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Tbagging should not be a bannable offense
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Radiate77✭✭✭✭✭
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Edited by Radiate77 on August 13, 2026 8:24PMFounder of New Age Crusade, the #1 Battlegrounds guild on Xbox NA6 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »
Do you see any game that your main objetive is to SA as much people as possible?
You didn't answer my question, which is worse? Homicide or SA? Bagging isn't even anything near SA in gaming culture
Is irrelevant, you are comparing a game theme common that only some "moral panic" people attack (games with murder) to a crime that is viewed with disgust on almost every culture and is not accepeable not even in war (it is considered a war crime)
Burning people is a warcrime, does that make every DK a warcriminal and ESO a war crime simulator?1 -
AdonisJorge✭✭✭
Well, i can only assume you are trolling, there is no use trying yo dialogueXVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »
Do you see any game that your main objetive is to SA as much people as possible?
You didn't answer my question, which is worse? Homicide or SA? Bagging isn't even anything near SA in gaming culture
Is irrelevant, you are comparing a game theme common that only some "moral panic" people attack (games with murder) to a crime that is viewed with disgust on almost every culture and is not accepeable not even in war (it is considered a war crime)
Burning people is a warcrime, does that make every DK a warcriminal and ESO a war crime simulator?6 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »
Sexual Assault apology
Thats so offensive that you even say that! I hate SA! I have seen what it has done to my friends! How dare you even insinuate that! You should be ashamed!!
Then think more before making nonsense analogies
Everything I have said is sound logically. You have not been able to argue one point except for calling me a SA apologist which is the same as just calling me a racist or hurling some other insult that makes no sense1 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭AdonisJorge wrote: »
Well, i can only assume you are trolling, there is no use trying yo dialogueXVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »
Do you see any game that your main objetive is to SA as much people as possible?
You didn't answer my question, which is worse? Homicide or SA? Bagging isn't even anything near SA in gaming culture
Is irrelevant, you are comparing a game theme common that only some "moral panic" people attack (games with murder) to a crime that is viewed with disgust on almost every culture and is not accepeable not even in war (it is considered a war crime)
Burning people is a warcrime, does that make every DK a warcriminal and ESO a war crime simulator?
Oh so I immediately catch you out in your false argument and now I am not worth talking to? Lol Thats about as much as i expect0 -
DoofusMax✭✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »I wholeheartedly disagree
You're welcome to do that. ZOS, however, has put that behavior as falling within the ToS (which you agreed to abide by when you installed the game). You can think it's a bad decision all you want, and heaven knows that there are a bunch of such decisions in my personal "very questionable" category, but don't come complaining if they act on it. It's not a single-player game where you can do whatever you feel like with no effects beyond the privacy of your own living room.I'm fresh out of outrage, but I could muster up some amused annoyance if required.9 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »
Well, i can only assume you are trolling, there is no use trying yo dialogueXVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »
Do you see any game that your main objetive is to SA as much people as possible?
You didn't answer my question, which is worse? Homicide or SA? Bagging isn't even anything near SA in gaming culture
Is irrelevant, you are comparing a game theme common that only some "moral panic" people attack (games with murder) to a crime that is viewed with disgust on almost every culture and is not accepeable not even in war (it is considered a war crime)
Burning people is a warcrime, does that make every DK a warcriminal and ESO a war crime simulator?
Oh so I immediately catch you out in your false argument and now I am not worth talking to? Lol Thats about as much as i expect
Maybe you should think more before making nonsense analogies, AdonisJorge0 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »I wholeheartedly disagree
You're welcome to do that. ZOS, however, has put that behavior as falling within the ToS (which you agreed to abide by when you installed the game). You can think it's a bad decision all you want, and heaven knows that there are a bunch of such decisions in my personal "very questionable" category, but don't come complaining if they act on it. It's not a single-player game where you can do whatever you feel like with no effects beyond the privacy of your own living room.
Well thats what this whole post is about. I am hoping to spark discussion about the topic that would hopefully lead to change.0 -
BagOfBadgers✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »
Sexual Assault apology
Thats so offensive that you even say that! I hate SA! I have seen what it has done to my friends! How dare you even insinuate that! You should be ashamed!!
