Motif Market Crashed - Higher difficulty needed!

idk · May 2014

collegekevinsb14a_ESO wrote: »

People are finding a rare motif practically once per hour (Primal, Barbaric, Daedric, and/or Ancient Elf) and in some cases even faster. The Primal and Barbaric motifs were worth 75-90K gold... and now they can hardly be sold for 20K gold. Meanwhile Daedric and Ancient Elf were worth about 150K and 100K respectively... and now can hardly be sold at all due to vast amount of folks farming them up... they've gotten to the point they're being given away. So the market for those of us who were trying to gain a monetary foothold has been lost in this form. Can I get a response from Zenimax about the future of this issue?

Consider having to actually craft and peddle your crafts as the official answer. I speak as one who can and did look for the motifs on my own. Honestly, 150k for something in this game is out of place IMO.

Lazarus_Long · May 2014

On to a more important topic: Did you know that there is no cheese in Cheesemonger's Hollow?

Raash · May 2014

Laura wrote: »

It never should have been something you could log in and log out for. I think the mechanic sucked

but there need to be rare things in MMOs... I hate that people felt like they absolutely HAD to have the daedric motif.

The outcry from this I'm afraid will send a message to ZoS that all things should be handed to players.

No rare mounts no rare pets? Nothing to get excited about?

Kids, candy tastes sweeter when you earn it and the low hanging fruit is usually not as tasty.

Couldnt agree more.
I wish they had ALL motifs super rare so people only could craft their choosen race style, and be hunting for the other styles and get really excited with when they finally come by one of the others.
Read some time before release that crafters where going to have a major role in the comunity and that you could choose to focus on crafting and be lacking fighting skills etc. What did we get? Get as ast as possible to max vet rank and deconstruct highlevel gear= master crafter. Fricking joke of a crafting system!

Tavore1138 · May 2014

McDoogs wrote: »

It makes me sad to see so many people labeling anyone in game who is richer than them as either a botter, a gold buyer/seller, or an exploiter/cheater.

It's too bad that this angry mediocrity is a common attitude held by the MMO community.

I confess, I certainly suggested that those who had stacks of motifs may have used a game 'legal' but not particularly admirable technique to obtain those stacks of motifs.

I pretty much stand by it and would add that logging in & out repeatedly to gain something that way rather than by actually playing the game is an example of true mediocrity.

To people who have been fortunate enough to find a bunch during long hours of questing and dungeon clearing simply by opening every container they have encountered I say 'well done' and to them alone I have some mild sympathy if they do not make as much money as before.

gladen5rwb17_ESO · May 2014

Awesome. Now maybe I wont get as many bot mails trying to sell me Daedric motifs. Could not be happier.

AlexDougherty · May 2014

Raash wrote: »

I wish they had ALL motifs super rare so people only could craft their choosen race style, and be hunting for the other styles and get really excited with when they finally come by one of the others.

And I wish that all styles had been available to all players right from the start, so we could craft a look that suits our desires, not a restricted idea of what each race should wear.

gladen5rwb17_ESO · May 2014

delete

Lodestar · May 2014

collegekevinsb14a_ESO wrote: »

McDoogs wrote: »

But blue recipes drop like rain and I can see them nerfing them (they drop as commonly as motifs do).

Yeah I rest my case.

You rest your case on the chat in game and a few comments you cherry pick. You need more than that. Which is what I was saying in my first post.

I will say though, during early access, I did muse a little on how these motifs would lose value in a few months when so many have them, and have no need for them. We will see tons in guild banks or given away. I am seeing this with the less common ones already. This is going to happen at some stage.

Raash · May 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

I wish they had ALL motifs super rare so people only could craft their choosen race style, and be hunting for the other styles and get really excited with when they finally come by one of the others.

And I wish that all styles had been available to all players right from the start, so we could craft a look that suits our desires, not a restricted idea of what each race should wear.

yeah, you right... like an style merchant selling styles for 2-300 gold? And an offline mode to go with that so people dont need to interact for trading or being forced to buy what they cant craft themself aswell perhaps? No i dont agree at all.

