I'm with you on not liking anime. I do like cartoony undead though

Khandi wrote: »

Here is a fresh look at things:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/28/5-reasons-disillusioned-mmo-fans-should-believe-in-wildstar

Once Wildstar goes F2P, I may give it a try.

dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »

Comparison of the games, what they offer etc. won't really mean a lot. The customer base will fall into a few general categories. Those that actually dislike ESO have already quit. Those that try most games will try WS etc as they come out no matter what they think of ESO. First timer of MMO's and fanbois will stick with ESO no matter what. There is a small percentage who like ESO but are frustrated with (insert dislike here) who may try another game and leave ESO because they like it better

Example. Over the years with every big name MMO release there is always the inevitable thread about it being "The WoW Killer". Of course none have any lasting effect on WoW. People leave a game because they dislike it or are simply bored after extended period of time. WS will have little effect on the players that are enjoying ESO. people may leave ESO for any number of other reasons however

It's a little disheartening to be labeled in with 'first timers' and 'fanbois', to be honest.

I'll stick with ESO. It has all the same problems of every other MMO out there, but I honestly feel the development team is responding far faster than I've seen anywhere else. I mean, the game has been out two months and we've gotten a solid bug-fix patch each week and one new content release already.

I also love the graphics and the lore. I don't know Zenimax from anyone else, and if I had my preference, I would enjoy the Dungeons-and-Dragons Neverwinter campaign setting more (but I'm not a fan of how Perfect World/Cryptic has handled things).

I've got no other MMO's that interest me on the horizon, and nothing but improvements to ESO to look forward to (I'm not under the impression that all development on ESO is going to stop, which so many others seem to have). And possibly a console move, if that looks entertaining enough.

Only ZOS can kill ESO. If it's a good game then players will play it.

Hated cartoony graphics. Which is why I never played wow other then the few times but couldn never get into it cause fo those graphics.

This is why Warhammer online was my frist MMO.

Stuck with it untill it died. The art style, the RVR, the PVP. AMAZING. Although the game kinda went downhill once ea bought mystic.

After that I went to Rift and played for a while but after so often I would get bored of it and leave for a couple months to come back and such.

I aso played SWTOR. I liked it but didn't play it as much as i should have. I loved grouping aspect. PVP whatever they where called in SWTOR. The hut ball game was fun. :P It's an ok game but im not really much into scy fi space type game. (maybe is it was mass effect i would have been)

ESO I will stick with till it either ends or goes to FTP. Which I hope will be never. ESO has so much potential I just hope the devs realize that. Don't ignore the communtiy and explain to us your plans like you guys have been doing.

As for wildstar I woun't even touch the game. The graphics, the races, and the classes, no thank you.

anonymousshadow613b16_ESO wrote: »

Hated cartoony graphics. Which is why I never played wow other then the few times but couldn never get into it cause fo those graphics.

This is why Warhammer online was my frist MMO.

Stuck with it untill it died. The art style, the RVR, the PVP. AMAZING. Although the game kinda went downhill once ea bought mystic.

After that I went to Rift and played for a while but after so often I would get bored of it and leave for a couple months to come back and such.

I aso played SWTOR. I liked it but didn't play it as much as i should have. I loved grouping aspect. PVP whatever they where called in SWTOR. The hut ball game was fun. :P It's an ok game but im not really much into scy fi space type game. (maybe is it was mass effect i would have been)

ESO I will stick with till it either ends or goes to FTP. Which I hope will be never. ESO has so much potential I just hope the devs realize that. Don't ignore the communtiy and explain to us your plans like you guys have been doing.

As for wildstar I woun't even touch the game. The graphics, the races, and the classes, no thank you.

No offense meant but playing a cat, lizard or a werewolf isn't 'cartoony'? I beg to differ.

GreySix wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Khandi wrote: »

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

It'll go the way of STO. FTP after being bought by another company unless Zen pull their fingers out.

Maybe they want it to go F2P. There is a lot of money to be made with the F2P model.

Nothing to buy, F2P model requires a reason to spend cash.

Well, folks are buying gold like its going out of style, else we'd not be seeing so many obvious bots about.

I know, but apart from the Motifs and the Horses, what is there to buy??

And with motifs becoming more common, why buy them??

Seriously I haven't bought any Motifs yet, and don't plan to, hoping to catch an Altmer Motif or Bosmer Motif for my Khajiit tomorrow. <fingers crossed>

Thulsola wrote: »

Having said all of that, I am an early investor in Star Citizen, and I suspect that when it is released the amount of time I have for any other game - or life, for that matter - will be greatly reduced.

That's not an MMO, though, is it?

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Khandi wrote: »

anonymousshadow613b16_ESO wrote: »

Hated cartoony graphics. Which is why I never played wow other then the few times but couldn never get into it cause fo those graphics.