If my “friend” was using a SAs that I endured to make a crappy point on a forum, they would no longer be my “friend”!Proud member of the "One shot boss, wipe on trash" club.
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Soarora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am a child of the internet and never, ever, have considered that T-bagging could be sexual. It's always just been a "salt in the wound" being a poor winner move to me. If people are incredibly upset about T-bagging to the point of thinking someone should be banned for it, they shouldn't be doing PvP.[PC/NA] Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS), Semi-retired Trialist, and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore.
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XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭BagOfBadgers wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »
Sexual Assault apology
Thats so offensive that you even say that! I hate SA! I have seen what it has done to my friends! How dare you even insinuate that! You should be ashamed!!
If my “friend” was using a SAs that I endured to make a crappy point on a forum, they would no longer be my “friend”!
I am not using what my friends have went through to prove my point about bagging. Bagging is not SA less so than killing a player could be called homicide. I basically got called an SA apologist which is just such a terrible thing to say about anyone. Alls I said is bagging is video game culture and people shouldn't have their accounts deleted because of it and I get called an SA apologist? Thats evil0 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am a child of the internet and never, ever, have considered that T-bagging could be sexual. It's always just been a "salt in the wound" being a poor winner move to me. If people are incredibly upset about T-bagging to the point of thinking someone should be banned for it, they shouldn't be doing PvP.
How can anyone not see the sexual component behind it? You do know what represents the Tea Bags and what represents the container they're being dipped in.. right?
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LadyGP✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Heck yeah, another one of these threads?
I'm here for it (sips tea).
- xCatGuyEdited by LadyGP on August 13, 2026 8:44PMLadyGP/xCatGuy
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BagOfBadgers✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »BagOfBadgers wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »AdonisJorge wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »
Sexual Assault apology
Thats so offensive that you even say that! I hate SA! I have seen what it has done to my friends! How dare you even insinuate that! You should be ashamed!!
If my “friend” was using a SAs that I endured to make a crappy point on a forum, they would no longer be my “friend”!
I am not using what my friends have went through to prove my point about bagging. Bagging is not SA less so than killing a player could be called homicide. I basically got called an SA apologist which is just such a terrible thing to say about anyone. Alls I said is bagging is video game culture and people shouldn't have their accounts deleted because of it and I get called an SA apologist? Thats evil
As a SA and the whole menagerie of abuse survivor and if “friend” used me as a point on a forum, they would no longer be a friend and I would view them tasteless ……..
On that I’m out. I can use myself as a point of reference but others don’t get that same privilege.Proud member of the "One shot boss, wipe on trash" club.
Believe in the KISS priceable "Keep It Simple Stupid".
My Dyslexia makes the forum the true Vet HM for me.0 -
JavaRen✭✭✭✭✭
✭I dislike the wishy-washy-ness of this policy. Either bagging is an offensive act, in which case it is punishable, or it is not offensive and should just be allowed. This situation where it is offensive after the recipient has jumped through olympic level hoops strikes me as a weak will cosplaying as reasonable compromise.
Personally I'd prefer a strong stance banning the action, but even more I'd like ZOS to just have a stance and settle this.3 -
Soarora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »I am a child of the internet and never, ever, have considered that T-bagging could be sexual. It's always just been a "salt in the wound" being a poor winner move to me. If people are incredibly upset about T-bagging to the point of thinking someone should be banned for it, they shouldn't be doing PvP.
How can anyone not see the sexual component behind it? You do know what represents the Tea Bags and what represents the container they're being dipped in.. right?
Yes, I know how people consider it to be sexual from thinking about it in that context. My point was that independently, I never would've come up with that concept, therefore not everyone is going to consider it that way.[PC/NA] Dungeoneer (Tank/DPS), Semi-retired Trialist, and amateur Battlegrounder (DPS) with a passion for The Elder Scrolls lore.
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AScarlato✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Based on some recent threads I think at some point we will have more banned players than those who can access the game lol.1 -
ZOS_CouchTatoadminAfter cleaning up some back-and-forth arguments, I'd like to remind you all to keep conversation civil and constructive. Please keep in mind the Community Rules moving forward.2 -
SilverBride✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It would be nice if players didn't feel the need to rub anything in someone else's face after defeating them in combat. Especially when it mimics doing an offensive action such as tbagging. Isn't being victorious satisfaction enough?PCNA16 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »It would be nice if players didn't feel the need to rub anything in someone else's face after defeating them in combat. Especially when it mimics doing an offensive action such as tbagging. Isn't being victorious satisfaction enough?
