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Should the cost of a respec in EOS be drastically reduced
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Bromburak✭✭✭✭✭Respec cost is fairgreeat-scottb14_ESO wrote: »outrageous in its current form. no game I've played rapes you this bad
First 1-2 years of DAOC were awesome because you had to kill Golestandt a dragon for respec stones. So respeccing was always something special and actually very rare. But then they have changed it and made Golestandt very easy so 2-3 chars could farm him after couple hours of respawn and so on. As well more options to obtain respecs were implemented ...
Many players today might expect it but imho a respec should be rare, special or at least "expensive".1 -
Reduce the cost of respecI think a good option here would be to allow the player to pick a specific skill line to refund. This way, if one doesn't like the morph they chose, or even an entire skill that they chose; they can switch their skill points to one they will use instead.1 -
snowmanflvb14_ESO✭✭✭✭Respec cost is fairthe cost to repsec is dam cheap in this game. This is not a respec for each run cost sure but that is what is nice.Magic is impressive but now Minsc leads SWORDS FOR EVERYONE!!2
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demendred✭✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecI need my gold for in-game drugs. Oh, and repairing, I guess....All good Nords goto Sto'Vo'Kor.0 -
Spiritreaver_ESO✭✭✭Respec cost is fairRepair cost is fair, but players should be able to say refund a skill line without having to respec everything.2 -
Elvent✭✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecNot sure why we are punished to choose how we want to play and if we made a mistake in our choosing of a spell.4 -
subecsanur✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecIt should be free not reduced, most games allow this. Also with the amount of time needed to go thru essentially 150 lvls why not at least get a free respec for @50, then first VR zone then after the last VR zone. Something like this.
Also why not allow more builds and hot bar combo per character.4 -
Respec cost is fairI think ability to respec should be removed. You make your choices and live with them.I picked up the sword and raced into battle, died.
I again, raced into battle wielding the sword, died.
Once again, died.
It was only then that I considered maybe the pointed end should face out.
- Why mages should not wield swords2 -
oxylus✭✭Reduce the cost of respecTo me the problem originates at the basic level of the skill tooltips. You can't make informed choices when the wording and strength of an effect are vague. You buy a morph and it turns out to be useless or have a different influence than what the "description" indicated.
I agree with people that having a morph changing station in addition to the full respec would be an alternative that wouldn't require changing the prices, but if it stands in the current system the price is too high for correcting a single mistake, or wanting to test out two skill morphs.6 -
zhevon✭✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecIt would be OK if the skill trees were stable - they really aren't.3
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Vlaxitov✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecI'd be fine with keeping the price scale the same only being able to reset one tree at a time instead of all or nothing.Edited by Vlaxitov on May 25, 2014 9:31PM3
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Vlaxitov✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecRockSolidWiff wrote: »I think ability to respec should be removed. You make your choices and live with them.
In a game that the abilities aren't being changed by the developer as you play it, you might have a point.
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twistedmonk✭✭✭respec's should be free to encourage people to try different builds
Guild Wars 2 went free respecs a while ago, quote from their patch notes.
"With the coming feature build, you’ll be able to respec your traits anywhere in the world without returning to a profession trainer. To make the deal even sweeter, you won’t ever have to pay to reset your traits! We think the cost hinders experimentation and takes away from the fun of experimenting with builds in PvE, so we’re removing it entirely."
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✭Respec cost is fairI think that the respec costs should be doubled, so you'd want to do it once/twice per your character and not all the time.
Instead of trying to get more skill points via Skyshards etc. you'd just exploit respec mechanic to invest in Craft and then respec for gameplay. Which is, from logical point of view, irrational.
Go on and hate me, I don't care. I'm roleplayer at heart, not Massive Mule Online.3 -
Vlaxitov✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecI think that the respec costs should be doubled, so you'd want to do it once/twice per your character and not all the time.
Instead of trying to get more skill points via Skyshards etc. you'd just exploit respec mechanic to invest in Craft and then respec for gameplay. Which is, from logical point of view, irrational.
Go on and hate me, I don't care. I'm roleplayer at heart, not Massive Mule Online.
If you couldn't level most crafting trees without every actually crafting, you might have a point.
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TicToc✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecYes, the cost is ridiculously high.
Typically when i respec, there are only certain skills that i want to respec, not my whole character, yet the cost is based on a per point basis, so you get charged for points that you didn't even want to respec.
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Nooblet✭✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecI still think buying a respec with AP should be possible. What else are they for?0 -
glitchmaster999✭✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecI would be happy with just being able to respec morphs1 -
Eorea✭✭✭Respec cost is fairCost is actually alright at 100g per point, but I don't always want to completely redo everything. Right now, it removes all skill points from everything. I rather liked my crafting points, thank you very much! One skill tree at a time AND separate crafting and other skills like they did with attributes.3 -
Vunter✭✭✭Respec cost is fairYou should have give another option like "it is fair but i want free respec at level x"
In my case, I'd like only a free respec for vr1, because that's when you get into serious stuff.2 -
The_Drexill✭✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecThey don't need to reduce it too much... but some for sure.Brandizzle - NB
Drexill The Unbreakable - Sorc
For teh covenant.0 -
ElVincenzo✭✭Respec cost is fairFree or too cheap respeccing would hurt crafting, as you could craft for example some high end blacksmithing stuff, respecc, craft some high end runes, respecc, ..., and so on. And after your crafting session, you repsecc all back to your combat skills. You could master every craft and still be the best fighter without having to make serious choices or specialiation.
