Is it related to pay back money issues where the support guys ban peoples incause of Zenimax want to pay money back?

It's funny I've been through many bot bans in many games and not once have I been "accidentally" banned not once but I don't cheat either so who knows.

Oh and here's a handy news article on what they did LAST time April 20th:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/04/20/elder-scrolls-online-accidentally-bans-legitimate-accounts/

Blah blah, legitimate accounts never get banned. Yea right, not with ZOS.

I read that correctly didn't I? "go on strike" How does one go on strike from a game they have paid for and paid the monthly fee for? That doesn't make any damn sense. Ok so what the guildies did was to punish themselves by refusing to entertain themselves with entertainment they paid for? Got it. I will remember next time I pay 60 bucks at the theatre to see a movie, I will throw a fit and refuse to watch the movie I have already paid for.

LOL exploiters crying rivers again?

I sometimes find myself scratching my head when it comes to some of the bad arguments put forth online. Nobody can validate your claim, and thus it carries no weight. We can't just take your word for it, because there just aren't any real consequences if you are lying, or are caught outright lying. You can just change your screen name, and your prose, and you are absolved of all sins.

Any argument made must either stand or fall purely on its own merit. Look you can't serve as a character witness for people you probably don't know in real life, and we can't give credence to statements made by someone we don't have the luxury of knowing in real life. Further more even if you know them in reality you have to recognize a very salient point. Being online reduces inhibitions. It is a license for many people to behave in a way they would never act like in reality.

Could you honestly say you watched them like a hawk every second of every day. I doubt that, and I would find any claim to that effect highly suspect. Let us be honest about things. When you weren't watching them they could have been the slimiest cheaters in the game. I am speaking from experience. I have had friendships online with players I thought were honest. Right up until I saw them cheat, and abuse other players.

I have just one more thing to add on the subject. The sad reality is this. Those who beta test games actually have a higher likelihood of being cheaters. When the games they test go live. While I am sure most who beta test do so out of a sincere desire to help in the creation process of a game. There are many that do so to get a leg up on the live player base, or worse to find the *** in the games armor to exploit once it goes live.

To put it mildly the chances of a beta tester being an exploiter are a great deal higher then they are for somebody who didn't play the game until the day of its launch. I got some sad news for you. Those gold sellers, and those that operate bot trains were all likely beta testers. The strategies, and exploits them made use of right out of the gate were planned well in advance.

Anyway they are either guilty or innocent. You probably aren't in a position to know the truth of it either way. In a game with hundreds of thousands of users it isn't unfathomable that there will be innocent victims in the developers pursuit to rid its game of exploiters. Who aren't just hurting their customers, but their own bottom line. The majority of the install base wants them to be aggressive with cheaters.

Just like we want our law enforcement to be aggressive in rooting out real life criminals. We understand that sometimes they are going to arrest the wrong person for the crime, and sometimes the wrong person will be convicted, and while our hearts may go out to those innocent victims. Nobody would advocate that law enforcement should be ground to a halt, because of the possibility.

If your friends are genuinely innocent. Then you have to trust that the wheels of justice will exonerate them, and if they are genuine in their support of the game then they should understand that these sweeps are necessary for it to have any chance of prospering.

Cheaters and exploiters will always be caught and banned and not any amount of third party defending will cover or defend the truth of why were they banned. Most of us know what they did and even if the get unbanned we know it was unfair for the rest of the player base that did not abuse it, however, at this point is a matter of principle and I really can care less anymore, as most of the issues that break this game get sweep under the rug and the ones suffering the results of the actions are the true players. Good travels to you all.

You're blind and blindly defending a company you don't have nearly as much time in as I do.

Let me explain something to you - I run a business. If I'm going to do something that adversely affects my customers I'm not going to do it before a holiday weekend.

The sad thing is this is the second time in a row they've done it. They did it right before the Easter weekend (no one I know was affected, I just read about it) and now again on Memorial day weekend.

The funny thing is that my guild is 200 people strong and 60% veterans (armed forces, not in game) and they 2/3 people they banned were vets on memorial day weekend when they just wanted to hang out and play with us.

This company has a lot to learn. It's sad that it will most likely be after most people have left the game that they get their *** together.

Like it or not, that's the truth.

Good day sir.

Waiting for the point at which some of the TES boosters get banned inadvertently and see their response. I seem to remember during beta they led the cheering for the restrictions on API access to third party add-on devs hailing it as a guarantee against gold sellers and botters. Well that went well didn't it?

To anyone that has been suspended illegitimately, don't give up guys. I just got my account unlocked after sending an email to them explaining the situation.

reggielee wrote: »

i think the prob arose from masses 'farming' fast respawning elites in trials in large groups, causing alot of disconnects and repeated relogging. technically allowed but really.... just another exploit. sitting in one place farming nonstop for experience, grouped for the higher exp and loot... really...

All my characters are level 34 or below. These bans have affected people of all levels. So I don't think it is to do with the VR's farming Elites.

I know at least one case of legitimate player being banned. It looks like ZOS is rechecking and maybe he will get unbanned

LexonLightbringer wrote: »

AlienDiplomat wrote: »

It is against the TOS to question disciplinary actions here. Also, you do not know your friends weren't botting, buying gold, exploiting, etc. You have only their word, which any court will tell you is HEARSAY and not admissible as evidence.

I suggest that rather than stirring up trouble you let them deal with the company themselves.

If upon investigation it turns out they WERE botting and exploiting, I praise ZOS and thank the divines they are gone for good. No offense.

EDIT: Also, please don't chorus about all the "poor legit customers" getting banned. I don't know anyone that wasn't botting, gold selling/buying, or exploiting that was banned, and I am in five guilds with over 1000 active members.

The people complaining loudest about the bans have been the people that deserved it, which is to be expected. That said, if it really was in error, let them dispute it through the channels available rather than making a public stink about it.

That's all fine and good, but if those three got banned for no good reason, then ZENIMAX should provide them with 30 day complementary time for every week they are banned. If there system is so archaic that they can't distinguish between bots and people farming, then this game has a long way to go before it actually solves the problem.

Yes, there have been some documented false positives in the ban waves.

It does not follow that ALL complainers are false positives, but NO ONE in this thread knows the truth of it. Zos has to investigate, which is frustrating if you're caught in a false positive, and I hope it's resolved for your friends soon.

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, but do you happen to have an idea what might have triggered the automated process?

Nope, sorry I don't. This is the frustrating thing with not being told exactly what the problem was, I have no whether come the next time there is a large bot cull, I will be flagged and banned again.