like a grind. VR5, VR6 and VR7 have been a bit of respite from the pack scaling on VR4, but I'm really not looking forward to VR 8 and 9.

    I don't understand why people are so blind to the fact the ZOS have never tested the difficulty gradient of VR properly and believe it's intended to be this hard and come out with stuff like "It's not for soloing" or "It's supposed to be a challenge L2P noobzor!". People at VR now are not casuals, they've put in a hell of a lot of hours in the few weeks this game has been out.
    Edited by Dayv on May 30, 2014 5:22PM
  • Iniesta
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    Erock25 go on insult is insult , im lacking basic intelligence? you lacking every aspect of social behaviour ...actually you should play perma solo 24/7.And be carefull questioning anothers Intelligence you might find more than an equal
  • Gedalya
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    Iniesta wrote: »
    I tried, really hard to tackle the open world mobs on V4 specially the one's like the 3 man caster groups .....i die in seconds ...no matter what skills i use .
    Took off ...tried somewhere else , another quest different mobs & groups
    booom! dirtnap.
    I had so much fun before this Cragfart shiz...all down the drain ....cant tell you how sad iam.
    Now im starting to suspect that Eso's whole play the way you like advertisement is a fraud, specially with the current patch ongoing.The Elite guilds of course have a big laugh cuz they dont want solo players anyhow ....they want ppl join em and then turn em into whatever shape of character (toonwise) is needed.

    Im exhausted and im gonna cancel my sub today.
    And being sure of getting nasty -cynical close to insulting responses from some here
    let me remind you : empathy is a virtue

    You mention advertising but perhaps you didn't read the Cragfart advertising which stated fairly clearly that this "Adventure Zone" and others that will be like it are for groups and not solo play. While I would enjoy a solo component also, there are solo and group components for a game like this.
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  • hk11
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    I see that everyone is using direct attacks against the OP instead of debating. Classy.
  • Iniesta
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    Ohioastro wrote: »
    If you want suggestions or help, please post your class, level, build. Which sorts of opponents are you having trouble with? Are you using crowd control to park some mobs out of range? Are you taking out the most dangerous ones first?

    If this is a quitting post - well, they'll close it as part of their policy, and there is a good reason for that. If you want to let them know send them /feedback in game; this is your best chance at influencing policy.

    See Ohio its not that i havent tried >
    Point is i dont wanna be forced into group play ...and you should know urself
    its mostly not possible on open world bc everyones progress is a different one .
    And hand on heard most guilds have their inner circle , in wich they do the challenges ect . Youre not in that circle youre a bystander simple as that . you dont bring 5 hours gametime to the table youre a bystander .
    So whats left ?
    Gimme the opportunity to struggle on my own ... i never said make it easy
    But what has come with the patch is for masochists

  • jdoe
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    hk11 wrote: »
    I see that everyone is using direct attacks against the OP instead of debating. Classy.

    To be fair, I've watched a lot of debates, and even participated in a few. They usually don't begin with sentiments like "Cragfart shiz" and "im gonna cancel my sub today.".
  • JosephChip
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    Iniesta wrote: »
    you didnt even care to read any further than the header , right?
    overcoming a challange is one thing ...but sheer insanity another. I guess whats left for you to overcome is ignorance and denial

    I read your whole post. It doesn't take much, it's just a few lines.
    Ignorance and denial? I played through all veteran content solo. It's not insane. I guess ignorance and denial are some good words that apply to you.
    Also you blame the Craglorn patch. Not sure why. It didn't change anything.
    Edited by JosephChip on May 30, 2014 5:57PM
  • gladen5rwb17_ESO
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    When a person says, "Let me remind you, empathy if a virtue" and every poster understands the intent of the OP's post, you then do exactly the opposite.

    Attack and criticize. I understood the post quite clearly. Perhaps the grammar was not quite correct, the spelling, but so what. No one is perfect.

    Not everyone wants to group. I know that ESO said this content was intended for grouping, but many did not expected open world content to be a part of veteran leveling. I know most expected the Adventure zones to be for grouping, new dungeons too. So it is little surprise that so many are posting their utter dismay at having to group in open world where it simply does not belong.

    I agree with the OP, because I like to solo my way exploring new lands and territories.
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    Hey there, @Iniesta. Do you mind letting us know what megaserver you're on, what region you're in, and the monster names so that we can properly investigate? We know that this can be frustrating, and appreciate your patience.

    Also, we'd like to remind folks to make sure your posts stay in line with our forum Code of Conduct and refrain from attacking other players. We understand that sometimes folks will disagree with each other, but we do ask that everyone keep there comments civil.
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  • JosephChip
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    I don't know what some people are smoking. VR content is not for groups. It is meant for solo play. You need groups for group dungeons, anchors and world bosses. Questing and exploring are balanced for a single player.
    I don't know, some people just go on and on talking about things that exist only in their own imaginary reality.
  • Falmer
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    Veteran content isn't for all people probably. I personally would rather level up 6 different characters in all the alliances from 1-50 than do even a single Veteran zone.

    If you haven't experienced the other zones... try starting over with a new character rather than try to pursue the content through Veteran levels.

    For me, that is FAR more enjoyable. I will be interested to see what Zeni ever intends to do with customers like me though. How are they ever going to expand to new areas without dividing their customers into two separate groups?
  • Drasn
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    JosephChip wrote: »
    I don't know what some people are smoking. VR content is not for groups. It is meant for solo play. You need groups for group dungeons, anchors and world bosses. Questing and exploring are balanced for a single player.
    I don't know, some people just go on and on talking about things that exist only in their own imaginary reality.

