Instead of Nerfing Werewolves to the ground again... BUFF Fighters guild skills and its passives

RaikaNA · August 14

ZOS did right by the werewolves by making werewolves... actual werewolves in the U50 patch. These are apex predators who shouldn't get so tired so easily. The increase in the cost of resources to use a skill doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

People are frustrated with the werewolves because the developers (ZOS) provide no useful tools to counterattack these apex predators. Instead of nerfing werewolves... why not buff the Fighters Guild skills and its passives so that people can use these skills to prepare themselves to fight against the undead and the supernatural creatures.

So without making this too long, let's go over the Fighters Guild skills that I feel need a HUGE buff..

Active abilities:
Silver bolt needs a complete makeover... Range DPS should be able to choose a Silver crossbow morph option, while melee players should be able to select a silver sword morph option. This skill should be the new spammable. The abilities should have a painful sting DoT effect against Vampires and Werewolves and increase the dmg.

Circle of Protection should provide the user protection from incoming dmg from werewolves and vampires as long as they're inside the circle... if a vampire/werewolf steps inside the circle will receive DoT damage, and their incoming dmg is reduced by a certain amount.

Expert hunter: There should be a vampire morph to use to fight against vampires, and then there should be the other morph that is available to help players fight against werewolves.

Arunei · August 14

They also could spend a week or two testing reduced stat return from CoE, which makes sustain on WW super easy. Increasing the Stam Skill cost is only going to drive everyone who WASN'T a Sorc WW to being one, which is going to decrease build diversity.

Either that or do as others suggested, which is make it that WW Skills cost whichever resource is higher. At least then Mag WWs won't get gutted from the Stam cost increase, since all the Skills would cost Mag save the heal, which should default to Stam if they implemented this.

This is an issue a number of us have been pointing out way back in the PTS days of U50. Certain Class Masteries can make certain builds overperform, such as Static Reverb for damage and CoE for sustain. Both of them were problems on WW then and still are now, yet instead of adjusting the thing causing the toxic interaction, they go after the thing benefiting from it. Unfortunately, that nerfs the people who weren't running that stuff and just pushes them into running it if they don't want to redo their builds entirely.

Wuuffyy · August 14

Adjust class masteries (focus sorc CoE) or all, raise poison damage back to 25%, raise FG to an absurd number (50% to account for lack of onslaught pen).

You could absolutely focus on counters b/c as it stands we are going to end up in a far worse balance situation than before rework (we are gearing up to be significantly worse than pre-rework In PvP especially considering everything we’ve given up so far to be in THIS state) AND we have to worry about other specs being reworked and becoming viable and competitive also.

tsaescishoeshiner · August 17

I don't think a rock-paper-scissors approach would be best, especially not in battlegrounds where your team is small and randomized. That would mean needing to slot skills, or using addons to change builds, only when you see werewolves.

I think keeping their overall power more limited is better, or amplifying a more commonly-used weakness like poison damage.

Bushido2513 · August 17

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

I don't think a rock-paper-scissors approach would be best, especially not in battlegrounds where your team is small and randomized. That would mean needing to slot skills, or using addons to change builds, only when you see werewolves.

I think keeping their overall power more limited is better, or amplifying a more commonly-used weakness like poison damage.

This also doesn't really work with stuck in combat situations. Being a wolf hunter sounds cool but the structure of the game doesn't really support it.

Fighters guild needs a rework because it really doesn't have any lore/ power connection right now.

If they had reworked it at the same time as wolf, that might have been interesting.