DK's are nerfed really hard with the new patch. DK Fire Mage or Shield build is dead. Inhale useless

Evergnar · May 2014

Tyr wrote: »

Balancing is a never ending effort in MMO's

Exactly. I run a DK (among others) and I approve. Every class will continually get nerfs/buffs as the game progresses.

maxilaub17_ESO · May 2014

The only two nerfs I'd question is the talons radius (the limit to 6 people is good for all aoe's) and inhale simply because I took it off my bar before the nerf I though it sucked. I hardly ever saw it being used, why in the world they nerfed it I have no idea? Since I don't use it it doesn't effect me, just like to know how it was getting abused that they decided to nerf it?

monkeymystic · May 2014

maxilaub17_ESO wrote: »

The only two nerfs I'd question is the talons radius (the limit to 6 people is good for all aoe's) and inhale simply because I took it off my bar before the nerf I though it sucked. I hardly ever saw it being used, why in the world they nerfed it I have no idea? Since I don't use it it doesn't effect me, just like to know how it was getting abused that they decided to nerf it?

This is what nobody understand, because like you say, Inhale never was strong to begin with.

At VR 10 Inhale sucked before patch. It was expensive and uneffective. And now it is zero point using it in any build at all.

They might as well remove Inhale from the game and return the skill point as it is now. Because it's not worth anything.

Aimelin · May 2014

JosephChip wrote: »

Wow, just wow.
Impulse nerfed, talons nerfed, inhale nerfed (well, destroyed more like it), elemental drain nerfed, ultimate nerfed. Pretty much every sane person feared this outcome by looking at the bunch of whiners on these forums complaining about DKs with no valid points.
I am really disappointed by Zenimax. They conceded everything and more to the whiners. Common mistake in many MMOs. This will just have the effect of pushing most DK players, seen their class kicked to the ground, to reroll fotm sorcerers (yeah we need more of them) or templars. What a pity.
And I was expecting a lot more from them since they stated they would not base balance solely on players feedback. Only thing left to do is hope they won't persist on this path with future patches.

yes please ! i love bad sorcs who grinded to 50 or VR10 and then spam bolt escape the second they take dmg, caus they don't know wtf they're doing, i love killing them

kewl · May 2014

Galen_the_Black · May 2014

lol building around skills that are known to not be working as intended and then crying when the skill(s) get fixed to where it's intended is the sign of a poor immature child.

Bloodvax · May 2014

Finding it hard to care when most of the DKS abused the hell out of these in pvp. Sorry you have to actually try now

Shanan · May 2014

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vicNBitis · May 2014

ArRashid wrote: »

the whole ardent flame line is bad, except standard which already got hit and maybe 2 passives..

Whip is amazing and the passives are amazing as well.

monkeymystic · May 2014

The funny thing is the "grass is greener" attitude towards DKs.

Main problem is people didn't know how to make solid builds with their class.
Destro + Resto DKs using elemental drain needed tuning yes, but Inhale was never even strong, and got nerfed to nothing.

Saying something like Inhale should be nerfed just to be nerfed for no reason is shortsighted and dumb.

tinythinker · May 2014

Shanan wrote: »

Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
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So the maturity level on the forums is finally showing signs of improvement at last. I was beginning to lose hope.

Shanan · May 2014

tinythinker wrote: »

Shanan wrote: »

Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.

So the maturity level on the forums is finally showing signs of improvement at last. I was beginning to lose hope.

Dragonknight tears - the drink for winners.

jeraldob16_ESO · May 2014

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aG5l436mg1A

tinythinker · May 2014

Shanan wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Shanan wrote: »

Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.

So the maturity level on the forums is finally showing signs of improvement at last. I was beginning to lose hope.

Dragonknight tears - the drink for winners.

Excellent! You've now written two of the most thoughtful things I've seen on the forums today concerning the update. But can you keep the streak, and this very special thread, alive? Will anyone else try to activate the humor synergy for your comments? Can I ask any more superfluous questions? What was I talking about, again?

tinythinker · May 2014

jeraldob16_ESO wrote: »

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aG5l436mg1A

The story behind that video is as funny (and tragic) as the video itself. Any thread this big seems destined to become a troll feeding ground. At least no one has tried starting the "WoW was the first MMO" bit. Yet.

$Infraction$ · May 2014

Could be worse you could have been playing a nigh made up to this point.

Soloeus · May 2014

Holy big bold letters, batman! Wow!

TL;DR.

This is an L2P game, "Learn to Play" so I suggest you learn to play the game. Otherwise have some cheez with your whine and cya in Cyrodil!

Utherix · May 2014

Everyone is ignoring the fact that it is much harder to generate ultimate with AoE nerf. Ultimate is the main way DKs can restore their magicka. Do the math.

Attorneyatlawl · May 2014

davidgawronrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Don't see why I'm reading shock into your post. Go to youtube and search for DK soloing Craglorn delves and you knew the nerf bat was gonna swing hard.

That was post nerfs, and by an experienced player who knows how to play well

. Nerf skill?

smercgames_ESO · May 2014

Too many posts to read that I really don't care about, I just want to throw in

HAH! You knew nerfs were coming and any DK who thought that overall the class was balanced was freaking insane. Play a NB and tell me that DK skills are balanced.

