Suggestion: Revert patch 1.1.2

Phinix1 · May 2014

/signed

The new gear colors are BAD. The new sounds are BAD. The absence of ANY chests in dungeons is BAD. The rollbacks are BAD. The ignore list not working is BAD. The reduced loot radius that punishes legit players but doesn't bother position-coded bots one bit is BAD. The lack of 40 new GM's to actively ban bots is BAD.

HerbZula · May 2014

They keep saying they are not going to make this game free to play. Right now this game is the quality of a free to play game and they keep making it worse..

Its a shame, this game had HUGE potential and they are just mucking it up in great fashion. Do not know why they keep pushing out new broken content, or release a game that still has GIANT MISSING red boxes (wtf is that??). Its not for profit cause they already have our money so I do not know what the hell is going on. Its all bad right now that is all i can say....

Grimkardinal · May 2014

Natjur wrote: »

/signed
/agree
/canceled subscription

as did I, Quitting this game now. Getting killed by 2 goblins in Bankgorai vr5 is not acceptable, Nothing was wrong with difficulty before and now it's unplayable. screw you zenimax

shiva7663 · May 2014

It would be helpful for them to keep marketing personnel out of the loop for quality control decisions.

CrimsonThomas · May 2014

What was that thing Pete Hines, Zenimax's VP of PR stated about the subscription fee?

"We feel pretty strongly about the support we're going to have for the game and what you're going to get for those dollars..."

So, Zenimax? Where is this support going? Yes, I know we're paying for it, but we're certainly not seeing any of it.

Amanoma · May 2014

The only thing that came to my mind was.... LOL! I've been scratching my head for the past hour now thinking of ways to put this quest mob down but for the life of me, there's just no way when he hits this hard and have that insane amount of HP with me just doing that much damage.

Is it just me or is it just the mobbed being to overly buffed to be killed solo? I mean, even "solo" dungeon bosses are quite challenging if not close to impossible to beat now. They are classified as "solo" dungeons for a reason, right?

CrimsonThomas · May 2014

Amanoma wrote: »

The only thing that came to my mind was.... LOL! I've been scratching my head for the past hour now thinking of ways to put this quest mob down but for the life of me, there's just no way when he hits this hard and have that insane amount of HP with me just doing that much damage.

Is it just me or is it just the mobbed being to overly buffed to be killed solo? I mean, even "solo" dungeon bosses are quite challenging if not close to impossible to beat now. They are classified as "solo" dungeons for a reason, right?

No, everybody hates this buff. VR10 players are struggling.

Phinix1 · May 2014

Lets all talk about how this patch makes us feel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY

Arsenic_Touch · May 2014

Okay, these rollbacks are getting ridiculous.

born2beagator · May 2014

Lets not forget its broken more quests. Endless war in coldharbour is now broken

CrimsonThomas · May 2014

born2beagator wrote: »

Lets not forget its broken more quests. Endless war in coldharbour is now broken

This update has actually managed to break more than it fixed (did it actually fix anything in a satisfactory manner?). Many of these game-breaking issues were reported by the Play-Testers on the PTS for weeks, and Zenimax chose to ignore them and shove this update out of the door anyway, knowing what would happen.

Remember this, everybody. This sends a message about what they truly think of their fans, their players, their customers.

Chrysolis · May 2014

Then this happened:

I had more screenshots - but, as it turns out, the screenshot function only gives you corrupted files. So this was on clipboard.

CrimsonThomas · May 2014

Chrysolis wrote: »

Then this happened:
I had more screenshots - but, as it turns out, the screenshot function only gives you corrupted files. So this was on clipboard.

So, you're telling us Zenimax manged to break even the screenshot feature with Patch 1.1.2?

I'm not sure whether to laugh, be angry, or just sit in silence and tear up my used time card I kept as a memento of my time with The Elder Scrolls Online. I'm not so sure I even want to remember my time in this game anymore...well, other than telling people to stay far, far, away from it.

Estin · May 2014

I was going to wait another month for this game to be fixed. From all the BS i've read about and what terrible changes I saw for myself, this game is going down hill. Reverting back will make them publicly their huge mistake which is a bad thing for them. They don't have to read the respond to these posts, they already know the *** up badly. They were hoping for an epic launch for consoles as this game was intended for. If they didn't dedicate this game to consoles, they wouldn't have released the PC version 3 months before the console release, and then push the console release back by 6 months. Their plan was to rack up as much money as they can with the PC version so they can make a perfect console version. Nobody is going to buy this game after what is happening. Who would even want to buy a game that has been bug ridden since day -5 and keeps getting broken after each patch and being neglected? I sure as hell won't. And no, I'm not one of those anarchist people who been boy cotting this game since beta. I first played the beta in January and enjoyed it. I had so much faith in this game. But once the full game got released, it just started going down hill. You can still fix your mistakes ZOS, people will respect you more if you admit to all the stuff you messed up and took the time to fix it instead of spending time releasing content and stealth patches.