    I honestly think a lot of it has to do with people not understanding the combat mechanics of the game. You need to block/dodge/interrupt in a game like this. In 1-50 content they really didn't have to do this, you could just eat most damage and be fine, but in Vet content you have to do these things or it doesn't end well.

    Old school mmo guys aren't used to action oriented combat and some just refuse to change and want to brute force everything. Single player ES guys have a difficulty bar that they can change when it gets rough, not so much in an MMO.

    The other problem is that people are taking "Play the way you want" to mean that if they want to run around naked and punch everything to death then they should be able to. (Okay maybe not to that extreme, but I think you get what I'm saying.)
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    I agree with the OP, because I like to solo my way exploring new lands and territories.

    Totally not trying to belittle you or give you any l2p garbage, but what class are you, and where are you having difficulty? I couldn't progress much for the few hours that the patch mega-buffed everything, but I haven't had much difficulty since. I'm a V5, and never group - I mean never. I still have yet to complete any of the group dungeons (outside of the first and second non-vet tier which I just recently soloed).

    In each zone there is usually an 'open world', public group dungeon (for instance, in Eastmarch it's called Halls of the Dead). Other than those, and the open world bosses, it should (or at least is designed to be) solo-able. If you are having extreme difficulty outside of those areas, it could be a bug (which is why Tristan asked you where).

    In the VET zones, I did have to mix up my play style a bit. For example, if it's a three pack and one of them is a sorcerer, I must take that person out first. I also learned to use my defensive abilities much more. As an example, all of those skills that are like (+1000 armor for 6 seconds), pre-50 I never used them, and in Vet zones I make much more frequent use of them. Also, planning out and building up my ultimates to use them in certain conditions.
  • Iniesta
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    Falmer wrote: »
    Veteran content isn't for all people probably. I personally would rather level up 6 different characters in all the alliances from 1-50 than do even a single Veteran zone.

    If you haven't experienced the other zones... try starting over with a new character rather than try to pursue the content through Veteran levels.

    For me, that is FAR more enjoyable. I will be interested to see what Zeni ever intends to do with customers like me though. How are they ever going to expand to new areas without dividing their customers into two separate groups?

    thats not what this post is about...i havent spend countless hours into my char ...only to see that its getting disassembled all the time . And it should be doable instead of barley doable
    Edited by Iniesta on May 30, 2014 6:15PM
  • Drasn
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    Iniesta wrote: »
    Falmer wrote: »
    Veteran content isn't for all people probably. I personally would rather level up 6 different characters in all the alliances from 1-50 than do even a single Veteran zone.

    If you haven't experienced the other zones... try starting over with a new character rather than try to pursue the content through Veteran levels.

    For me, that is FAR more enjoyable. I will be interested to see what Zeni ever intends to do with customers like me though. How are they ever going to expand to new areas without dividing their customers into two separate groups?

    thats not what this post is about...i havent spend countless hours into my char ...only to see that its getting disassembled all the time . And it should be doable instead of barley doable

    You still haven't shared any info about your character/playstyle other than you are V4. What zone are you messing around in that is causing the issue? What class are you? What skills do you use? What type of armor do you wear?

    People would try their best to help you, if you would give some information to work with.
  • Iniesta
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    JosephChip wrote: »
    I don't know what some people are smoking. VR content is not for groups. It is meant for solo play. You need groups for group dungeons, anchors and world bosses. Questing and exploring are balanced for a single player.
    I don't know, some people just go on and on talking about things that exist only in their own imaginary reality.

    are you aware that you keep insulting people , and as an OP me constantly ?
    and you keep doing it in a more sinister way than cursing


    Edited by Iniesta on May 30, 2014 6:30PM
  • JosephChip
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    Iniesta wrote: »
    JosephChip wrote: »
    I don't know what some people are smoking. VR content is not for groups. It is meant for solo play. You need groups for group dungeons, anchors and world bosses. Questing and exploring are balanced for a single player.
    I don't know, some people just go on and on talking about things that exist only in their own imaginary reality.

    are you aware that you keep insulting people , and as an OP me constantly ?
    and you keep doing it in a more sinister way than cursing


    There is not a single insult in my posts. The biggest insult to you are your own posts I believe.
  • Iniesta
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    im not discussing that with you ...its all written here.Nitpick whatever you want to defend your side ...but its in the open .
  • Iniesta
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    let me remind you...What did i smoke ? so you think im a drug user
    if that isnt an insult i dont know
    Edited by Iniesta on May 30, 2014 6:38PM
  • Drasn
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    Iniesta wrote: »
    im not discussing that with you ...its all written here.Nitpick whatever you want to defend your side ...but its in the open .

    I tried being decent, but I'm going to call this what it is : Have fun in your next endeavor because this game isn't for you.
  • Iniesta
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    oh and one last thing ....
    was the game too easy pre patch ?...was it a walk in the park ?
    was its under the rule of god anoobis? was it ?
  • Drasn
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    Iniesta wrote: »
    oh and one last thing ....
    was the game too easy pre patch ?...was it a walk in the park ?
    was its under the rule of god anoobis? was it ?

    They had a bug after the patch that buffed mobs. They fixed that, mobs are the same now as they were before the patch.
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