Maybe now PvP might actually be fun... well.. once they fix some more stupid things that go on. Mainly Melee oil, small spikes on the floor making you able to catch siege weapon projectiles and any other bugs or stupid exploits I'm not aware of at the moment.

tinythinker · May 2014

Utherix wrote: »

Everyone is ignoring the fact that it is much harder to generate ultimate with AoE nerf. Ultimate is the main way DKs can restore their magicka. Do the math.

Ignoring? Or don't care? Lots of players have been popping corks over the idea of weakened DKs regardless of the details, and not just those out trolling. There have been many people against as well as some for the nerf looking at numbers and actual affect/impact, debating whether this kind of thing is a big deal. But that takes, well, effort.

NordJitsu · May 2014

@Attorneyatlawl‌

I look forward to your next video where you do the same thing with your class that has been "nerfed into uselessness."

Won't shut people up, because, you know, people don't care about facts. But I'll still enjoy the irony of it.

Zebug · May 2014

monkeymystic wrote: »

This is what nobody understand, because like you say, Inhale never was strong to begin with.

At VR 10 Inhale sucked before patch. It was expensive and uneffective. And now it is zero point using it in any build at all.

They might as well remove Inhale from the game and return the skill point as it is now. Because it's not worth anything.

So if it sucked so bad before the patch, I assume you weren't using it? So since you weren't using it, why are you crying so much that it is now worse?

OR....were you using it all the time so it was actually pretty good and you are a liar? So are you a liar or does it not effect you at all?

Shanan · May 2014

tinythinker wrote: »

Shanan wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Shanan wrote: »

Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.

So the maturity level on the forums is finally showing signs of improvement at last. I was beginning to lose hope.

Dragonknight tears - the drink for winners.

Excellent! You've now written two of the most thoughtful things I've seen on the forums today concerning the update. But can you keep the streak, and this very special thread, alive? Will anyone else try to activate the humor synergy for your comments? Can I ask any more superfluous questions? What was I talking about, again?

It is dk tears raining tomrrow, still it is a day when the sun is shining for me! ;--)

sad dkman

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Drachenfier · May 2014

Zebug wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

This is what nobody understand, because like you say, Inhale never was strong to begin with.

At VR 10 Inhale sucked before patch. It was expensive and uneffective. And now it is zero point using it in any build at all.

They might as well remove Inhale from the game and return the skill point as it is now. Because it's not worth anything.

So if it sucked so bad before the patch, I assume you weren't using it?

The only time it didn't suck is when you had a large amount of targets for it to hit.

See where the problem lies....?

Bolo_Bob · May 2014

Zebug wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

This is what nobody understand, because like you say, Inhale never was strong to begin with.

At VR 10 Inhale sucked before patch. It was expensive and uneffective. And now it is zero point using it in any build at all.

They might as well remove Inhale from the game and return the skill point as it is now. Because it's not worth anything.

So if it sucked so bad before the patch, I assume you weren't using it? So since you weren't using it, why are you crying so much that it is now worse?

OR....were you using it all the time so it was actually pretty good and you are a liar? So are you a liar or does it not effect you at all?

oh look.... a donkey.

tinythinker · May 2014

@‌Shanan

I think that last one is a topper. No need to try to buff it.

monkeymystic · May 2014

Zebug wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

This is what nobody understand, because like you say, Inhale never was strong to begin with.

At VR 10 Inhale sucked before patch. It was expensive and uneffective. And now it is zero point using it in any build at all.

They might as well remove Inhale from the game and return the skill point as it is now. Because it's not worth anything.

So if it sucked so bad before the patch, I assume you weren't using it? So since you weren't using it, why are you crying so much that it is now worse?

OR....were you using it all the time so it was actually pretty good and you are a liar? So are you a liar or does it not effect you at all?

How do you even make sense out of your own words?

It was subpar before the nerf, some used it, some don't. I didn't use it often, but it was ok for tanking in PvE sometimes. I hoped they would fix it and atleast cost less than it's current expensive cost. Instead they nerfed it to oblivion for no reason.

Aren't class abilities supposed to be *usable* instead of *useless*, and atleast even in certain builds and situations?
What you think is crying, is just the fact that I wish my class ability Inhale would actually give me some use at ALL, instead of being completely pointless at everything.

What is the purpose of rolling a class, or spending points in a class tree if the ability is 100% useless in any given situation, like Inhale is after the nerf?

You seriously don't get that? Atleast make the ability viable for SOMETHING. Right now it's not.

Liquid_Time · May 2014

-Looks around- "hahah.."

ElSlayer · May 2014

tinythinker wrote: »

Shanan wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Shanan wrote: »

Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.
Dragon Knights tears taste so endlessly good.

So the maturity level on the forums is finally showing signs of improvement at last. I was beginning to lose hope.

Dragonknight tears - the drink for winners.

Excellent! You've now written two of the most thoughtful things I've seen on the forums today concerning the update. But can you keep the streak, and this very special thread, alive? Will anyone else try to activate the humor synergy for your comments? Can I ask any more superfluous questions? What was I talking about, again?