Thank you for your report, @Fshober28b14_ESO. Are there specific mobs and monsters that you're seeing this issue with? Or is it the same across Bangkorai?

ZOS_TristanK wrote: »

Thank you for your report, @Fshober28b14_ESO. Are there specific mobs and monsters that you're seeing this issue with? Or is it the same across Bangkorai?

Hi Tristan, yes I have been in the region north of Evermore(Bangkorai), and making my way through Murcien's Hamlet as I write this. I wish I had a screenshot of the death recap to show you from this initial incident, however the game glitched on me and said I was dead yet I was not yet dead and then the game crashed on me and had to relog to get control back of my char. If I continue to encounter this I will post a screenshot for you of the death recap.

Slash8915 wrote: »

You know something is wrong when 3 vr8 mudcrabs give you a little scare... I don't think this fix affected all the mobs.

Yes, as I test it more, it seems so far some are where there were before and others are not. Haven't tried mudcrabs lol, but I am killing Dark Witness mobs right now so far and getting owned by 2-3 that I could take before with out feeling like I am getting squeeze played til I die in 3 hits. I know this much, without seeing numbers...I have never had a 'Throw Dagger' skill from an npc take 1/3 or more of my hp for about 800 damage. Something is still off, and unfortunately I don't have an actual way to compare the real time damage numbers from pre 1.1.2 and after the patch cause the death recap only exists now post patch. But, you definitely know when mobs you killed before are now owning you when they didn't before.

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_TristanK wrote: »

Thank you for your report, @Fshober28b14_ESO. Are there specific mobs and monsters that you're seeing this issue with? Or is it the same across Bangkorai?

Apologies if i'm hi-jacking but maybe this applies to the issue I have in the Septima Tharn quest in Bangkorai. It is the "normal" quest (non-vet) yet there are two Septimas doing uninterruptable, undodgable, LOS-immune 260 hp zaps every second.

Is there any official word that is intended or is it a case of someone misplacing a decimal point?

it's all good, anything more helps them fix the issues if they are indeed persisting anywhere.

Update, the irony, the Elite quest boss Sir Etienne in Murcien's was actually right where it should be for these types of mobs as it was pre patch. But, those 'normal' mobs outside in the area are like fighting mini-elite bosses...so those definitely are out of whack in damage. I just saw some poor guy have to run off 2 normal mobs and he is at level for Bangkorai.
So basically the normal mobs are more a threat than the actual elite mob. "It's like the whole world has gone topsy-turvy".....Sorry, Harry Potter line reference =P

Another update, still in Bangkorai...moved onto another region of the zone where I had a quest I held off on....so yeah got a death recap this time...and none of this was a dot and this was spammed at me by 2 normal mobs literally all within 2 seconds. This kind of high damage spam combat with mobs definitely didn't happen to me pre-patch & is occurring post hot fix.

Also, btw...I am V10 in full V10 legendary gear and weapons...all of it is fully repaired and I do actively roll/block/move. I know this game doesn't work off hard gear dependence, but I feel like I am not even wearing anything at all...like I am just eating raw damage all the time.

While most mob toughness seem to be fairly normal (except those mobs that havent died since friday), I'm still seeing some random insane damage and healers that are pretty much impossible to kill unless you got your ultimate up constantly. Seriously, every 6 second or so they heal up 25% HP every 0.3s for 4 seconds. You cant outdps it, if you still got stamina/magicka you can just barely interrupt it at the second or third tick (in which case they've healed back up 50-75% HP) unless you got an inhuman reaction time. They're like bloody mini-Doshias. Combine this with 2 more mobs around you doing alot of damage and the fights are... frustrating to say the least.

I find the death recap extremely funny... Yeah so I didnt dodge. If I had dodged, the healer I was trying to nuke down would have gone from 20% to 100% HP before I even got my footing again. So no ZOS, I didnt have time to *** dodge the 1000 dps AoE from the 2 archers.

Hey there. Hey @ZOS_TristanK
I totally agree with the Topic and sign this for 100%.
I didnt had problems in the Vet Zones. Or atleast, nothing feld "to easy" or "too hard". Some things where challenging and i safed Bankorai for the content patch since i thought one Area for 2 Levels won't be enough. Right after the Craglorn patch arrived i jumped into Bankorai and i die all the time or barely survive. I have never been affected by things beeing to hard and where allways scared that things might be to easy. I usually thought the balancing is quite well.

For now, it fels frustrating. I'm totaly fine with the difficulty inside the trials and the Craglorn Map. But i totally do not like to Solo Quest at all at the moment.
After i read the Forum and noticed the Change which supposed to be made, i came back to Bankorai. Arround 4-5 times a day since launch and i allways died within the first 3 or 4 mop groups.

I've just started to having fun right before the launch and i where excited for the highly praised content update.

The Trials has been fun if you don't judge how long it takes to get your members in to your group without losing your leader to invite people ,,, or the disconnects when someone zones into the Dungeon... or the disconnects which counts as deaths because people get kicked out... or the teleport bug, which just forces the entire group in the middle of the trials to start all over again....

Besides the Trials, i havent seen much of the craglorn content. I've been invited to farm one stupid boss the whole time coz "its the easyiest way to level". And if i think i don't want to farm one single boss the whole time, ill get pissed off when i'm standing arround for 1,5 seconds (or so) while monsters hit me like a truck while using the main damage spell of the templar.