I believe being forced to choose what to specialize on is a good way to enrich ingame market systems. but thats just my view.

Halrloprillalar · May 2014

collegekevinsb14a_ESO wrote: »

People are finding a rare motif practically once per hour (Primal, Barbaric, Daedric, and/or Ancient Elf) and in some cases even faster. The Primal and Barbaric motifs were worth 75-90K gold... and now they can hardly be sold for 20K gold. Meanwhile Daedric and Ancient Elf were worth about 150K and 100K respectively... and now can hardly be sold at all due to vast amount of folks farming them up... they've gotten to the point they're being given away. So the market for those of us who were trying to gain a monetary foothold has been lost in this form. Can I get a response from Zenimax about the future of this issue?

Sorry... wait... no.... not sorry, can't really find a *** to give. Sounds like your bid at monopoly games failed, and I can't help but feel a little bit of schadenfreude right now.

jkbennettb14a_ESO · May 2014

McDoogs wrote: »

It makes me sad to see so many people labeling anyone in game who is richer than them as either a botter, a gold buyer/seller, or an exploiter/cheater.

It's too bad that this angry mediocrity is a common attitude held by the MMO community.

That is the unfortunate side effect when your game is so overrun with exploiters and cheaters that everyone and their mom has seen at least one of these offenders.

On another note, don't really see what the big deal is with Daedric motif. When I see low levels running around in this stuff it's more of a "meh" feeling that washes over me. Really don't think it looks all that great. I certainly wouldn't pay for it, but to each their own.

Reminds me of the big diesel truck trend. I have a great idea (hey man hold my beer, I got this), let me take out a home equity loan and pay like 60k for a truck then dump another 40k+ of mods into it. Oh the housing market crashed? Guess I'm not moving for the next 30 years.

TLDR version: Status symbols are lame. People make really dumb life decisions to look "cool". You took advantage while you could, now it's done.

Edit: yay spelling!

Gwarok · May 2014

"Strive for balance of all things. When the scales tip to one side or the other, someone or somethings gets short-changed. When someone gets short-changed, unpredictability and strife unbalance the world around us...To achieve freedom from greed, from want, and from strife, all parties in any exchange MUST find balance." -House Hlaalu's Philosophy of Trade

The motif "scalpers" have lost this battle.

Lodestar · May 2014

McDoogs wrote: »

It makes me sad to see so many people labeling anyone in game who is richer than them as either a botter, a gold buyer/seller, or an exploiter/cheater.

It's too bad that this angry mediocrity is a common attitude held by the MMO community.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY

LunaRae · May 2014

Remember when the game FIRST launched a little over two months ago? Remember how regular motif's like Altmer, Argonian, etc.. were actually selling for 1-3k depending on the time. Now they're a dime a dozen and most of the population has the motifs they want (minus rare). Eventually most of the player base will have the rare motifs they want as well, and then no one will care. The only change I'd like to see is get rid of the grind zones for motifs - that's just stupid. When you hit VR1 content zones give X chance for finding rare crafting regents/motifs/etc.... It can be stupidly low, but at least there is incentive to play through some more.

Nitratas · May 2014

It's about time the marked crashed. It was ridiculous while it lasted. I kinda feel for all those merchanters who stacked them up hoping they can earn more + all the real money traders. You got SMACKED

Kaloran · May 2014

RylukShouja wrote: »

Besides, what the heck do you need 200k gold for?

To buy more motifs, of course!

Elad13 · May 2014

The motifs should not be so expensive but the mats should...yet I see people selling stacks of these for high $ and armor crafted in these styles are much more expensive. I guess you are upset you can't make 100k every time you farm for motifs???

ESO_Beta_Gamer · May 2014

Elad13 wrote: »

The motifs should not be so expensive but the mats should...yet I see people selling stacks of these for high $ and armor crafted in these styles are much more expensive. I guess you are upset you can't make 100k every time you farm for motifs???

Agreed... hell Voidstone is hardly worth more than Iron in most guild stores unless it's in ore form. If you have any form of metal ore... people will practically hump your leg to buy it off you... but the metal ingots are apparently worthless.