This is why Warhammer online was my frist MMO.

Stuck with it untill it died. The art style, the RVR, the PVP. AMAZING. Although the game kinda went downhill once ea bought mystic.

After that I went to Rift and played for a while but after so often I would get bored of it and leave for a couple months to come back and such.

I aso played SWTOR. I liked it but didn't play it as much as i should have. I loved grouping aspect. PVP whatever they where called in SWTOR. The hut ball game was fun. :P It's an ok game but im not really much into scy fi space type game. (maybe is it was mass effect i would have been)

ESO I will stick with till it either ends or goes to FTP. Which I hope will be never. ESO has so much potential I just hope the devs realize that. Don't ignore the communtiy and explain to us your plans like you guys have been doing.

As for wildstar I woun't even touch the game. The graphics, the races, and the classes, no thank you.

No offense meant but playing a cat, lizard or a werewolf isn't 'cartoony'? I beg to differ.

I reference 'cartoons' by ultra-bright colors, awkwardly sized character models, over the top weapons and armor models (seen a shield one time bigger than the character itself). Low polygon count to make the game playable on older machines.

Mostly, though, it's the color scheme and characters, the graphics, not necessarily the content.

Even by my line, SW:TOR lost my interest by looking too cartoonish for my tastes.

It took me a while to get into it because I said a lot of those things as well but when most of my friends left ESO and went to WS or Archage I took a hard look at what I wanted from a game....

.....which is what this thread is about. I really wanted to like ESO but I just can't with all the issues so I move on when my sub runs out in August and play WS because its fun, really really fun and then like you, I will be off looking towards the next horizon.

First off ESO is not a strong or even a good mmo. ESO is a victim of its own hype and press. ESO does have a solid and well liked story line. ESO does look AWESOME when working. Some very bad choices were made along the line and the resulting C.F. has almost ruined the mmo and now has an issue of fighting bad press in the market. 4 million hits on you webpage is well 4 million hits that doesn't mean your bullet proof nor does it mean your ready to release. Someone did the math of 4million x 60 bucks x15 a month and pulled the trigger. The lists of problems/crashes and shutdowns is well known. I bought early release and in right outside of daggerfall the monster made itself known. NPC's speaking german on an English server? after 4 years of development and months of beta? ZO embarrassed itself and its staff looks bad. The Geman speech was the warning bell of everything that followed. I wondered to my self if the QA team still had jobs and surely the project manager and his team were all unemployed by now or soon to be. Whats the point? we have to see of ZO can save itself of if we will find ourselves posting in new forums on another new mmo.

GeeYouWhy wrote: »

Only ZOS can kill ESO. If it's a good game then players will play it.

eso is alrdy death

Khandi wrote: »

anonymousshadow613b16_ESO wrote: »

Hated cartoony graphics. Which is why I never played wow other then the few times but couldn never get into it cause fo those graphics.

This is why Warhammer online was my frist MMO.

Stuck with it untill it died. The art style, the RVR, the PVP. AMAZING. Although the game kinda went downhill once ea bought mystic.

After that I went to Rift and played for a while but after so often I would get bored of it and leave for a couple months to come back and such.

I aso played SWTOR. I liked it but didn't play it as much as i should have. I loved grouping aspect. PVP whatever they where called in SWTOR. The hut ball game was fun. :P It's an ok game but im not really much into scy fi space type game. (maybe is it was mass effect i would have been)

ESO I will stick with till it either ends or goes to FTP. Which I hope will be never. ESO has so much potential I just hope the devs realize that. Don't ignore the communtiy and explain to us your plans like you guys have been doing.

As for wildstar I woun't even touch the game. The graphics, the races, and the classes, no thank you.

No offense meant but playing a cat, lizard or a werewolf isn't 'cartoony'? I beg to differ.

I'm talking about art style. ESO's art style in the game is not cartoony. My definition of cartoony would be wow of wildstar. I don't like games that look cartoony. just because you can be a cat,lizard, or werewolf doesn't make a game cartoony. There's another word for that and I think it's called fantasy.

I do not think ESO as currently designed has enough mass appeal to become a great game. It will lose more subs, and thus, it will lack the funding to bring it into greatness.

It has two niche players that don't have much in common: the solo RPG quester, and the realm pvp'er. At this time, the realm pvp'er (the more typical player in the MMO genre) holds his nose through all the questing, or skips it entirely and grinds mobs to max level - in order to pvp. The solo RPG quester plods through the utterly unending single player questing content happy to experience every nook and cranny of lore.

The typical MMO player - that likes to advance doing a little of everything, especially group content - will discover that the game does not support this most typical MMO playstyle, and will most likely cancel and keep checking back to find out if the devs have taken their collective heads out of their .... coffee cups.

In short, the current recipe is likely to find only limited success in this gaming genre.