Also, there are more then enough skillpoints available. I have 3 crafts full skilled and working on number four, have all class skills, one and a half weapon line, one and a half armor line, some open world lines, all racials, some guilds. And havent even reached 200 skill points. So i can skill almost all i want and my "respeccing" is just changing gear and rearrange my skill bars.
Only point where respecc is usefull are morphs, maybe a cheaper option only affecting morphs would be nice. But i personally dont really need it. There are only 2 morphs per skill, so when i respecc (waiting till vr10), i just change the few morphs were i noticed i made a bad decision and everything is fine for me. And the 20k, maybe 25k gold, i just make that money in some days, doenst hurt me THAT much.
Edit: some corrections.... typing with a tablet is crapEdited by ElVincenzo on May 25, 2014 10:40PM0 -
Maverick827✭✭✭✭✭
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Your second paragraph argues against your first...ElVincenzo wrote: »Free or too cheap respeccing would hurt crafting, as you could craft for example some high end blacksmithing stuff, respecc, craft some high end runes, respeec, ..., and so on. And after your crafting session, you repsecc all back toyour combat skills. You could master every craft and still be the best fighter without having to make serious choices ore specilisation.
Also, there are kre then enough skillpoints availabld. I have 3 crafts full skilled and working on number four, have all class skills, one and a half weapon line, one and a half ar our line, some open world lines, all racials, some guilds. And havent even reached 200 skill points. So i can skill almost all i want and my "respeccing" is just changing gear and rearrange my skill bars.
Only point where respecc is usefull are morphs, maybe a cheaper option only affecting morphs would be nice. But i personally dont really needed. There are only 2 morphs per skill, so when i respecc (waiting till vr10), i just change the few morphs were i noticed i made a bad decision and everything is fine for me. And the 20k, maybe 25k gold, i just make that money in some days, doenst hurt me THAT much.
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ElVincenzo✭✭Respec cost is fairMaverick827 wrote: »
Your second paragraph argues against your first...ElVincenzo wrote: »Free or too cheap respeccing would hurt crafting, as you could craft for example some high end blacksmithing stuff, respecc, craft some high end runes, respeec, ..., and so on. And after your crafting session, you repsecc all back toyour combat skills. You could master every craft and still be the best fighter without having to make serious choices ore specilisation.
Also, there are kre then enough skillpoints availabld. I have 3 crafts full skilled and working on number four, have all class skills, one and a half weapon line, one and a half ar our line, some open world lines, all racials, some guilds. And havent even reached 200 skill points. So i can skill almost all i want and my "respeccing" is just changing gear and rearrange my skill bars.
Only point where respecc is usefull are morphs, maybe a cheaper option only affecting morphs would be nice. But i personally dont really needed. There are only 2 morphs per skill, so when i respecc (waiting till vr10), i just change the few morphs were i noticed i made a bad decision and everything is fine for me. And the 20k, maybe 25k gold, i just make that money in some days, doenst hurt me THAT much.
Why? I had to make some choices while leveling as i had to spread my points wide between crafting and combat skills. Also i could not skill everything till now, for example pvp skills, more weapons or max out lines i currently only picked the most importent skills. If i would skill even more crafts, i had to take some points from my combat skills and loose combat efficency.
I still have to make choices and specialise, but it is not as critical as in other games. I can waste some skill points in crap skills without making my character unplayable.Edited by ElVincenzo on May 25, 2014 10:38PM0 -
Zershar_Vemod✭✭✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecRespec should be skill specific (i.e. choosing a certain skill(s) in what to have respect for), not everything at once.
Period.House Nyssara (NA)
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ozgod22_eso✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecDouble postEdited by ozgod22_eso on May 25, 2014 10:40PM1 -
ozgod22_eso✭✭✭Reduce the cost of respecWhat I would like is to have the skill respec process adjusted, if they want to stick to it being extravagantly expensive. If the game promotes players being able to have the flexibility to play whatever class/build they want, they should not penalise early adopters who may have chosen a build that works well for levelling (e.g. nightblade dual wield rogue archetype) from switching to one that works well at endgame either PvE or PvP (destro/resto).
The issue is really with remorphing skills. It's not a big deal to train up the weapon skills, and you have ample opportunity to gather skill points - you probably end up with 300-400 by end of game. But if you picked the wrong morph when you were level 15 and didn't know any better you should not have to pay 30k at vet level to effectively change that one morph which may significantly impact your playstyle at end game. E.g. some of the nightblade morphs can significantly change your playstyle from dps to healer.
If they want to continue to make it a money sink, that's fine with me. But least give us the opportunity to respec by skill line, so that we can respec morphs that we got wrong because we didn't know any better back then. The extravangantly high costs of some things in this game don't help when trying to reduce the lure of gold sellers for players.Edited by ozgod22_eso on May 25, 2014 11:41PM3 -
DragoshanSoul ShrivenReduce the cost of respecI think they have proven time and time again they have no idea how their engine/coding works.
Do you really think they can make shrines be that selective? With only respecing morphs/skill lines? It's all or nothing baby.
And if they attempt to do it, get ready for a new heap of bugs.1