I agree, but I don't think people should be banned for doing it1 -
Munkfist✭✭✭✭✭While it doesn't bother me when people do it, I find it no less a childish thing that speaks loudly about those that feel the need to do it, and defend it.
It's been in every game I've played since UO, and my stance hasn't changed since; The need to teabag others is just a sign of immaturity that reflects poorly on the pvp community as a whole.@Munkfist PC-NA
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MeridiaFavorsMe✭✭✭I honestly don’t care what they decide. Whether teabagging is allowed or not, I just want the rule to be applied consistently.
There are certain streamers who teabag constantly and never seem to face any consequences, while I’m afraid to teabag at all because I know I’d probably catch a ban for it. I personally know a lot of people who have been banned for teabagging, so it’s hard to understand where the line is supposed to be.
If it’s against the rules, enforce it consistently. If it’s not, then let people do it. The inconsistency is the real problem.4 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭While it doesn't bother me when people do it, I find it no less a childish thing that speaks loudly about those that feel the need to do it, and defend it.
It's been in every game I've played since UO, and my stance hasn't changed since; The need to teabag others is just a sign of immaturity that reflects poorly on the pvp community as a whole.
I mean yeah, thats true, but I feel like you could say the entirety of ESO is childish and a sign of immaturity if you want to look at it like that from that point of view to be fair. I mean we're running around as elves or cats or orcs on flashy, goofy mounts fighting npcs and building houses and fashioning and stuff in pve. I mean its all immature but I still love ESO and enjoy it and have fun on it. Thats why I play it lol. that being said, I am not saying teabagging is just an integral part of the game like light attack weaving, but it is part of gaming culture and it would be foolish to try and police it as that just causes more problems. Like collecting screenshots of someone teabagging, then after the fact whispering them to stop and reporting with the screenshots before you whispered them. On top of this, nobody really knows this is bannable. That and I don't think anyone should have their entire account wiped out with however many hundreds or thousands of hours of progress and dollars invested just gone for teabagging no matter how much they do it0 -
Munkfist✭✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »While it doesn't bother me when people do it, I find it no less a childish thing that speaks loudly about those that feel the need to do it, and defend it.
It's been in every game I've played since UO, and my stance hasn't changed since; The need to teabag others is just a sign of immaturity that reflects poorly on the pvp community as a whole.
I mean yeah, thats true, but I feel like you could say the entirety of ESO is childish and a sign of immaturity if you want to look at it like that from that point of view to be fair. I mean we're running around as elves or cats or orcs on flashy, goofy mounts fighting npcs and building houses and fashioning and stuff in pve. I mean its all immature but I still love ESO and enjoy it and have fun on it. Thats why I play it lol. that being said, I am not saying teabagging is just an integral part of the game like light attack weaving, but it is part of gaming culture and it would be foolish to try and police it as that just causes more problems. Like collecting screenshots of someone teabagging, then after the fact whispering them to stop and reporting with the screenshots before you whispered them. On top of this, nobody really knows this is bannable. That and I don't think anyone should have their entire account wiped out with however many hundreds or thousands of hours of progress and dollars invested just gone for teabagging no matter how much they do it
Gaming itself isn't a sign of immaturity at all. Feeling the need to teabag after someone dies (usually not by the one teabagging), is childish. What is the inherent need you have with doing it? Because it was done in games since you were a kid? Self gratification? I'm curious what people feel the need to do it and defend it, genuinely.
If there are consequences of doing it, like losing many hundreds or thousands of hours and dollars, it seems like the mature thing would be to just not do it?
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albertberku✭✭✭✭Now i am checking my ignored list and if i am in online mode every time before i start tbagging. I am at the edge of a permaban, got multiple warnings and bans because of tbagging. And tbagging is the only offence that i got a warning for in ESO in 10 years.
