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Should the cost of a respec in EOS be drastically reduced
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Hciliata✭✭Reduce the cost of respecAny variant of 'no, it should be really hard/expensive/rare' (especially when combined with a reference to how awesomely difficult mugzor the incredible or whatever was 'back in the day') is a fine opinion,but a ridiculous position to impose on everyone else. You can go armorless. You can use weak weapons. You can buy expensive items and then just delete them if you feel like gold is too easy to come by. You can easily have it be as difficult as you want under any of the changes being proposed. No one is trying to reduce the mad respect we all duly feel about your eagerness to suffer while playing a fantasy video game. There are just many people who don't want to play that game. No one loses when everyone is happy. You can be happy under the proposed system. So can we. It's better when everyone is happy.
The 'there has to be a gold sink because there's so much gold' argument is also curious. If you don't have anything else to spend gold on besides respec, why do we need a sink? You are saying gold has no value anyway, so what purpose is served by having a sink? Useless gold is useless whether it has a sink or not. Feel free to send me your gold burden, I'll make sure to acknowledge in my reply that you are both hardcore and old school.2 -
YourNameHere✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecWith all the changes, indeed.
Give one free respec and perhaps cut the price by 25% or something afterwards.NA Megaserver / RPer
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mlecho74✭Reduce the cost of respecThe cost definitely needs to be reduced, if for no other reason than to allow experimentation. If I don't like the tank I've built, it shouldn't require my life's savings to change to a dps. If I want to try a healer, I shouldn't need a loan to do so. In GW2, I think (it's been awhile) the max is 2k gold for a respec. That should be the extent of it, in my opinion.1
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Dagus✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecmaybe have an option for 10 points at a time, and you HAVE to pick 10 things to reset?
i'd rather spend 2000 to fix 13 things than 8400 to fix 13 thingsRAWR!!!1 -
GFBStarWars✭✭✭Respec cost is fairRespect cost isn't a real issue for me, the issue is how respect work, it would be nice to leave the cost as it (100 per skill point) it but make it possible to respect only class skill or weapon skill or even only morph.1 -
Raeder✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecI'm about ready to unsub at this point. I've never considered unsubbing from a MMO this quickly before, but it doesn't seem ZOS can do what they need to do to keep me playing.
I've never been a rich character in this game. I didn't exploit the motifs farming, and I wanted to be a crafter, but because of what I consider poor itemization there are far too many resources for someone to craft and keep, so I spent a lot on bank increases.
No, I refuse to create alt mules. I shouldn't have to. It is bad game design and something I've never had to do in other MMOs.
So I hit VR12 last night and respeced... for 24k gold. I am now at 40k gold, so that was 1/3 of my money.
I respeced... for one ability that I had morphed incorrectly. One fraking ability. Now I'm in the position that I have another morphed ability that isn't working correctly, so it is a waste. But I don't want to spend half my money on respecs.
That and ZOS thinks it is acceptable to push back Nightblade fixes til "1.2.X" which is probably 2 months from now.
Give us the ability respec 1 skill line at a time, or this is another reason I'm going to unsub in 15 days.
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vicNBitis✭✭✭TheVindelator wrote: »Respecing one skill tree at a time would be better.
This if nothing else. I don't like having to take screenshots of everything and tediously reapplying all the skill points I didn't want changed every time I change one morph. I don't care how much it costs. Gold is pretty much useless once you have all the motifs, bag/bank upgrades, and horses. Charge 10k per morph reset. Whatever.1 -
Jeddahwe✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecI think gold sellers are really happy with the cost of respect as it is!4 -
jazon1972_ESO✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecthe cost per skill point would be fine if you could just pick the ones you wanted to change and not have to do all of them at once.1 -
Veakoth✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respec5 respec's so far and over 100k gold spent for it. I'd much prefer if they just had both morphs require a skill point and you could choose to swap between them. for example i want repentance morph for pvp and restoring aura for pve but i can't use both so i can't reach my potential in one of these situations.0
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Taiminator✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecRespec 1 skill for 1k gold! Wouldnt make it cheaper, just less of a hassle.Pact Bosmer Nightblade DPS, Tank or healer1 -
Anath_Q✭✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecCost per point is fine, given the option to only spend on those points that need changing. Having to pay to reset every point, whether you want to or not, is a bit over the top.| GM Cheesemongers of Nirn |1 -
jelliedsoup✭✭✭✭✭If there were no bugs then the cost would be fair. High cost of respecing due to bugs seems unfair. Also, putting the cost relatively high only encourages gold sellers and those people yelling Primal Motifs for sale in zone chat.www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO42 -
norcaljoshSoul ShrivenRespec cost is fairThe high cost causes one to really ponder life choices...1 -
Wolfshead✭✭✭✭Respec cost is fairI think cost is ok it should not be miss use which it can be if we lower cost just look at WoW it hard cost anything to respec. Respec should be money sinker and by being a money sinker people will think twice before the do that and beside it is not much spend money on in ESO atm anyway so i dont see problem of having high cost on itIf you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity0 -
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I'm sorry for you if you consider which abilities you take in a video game to be a "life choice."norcaljosh wrote: »The high cost causes one to really ponder life choices...1 -
joshisanonymous✭✭✭✭✭Respec cost is fairThe argument here seems to be that the high cost hinders one's ability to experiment. I would agree with that if it weren't for the fact that you get an enormous amount of skill points in this game. You want to experiment? Hunt down some skyshards and buy whichever skills you want to try that you don't already have. I'm literally doing every craft on one character and will still have enough skill points to create 3 completely different builds and fill in every single passive that might be even slightly helpful by the time I get to about 270 skill points. If you're not crafting, and your builds aren't that much different from each other (mine would require all the passives for 2 armor types and most of the passives for every weapon type, plus abilities from non-class/weapon lines, and their passives of course), you would need far fewer points. The only use I can even think of for a respec is to switch morphs. That's about the only questionable part in the whole thing to me.
