Atreidus wrote: »

this harddrive check is the best you can do at this stuff. I am i the same boat like you are.
The rest is on Zenimax

It is some comfort at least to know I am not the only one in this boat

It's going to take hours to run chkdsk and reinstall everything, barely anything is working right now (I can't access my hard drives, can't run any games) and it looks as if I'm going to have to do a complete format/clean install of my entire system, which completely sucks. I just hope there's no hardware damage.

It's all very well saying that it's on Zenimax, but it's not as if they are going to come round here and sort it out or can magically grant me back the rest of my holiday weekend that I am going to spend fixing my computer instead of playing.

Not at all amused

This is unfortunate. Hopefully no harm has been done.

If you're unable to shut down your computer like that in the future, I suggest just manually turning it off, either by holding down the power button until it turns off, or even by unplugging it from the wall. This isn't the preferred way to shut down a computer, but overall it should be a safer way if your computer hangs for.. ever, possibly.

lao wrote: »

the more likely scenario is that ur hard drives had an issue which caused eso to crash rather than the other way around.

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Say that to my brand new computer. Please dont blame victims here.

It's unlikely the game was the direct cause of the issue. It's pretty had to bork a PC without maliciously coding it do to so. It may however be indirectly affecting the PC in the way it utilizes components, i.e. it may stress the CPU or GPU more than other games you've played. Or there may be allot more memory read/writes than normal causing your RAM to heat up more than expected etc... Another one not related to the game maybe issues with your hard-drive, a failing HDD or SSD will cause all sorts of issues.

The fact it's been freezing and crashing regularly may point to a heat related issue. Have you tried running HardwareMonitor or GPU-z while gaming, and monitoring the temperatures?

KracsNZ wrote: »

It's unlikely the game was the direct cause of the issue.
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It is highly likely, actually. Since the patch a lot of people have been experiencing hard crashes, including myself. Fortunately, most of us have not had any serious issues with our computers. It is quite possible that something got corrupted when his computer crashed, so I would consider that caused by the game.

I hope that they get a handle on this quickly. I am crashing about 10-12 times a day since the patch. And these are hard crashes, not the return to the log in screen ones.

Been playing for hours at a time nearly daily and never had hard crashes with ESO or any other games until the day of update so I do think something changed as a result. Too much coincidence.

Thats the thing,
The game is new and does indeed have its issues, so of course when something goes borked its easy to think the game broke it.
what a lot of people dont seem to be aware of is that, if it was the game causing a problem like this, there would be a lot more people with similar issue.

Also, since it is a pretty hefty game to run it does take a lot of resources to run it smoothly... a pc that might be calmly purring along playing wow, for example, would likely break into some serious sweat running this game. thats when problems with hardware will show.
so, yeah ok, the game may have been the trigger, but not necessarily the cause of the problem.

sorry to hear about your harddrive though. i lost 2 1TB harddrives last year in quick succession... since then i added more fans to my system.
the biggest killer to any PC is heat!!

So, and this cannot be stressed enough, always make sure to keep the insides clean from dust and provide ample cooling .

Niliu wrote: »

So a bunch of people with terrible/poor quality computers were getting away with playing before, and now that true fullscreen is live they're complaining that their terribad computers couldn't handle it.

Crysis crashed my computer a lot, then I upgraded. Simple as that.

I don't have a terrible computer, I have a fairly top end gaming rig. Apart from the dead HDD that is

KracsNZ wrote: »

It's unlikely the game was the direct cause of the issue. It's pretty had to bork a PC without maliciously coding it do to so. It may however be indirectly affecting the PC in the way it utilizes components, i.e. it may stress the CPU or GPU more than other games you've played. Or there may be allot more memory read/writes than normal causing your RAM to heat up more than expected etc... Another one not related to the game maybe issues with your hard-drive, a failing HDD or SSD will cause all sorts of issues.

The fact it's been freezing and crashing regularly may point to a heat related issue. Have you tried running HardwareMonitor or GPU-z while gaming, and monitoring the temperatures?

This. Stop blaming the game for everything. Your system is most likely not capable of running the game correctly. You should post your specs here so that people can offer assistance instead of raging about the issue and placing blame where it is most likely unwarranted.

You really are a judgemental bunch aren't you? I already apologised for making a mistake, what exactly do you want, a pound of flesh or something?

EDIT: @Zeeed - and I never said that ESO had broken hardware, initially thought that some data had been corrupted, which is entirely possible. And I have been building PCs for long enough (built my first in around 1989) that I'm not a complete idiot, and certainly not a noob - so take your rude comments elsewhere please.

Gaming software causing hardware to fail? Don't make me laugh you noobs. Games stress PCs and reveal what was already flawed with your PC in the first place.

Considering the OP mentions other software in his PC being affected, OP probably has a harddrive issue that has nothing to do with the game.

Don't blame the game when you don't even know what's causing your issues.

LONG STORY SHORT: OP already admitted it's a harddrive issue, nothing to see here, move along folks.

Epona222 wrote: »

You really are a judgemental bunch aren't you? I already apologised for making a mistake, what exactly do you want, a pound of flesh or something?

EDIT: @Zeeed - and I never said that ESO had broken hardware, initially thought that some data had been corrupted, which is entirely possible. And I have been building PCs for long enough (built my first in around 1989) that I'm not a complete idiot, and certainly not a noob - so take your rude comments elsewhere please.

I don't think they're attacking you specifically, well I hope not anyways. But good to hear you found the culprit, probably more a relief than anything I bet.

Sirvandal wrote: »

'Crashed' is on Zenimax. Had the same problem, lovely 2 x blue screen. After yesterdays small patch (sunday morning) no more crashes. They fixed the mem leak, probably caused by the window framed way of running the game change. Lot of players with AMD cards had the problems on old and new machines. Oh before I get all kinds of stories its still my machine, before the patch NO PROBLEMS at all.

This is a hard one. Like I said in a previous post, GPU is one area that can still cause issues, but isolating who is at fault is a real problem. I don't have much experience with OpenGL, nor writing for bare-metal, but mucking around with DirectX and shaders (mostly self-taught) I have caused myself allot of grief just because the stuff that looks like it should work as advertised, sometimes doesn't and needs workarounds.

Not saying Zenimax aren't blameless; since they wrote a custom engine for ESO likely lots of issues they'll have to work through, and likely they'll continue to break something in a driver version for a specific hardware generation, even a specific card (i.e. loading a custom shader for some on-screen effect etc...). Hate to think of the number of vendors, hardware generations and driver versions they have to test.

I know its a pain in the arse, but for at least one crash, submit a crash dump along with a dxdiag export (no idea the equivalent on Mac) so they know there is a crash happening for your specific hardware.