There are some players that i really would love to put on ignored list since they hate whisper me at every possibility. But i just cant ignore people for prolonged time because if i were to tbag them they just record acting like they are trying to whisper me to stop and report me. Got most of my warnings and 72h ban because i was in Offline Mode while tbagging.Edited by albertberku on August 13, 2026 11:54PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »It would be nice if players didn't feel the need to rub anything in someone else's face after defeating them in combat. Especially when it mimics doing an offensive action such as tbagging. Isn't being victorious satisfaction enough?
I agree, but I don't think people should be banned for doing it
Has ZOS's official position changed on this? Historically they have not considered it actionable per se. They consider it actionable when you ignore someone's request to stop and repeat the unwanted action despite that request, the same way they consider it harassment to continue to mudball someone after you've been asked to stop.4 -
ESO_player123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭albertberku wrote: »Now i am checking my ignored list and if i am in online mode every time before i start tbagging. I am at the edge of a permaban, got multiple warnings and bans because of tbagging. And tbagging is the only offence that i got a warning for in ESO in 10 years.
There are some players that i really would love to put on ignored list since they hate whisper me at every possibility. But i just cant ignore people for prolonged time because if i were to tbag them they just record acting like they are trying to whisper me to stop and report me. Got most of my warnings and 72h ban because i was in Offline Mode while tbagging.
One time - did not know, second time - decided to test the waters, ..., after many times it should be logical to stop doing it, no?11 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »While it doesn't bother me when people do it, I find it no less a childish thing that speaks loudly about those that feel the need to do it, and defend it.
It's been in every game I've played since UO, and my stance hasn't changed since; The need to teabag others is just a sign of immaturity that reflects poorly on the pvp community as a whole.
I mean yeah, thats true, but I feel like you could say the entirety of ESO is childish and a sign of immaturity if you want to look at it like that from that point of view to be fair. I mean we're running around as elves or cats or orcs on flashy, goofy mounts fighting npcs and building houses and fashioning and stuff in pve. I mean its all immature but I still love ESO and enjoy it and have fun on it. Thats why I play it lol. that being said, I am not saying teabagging is just an integral part of the game like light attack weaving, but it is part of gaming culture and it would be foolish to try and police it as that just causes more problems. Like collecting screenshots of someone teabagging, then after the fact whispering them to stop and reporting with the screenshots before you whispered them. On top of this, nobody really knows this is bannable. That and I don't think anyone should have their entire account wiped out with however many hundreds or thousands of hours of progress and dollars invested just gone for teabagging no matter how much they do it
Gaming itself isn't a sign of immaturity at all. Feeling the need to teabag after someone dies (usually not by the one teabagging), is childish. What is the inherent need you have with doing it? Because it was done in games since you were a kid? Self gratification? I'm curious what people feel the need to do it and defend it, genuinely.
If there are consequences of doing it, like losing many hundreds or thousands of hours and dollars, it seems like the mature thing would be to just not do it?
I would put to you that reporting, and the banning of players for bagging is childish. Its not good for ESO in any way to remove players for something so meaningless3 -
albertberku✭✭✭✭First time, someone told me to stop, and i didnt stop. Then i got a warning and learned that when someone tells you to stop tbagging you have to stop. Which i thought really weird thing in a PvP game. But ok.
Then got even weirder. I was in Offline Mode just not to talk with people. Then i got another warning at some point. Then they said it doesnt matter if i am in Offline Mode. It is ok if they try to whisper me and record it. Even weirder. And the 3rd time was a 72h ban i think i forgot myself in Offline Mode. That is why now i am checking to make sure i am in Online Mode and my Ignored List is empty before tbagging.
I am more amazed for the fact that there are PvP players that actually stop playing, start whispering, recording everything and then creating a report. I am more amazed than anything else that some people actually give effort and time for doing this. I mean if it hurts you so much then either respawn or do something else than watching your corpse that is receiving a tbag.Edited by albertberku on August 14, 2026 12:11AM2 -
Munkfist✭✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »I would put to you that reporting, and the banning of players for bagging is childish. Its not good for ESO in any way to remove players for something so meaningless
It's a reaction some people have to childish/toxic/senseless behavior.
I'm still curious what the need/addiction to rubbing your pixelated *** on someone stems from?@Munkfist PC-NA
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