Arsenic_Touch · May 2014

collegekevinsb14a_ESO wrote: »

Elad13 wrote: »

The motifs should not be so expensive but the mats should...yet I see people selling stacks of these for high $ and armor crafted in these styles are much more expensive. I guess you are upset you can't make 100k every time you farm for motifs???

Agreed... hell Voidstone is hardly worth more than Iron in most guild stores unless it's in ore form. If you have any form of metal ore... people will practically hump your leg to buy it off you... but the metal ingots are apparently worthless.

Because ore is worth more, it serves two purposes. One, it can be refined for a chance at rare upgrade materials and two it can be made into ingots. Ingots can only be made into items and that's it. I'm not going to spend money on ingots when I can buy the ore and have a chance for upgrade materials and have the crafting materials needed to make an item.

OrangeTheCat · May 2014

This is a good thing. The fact that people were able to pay 100k+ gold makes me think they were buyers from gold sellers and such.

FrauPerchta · May 2014

I haven't found a motif since the container nerf and I loot everything. Hell I'd pick your pockets for loot if you could do it in ESO.

Kayira · May 2014

I am glad that motifs are affordable now. At last the gap between rich and poor doesn't widen more. Also motifs are usable items which are required for any kind of crafter. It would be an unfair advantage if one can't sell any of their crafted armor because they can't afford it or weren't lucky enough.

I would even take it further and make motifs bound. No money making out of it. I also hope they stop these vamp and WW bites for money. It is simply disgusting to see such rip off (was a lot worth in early days now it has calmed to 5k I think, still such money making behaviour. You literally *** your chars body for money! )

Ragekniv · May 2014

Thank you for the ensuing laughter upon reading your post, I damn near spit my drink out!

Frankly I'm over the moon. Motifs, rare or not, have been one of the prime banes of market economy in ESO.

Now if I could only make it to a timer nerfed node before a horde of undergound bots...

crislevin · May 2014

I'm not going to pay more than 10k For a motif. Not when they look ugly as sin.

Plus, i cant craft jekin anyway.

Fleymark · May 2014

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

Good. The prices were ridiculous.

^^

Spectrasoul · May 2014

collegekevinsb14a_ESO wrote: »

So the market for those of us who were trying to gain a monetary foothold has been lost in this form.

You absolute despicable scumbag. Good, I'm glad you can no longer hoard the market. People like you are a scourge in MMO's. Take your greed and go do something with it irl. Whatever you do.. leave my game with it's fair prices alone.

I'm a believer in fair trading, not falsely inflating the price of certain items.

Once again, please uninstall and leave this game. You scumbag.

badmojo · May 2014

LOL what kind of response from ZOS are you expecting? People finally realized that they're paying stupidly high amounts for items that aren't even that rare.

It's not their fault the gravy train came to an end.

jamesgiordaneb17_ESO · May 2014

Lazarus_Long wrote: »

On to a more important topic: Did you know that there is no cheese in Cheesemonger's Hollow?

WHAT! NO! I have been searching for cheese there for months

david271749 · May 2014

Yeah. I didn't see any of this last night. I hope it's true though. That's one less thing the bots and players like OP can use to take advantage of other players. Remember when bites sol for 50k? Now they're around 5k.

TLDR; OP, please uninstall.

sovreign · May 2014

collegekevinsb14a_ESO wrote: »

People are finding a rare motif practically once per hour (Primal, Barbaric, Daedric, and/or Ancient Elf) and in some cases even faster. The Primal and Barbaric motifs were worth 75-90K gold... and now they can hardly be sold for 20K gold. Meanwhile Daedric and Ancient Elf were worth about 150K and 100K respectively... and now can hardly be sold at all due to vast amount of folks farming them up... they've gotten to the point they're being given away. So the market for those of us who were trying to gain a monetary foothold has been lost in this form. Can I get a response from Zenimax about the future of this issue?

Wait.. Arn't YOU one of these 'people'

can't beat that logic.

happy selling bro.