I kinda feel like those who want cheap respecs are people who took every leveling shortcut possible and ended up at VR10 with just enough points to put together one build.1 -
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✭Respec cost is fairI wouldn't be disappointed if they removed the respec feature all together.[DC/NA]2 -
Sarenia✭✭✭✭✭Respec cost is fairPut two plates in front of a child. One contains a healthy balance of nutritious food, which is guaranteed to contribute to their rate of growth and development in an ideal way.
The second plate contains pizza and a scoop of chocolate ice cream.
Inform the child that if they eat the first plate, they get a treat. 999 times out of 1000, they'll choose the second plate anyway.
Adults aren't that much different.
What does any of this have to do with respec costs? Well, high costs are what we _need_, even if it isn't what some _want_. The game was originally designed to make choices of skills matter, so people can't just respec on a whim with little penalty.
Respecs should hurt. In my opinion, they shouldn't even be an option. There are so many skill points obtainable that you can afford quite a few mistakes. You may not end up with an optimal min/max powebuild to conquer all powerbuilds, but you'll do just fine.Edited by Sarenia on May 26, 2014 6:29AM[beta_group_85b_9]1 -
Lovely✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecnorcaljosh wrote: »The high cost causes one to really ponder life choices...
Yes, when I think of the 15.7k gold I'd have to dish out to change some things on my character, I realize I shouldn't have become an IT consultant but rather an artist. Hmm...Edited by Lovely on May 26, 2014 6:32AM0 -
Sallakat✭✭✭Respec cost is fairyaaaawwnRebuilt - Aldmeri Dominion
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Ruusu - sorcerer
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Harakh✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecIn MMO i like to test more Builds, like in GW2 it is pure fun to craft a build and try it in battle. So i voted for reduce of respec.
Maybe they just let us respec single skills for the same amount of money 100Gold per point. For one morphed skill it is 200 Gold thats ok too.Edited by Harakh on May 26, 2014 6:34AMDie Welt in einem Sandkorn sehen
Und den Himmel in einer wilden Blume;
Die Unendlichkeit in der Handfläche halten
Und die Ewigkeit in einer Stunde.1 -
Lovely✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecI think cost is ok it should not be miss use which it can be if we lower cost just look at WoW it hard cost anything to respec. Respec should be money sinker and by being a money sinker people will think twice before the do that and beside it is not much spend money on in ESO atm anyway so i dont see problem of having high cost on it
This is so cute!
Also, the reasoning of "No, we shouldn't, WoW's hardly costs anything" as if it's an argument. OK, so WoW's is cheap and is hardly ever needed for that matter, your point? How does that have anything to do with ESO?
By the way. Gold sinks should never affect gameplay. A gold sink is a pretty mount that costs an arm and a leg to buy. A gold sink is a big house and pretty furniture you buy for it. A gold sink should never bar your from trying out things or being comfortable with your character.
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ebunts14_ESO✭✭✭Respec cost is fairI say its fair only because it should not be used for the next flavor of the month. I can see 1 and maybe 2 respects being cheap. One respect free and one at maybe 500g total. Other than that you should be punished for switching skill points.Edited by ebunts14_ESO on May 26, 2014 6:45AM1 -
ebunts14_ESO✭✭✭Respec cost is fairgreeat-scottb14_ESO wrote: »outrageous in its current form. no game I've played rapes you this bad - not even skyrim which this is supposed to follow. You can even reset specific skill trees - not the entire point spectrum. why they ignored the systems already in place is beyond reasoning.
Skyrim? It follows Elder Scrolls which Skyrim is a part of but it does not follow Skyrim.
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✭✭Reduce the cost of respecOf course it is too much.
Anyone who says different is already rich in ESO.
Don't tell me you are not, I won't believe you.0 -
TheJadeFist✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respec
I agree, I'd be fine with the current cost of 100g per skill point, as long as I could choose which skill points were being removed.Currently it's too much since you have to respec everything in one go, if you want to.
I don't want to pay more then a horse's worth to change a morph.1