LadyMamoulian · May 2014

I will only say one thing: the harder this game gets in the VR zones - any VR Zones - the better. And the harder it gets on Dragon Knights - the better. Let them just die like as often as all other players do. BTW I am a tank as well, not a DS, and I ve had my share of deaths while watching DKs just running through. And because their gameplay skills, but because their buffed performace (and I am not gonna mention their "performance" in the Cyrodiil at all). Overall: VET zones are for VET players so they should be as hard as possible, that is what I think.

born2beagator · May 2014

LadyMamoulian wrote: »

I will only say one thing: the harder this game gets in the VR zones - any VR Zones - the better. And the harder it gets on Dragon Knights - the better. Let them just die like all otehr players. BTW I am a tank as well and I ve had my share of deaths while watching DKs just running through. Overall: VET zones are for VET players so they should be as hard as possible, that is what I think.

They were already hard. This is ridiculous. There is a point where "challenging" becomes "frustrating"

At that point why should I keep playing something that is not fun

Chrysolis · May 2014

I'm actually kind of amazed that they managed to break so many things. I'm not a programmer, but I can't even fathom how the errors managed to result in such far-reaching issues. How could any of the changes have resulted in such graphical errors? What caused the FPS drop? Why can't some people even load up the game?

Did they outsource updates to tech support in Dubai?

Phinix1 · May 2014

Back to watching crap like this all evening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6VCnYkNYLo

born2beagator · May 2014

Chrysolis wrote: »

I'm actually kind of amazed that they managed to break so many things. I'm not a programmer, but I can't even fathom how the errors managed to result in such far-reaching issues. How could any of the changes have resulted in such graphical errors? What caused the FPS drop? Why can't some people even load up the game?

Did they outsource updates to tech support in Dubai?

I had to turn on vsync today, never needed it before. I was getting invisible enemies and strange colored screen rips

CrimsonThomas · May 2014

Chrysolis wrote: »

I'm actually kind of amazed that they managed to break so many things. I'm not a programmer, but I can't even fathom how the errors managed to result in such far-reaching issues. How could any of the changes have resulted in such graphical errors? What caused the FPS drop? Why can't some people even load up the game?

Did they outsource updates to tech support in Dubai?

You don't need to have years of technical experience to know that IF YOU IGNORE WHAT YOUR TESTERS REPORT, and shove the content out the door anyway, THOSE ISSUES WILL STILL BE THERE.

I'll just keep going back to this: Zenimax followed through with their "Shove it out the door, we'll patch it later" attitude for a patch!

Chirru · May 2014

justjon1007 wrote: »

/signed I'm fine with some of the balance parts such as Shield Bash and the like however this increased difficulty to the VR content is just uncalled for. What did we do (The players) to deserve such a kick in the teeth

It is not only the VR content...the Nerf is felt across all levels because it effects all new Chars created also. Yes, level 5 NPC's hit harder now.

Lauranae · May 2014

/signed

Rooty · May 2014

Chrysolis wrote: »

How could any of the changes have resulted in such graphical errors? What caused the FPS drop?

Graphical errors and FPS (performance overall, both in and out of game) drops seem to be affected by the excess use of RAM the game is using. This is most likely caused by the repeated allocation of memory, without deallocating it - the allocations would likely be in some form of looping construct or subsquent function calls (within a looping construct). This is both an easy mistake to make and an easy mistake to fix.

Just a hunch.

CrimsonThomas · May 2014

Chirru wrote: »

It is not only the VR content...the Nerf is felt across all levels because it effects all new Chars created also. Yes, level 5 NPC's hit harder now.

There's a huge difference between making a game challenging and rewarding versus just making a game so hard and punishing that it isn't any fun to play. Zenimax has achieved the latter with Patch 1.1.2. Congratulations, Zenimax, another achievement for you, we still don't have any of ours.

Takanami · May 2014

Natjur wrote: »

/signed
/agree
/canceled subscription

same.

Zenimax, your patches are REALLY beginning to look like Battlefield 4.. and that is most certainly NOT a compliment. Fix 5 things, break 10

redwoodtreesprite · May 2014

I am thinking what I suspect many others are thinking:

If they fix this mess FAST, and not in two weeks or more, I will keep my sub going. But am not going to play a broken game, where my characters can't last long in basic combats. And also all my gameplay right now may result in never to get achievements.

There had better be some real fast work at fixes and also some serious attempts at communication! Or there are two subs that will be cancelled in less than one week.

Chrysolis · May 2014

This isn't the same exact thing, but I thought I might link the poll here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100932/should-patch-1-1-2-be-rolled-back#latest
I don't actually advocate character rollbacks. That would really make some people angry. I'm advocating the rollback of basically every change that doesn't involve Craglorn, as there's obviously deeper repercussions than anyone at ZOS anticipated.

born2beagator · May 2014

At least in this patch. Further than that? NO

Chrysolis · May 2014

This thread is about patch 1.1.2 as the title indicates.

Rylana · May 2014

Sorta glad I am having billing issues and cant get in now. Maybe a couple days away will be what is needed to get me to walk away.

The whole VR12 thing really upset a lot of people, and i am hearing rumors of vr15 coming before the end of the summer.

Not really cool with chasing higher and higher tiers of PITA to get materials for gear to craft all the time.

Paying 15 dollars a month to do a job, yeah no. I was happy when I hit VR10, felt like id finally reached that big goal of endgame. That was day before yesterday >____>

With all the broken stuff I saw in game tonight (the most annoying one was loading in to the game, getting on my horse, going about 10 meters and having the loadscreen pop back on) I am strongly considering leaving despite the fact of the billing department being "special"

So yeah, I agree with the OP, roll it back.