Besides the basics, i'm following the Forum and dev tracker just every few hours.I guess i will never understand, why people start releasing and obvioesly immature content update without having most of the issues been solved before.
I won't understand the facts, you are balancing some class related spells with a brain like an ant and a higher priority then other issues.. (Even my interns whould have noticed, a 1,2-1,5 delay after a spell whould be a totally dissatisfied solotion. It basically feels like a 600 ping)
The only reason of the PTS ive seen (i had access to it too!) where just commercial related. Atleast it feld that way, because i personally reportet main issues their, and every single one has been implemented live.

Untill now, i have been a very calm customer which allways said: "Ah well. Most of the Problems are getting solved soon or has been solved .. just wait and see. If something bothers you, just try to avoid it. Move to another Quest and come back later. Relax and take it easy. Its a beautiful world. Even the 10 Skill fighting system didnt bothered me that much, even i liked games with much more usable skills and the possibity of long chains though...

BUT .. you guys are messing up.
No one (!!) of my friends, who just made me playing this game and highly expected that game much more then me, are left and returned to their old Game or stopped playing. I'm inside 2 /5 active community Guilds and wherever i went on his TeamSpeak, i get confronted by the same dissatisfaction.
I have 42 Days of my Account left because (lucky for you!) your billing system chaos forced me to buy a 2 months Gametimecard before using the free 30 days.
(I'm not complaining about this, but i am complaining about the recent Issues which i'm having with the game since the last patch, which are slowly destroying the fun i had. But its also an explanation for why i am still playing.)

I hope words like this (and the creator if this thread) are getting an Ear.

So far, ~Celurian

Slash8915 wrote: »

You know something is wrong when 3 vr8 mudcrabs give you a little scare... I don't think this fix affected all the mobs.

Oh gawd, I pity the fool that comes across the pool that spawns the multitude (like 10+) of aggressive mud crabs (think it's in one of the AD forest zones) while this is in effect. Lol, would pay to see that.

V3 sorcerer,I just respec'd all attributes and skill points. I am getting totally demolished in PVE, I am suddenly unable to solo quests or take on more than 2 NPC, I was moving slowly thru the content with some difficulties, now I am just stopped dead.

Still no change to the mobs at least in Bangkorai, still OP...sighs I was hoping the hour down time over night with the hard reset would have had a some fixes with it...oh well.

ZOS_TristanK wrote: »

Fshober28b14_ESO wrote: »

ZOS_TristanK wrote: »

Thank you for your report, @Fshober28b14_ESO. Are there specific mobs and monsters that you're seeing this issue with? Or is it the same across Bangkorai?

Hi Tristan, yes I have been in the region north of Evermore(Bangkorai), and making my way through Murcien's Hamlet as I write this. I wish I had a screenshot of the death recap to show you from this initial incident, however the game glitched on me and said I was dead yet I was not yet dead and then the game crashed on me and had to relog to get control back of my char. If I continue to encounter this I will post a screenshot for you of the death recap.

Thank you for the reply! We'll send this along to the team.

In addition we'd like to mention that we are discussing ways to make Death Recap more clear. Currently, it's adding all damage from certain abilities, such as DoTs, into a single value. This makes it look as if some monster abilities are hitting for far greater in one hit than they actually are.

We'll continue to monitor the VR mob difficulty, and appreciate your patience!

[Edit]So that our Dev Team can investigate as specifically as possible, do you mind letting us know a few of the specific creatures that are hitting too hard?

I don't care what the Death Recap says, I don't need it to tell me that a trash mob has just hit me for 1/2 - 2/3 of my HP in a single blow ! When a VR4 trash mob can do that against a VR4 character wearing all heavy gear (reinforced trait) then something is seriously wrong ! ! !

ZOS_TristanK wrote: »

Thank you for your report, @Fshober28b14_ESO. Are there specific mobs and monsters that you're seeing this issue with? Or is it the same across Bangkorai?

I don't have specific names, but I can tell you that spell casters in particular are hitting way too hard compared to non-caster counterparts. Its to the point that if there are 2 enemies I can probably take then but it will be though if there's a caster... If there are 3 and one or more is a caster they kill me almost every time.

Its not just the special abilities that hit too hard either, their basic attack, which isn't avoidable, is far too damaging.

>>their basic attack, which isn't avoidable...

Basically,I'm action game fan (like a witcher2 or AC4 black flag.)
And,I also have experience to play TES5 skyrim.
When I saw enemy homing arrow in the my early PVE game play,I'm astonished.
I felt huge strange impression about enemy horming projectile.
Maybe,most of action game player can't accept such a combat system.
Because, player can't avoid enemy projectile by "real time movement control".

At a first glance,ESO combat system looks like action game system.
But It's Not. Actual ESO combat is little bit similar to turn battle like a retro RPG
game(Nintendo family computer age game) ,compare with contemporary action game combat. It's far from dynamic....

AvalonRanger wrote: »

>>their basic attack, which isn't avoidable...

Basically,I'm action game fan (like a witcher2 or AC4 black flag.)
And,I also have experience to play TES5 skyrim.
When I saw enemy homing arrow in the my early PVE game play,I'm astonished.
I felt huge strange impression about enemy horming projectile.
Maybe,most of action game player can't accept such a combat system.
Because, player can't avoid enemy projectile by "real time movement control".

At a first glance,ESO combat system looks like action game system.
But It's Not. Actual ESO combat is little bit similar to turn battle like a retro RPG
game(Nintendo family computer age game) ,compare with contemporary action game combat. It's far from dynamic....

Ranged single-target combat absolutely, and yes I'm sad about that to (might stop the bow stam in PvP if they had to aim and predict). Melee is still reasonably action oriented though (though I guess there's still tab targeting).