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WW nerfs and Ele sus Nerfs both are major Ws! Thank you ZOS! Now nerf Core of Flame please!
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Just wanted to say the cost increases to WW abilities and elemental Susceptibility are fantastic changes I am really happy to see them! I just wanted to compliment the team on listening to feedback and giving nerfs that are just right and not too much and not too little. I think these two changes are MASSIVE steps in the right direction and I love to see it. Thank you ZOS!!!! THIS IS A ROCKIN' CHANGE!!!
I hope we can continue in this direction to make sustain a more important part in build crafting for all classes and not something that is just so free.
I think the next step is nerfing Core of Flame on DK as it is way too powerful of a sustain tool that also does crazy burst AOE dmg and healing for a class thats already S+ tier and has other fantastic sustain tools in their passives and class masteries just built in.
I hope we can continue in this direction to make sustain a more important part in build crafting for all classes and not something that is just so free.
I think the next step is nerfing Core of Flame on DK as it is way too powerful of a sustain tool that also does crazy burst AOE dmg and healing for a class thats already S+ tier and has other fantastic sustain tools in their passives and class masteries just built in.
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aLi3nZ✭✭✭✭Remove the heal from the flame lash and remove or nerf the damage mitigation from wings. See how it goes like that. Maybe nerf heart of flame if required after that.1
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XVestigeXx✭✭✭Remove the heal from the flame lash and remove or nerf the damage mitigation from wings. See how it goes like that. Maybe nerf heart of flame if required after that.Remove the heal from the flame lash and remove or nerf the damage mitigation from wings. See how it goes like that. Maybe nerf heart of flame if required after that.
I would also get rid of the sustain from core of flame0 -
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✭✭✭✭So WW is pushed further into being Sorc?Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.0 -
CatalinaWineMixer2✭✭✭✭Just like the original Dragonknight, here we go again. 11 years later. GH - "I died, everyone needs nerfed." Stop ruining our characters! PvP was going to be "fixed" if we did something about Warden Charm, it was going to be fixed if we did something about Shattered Path, it was going to be fixed if we do something about healers, it was going to be fixed if we gut the Sorcerer... on and on like a broken record.
Game breaking nerfs are destroying this game. And it needs to end. You want balance again, revert all combat to pre U46. Thats the problem. That's as close as you will ever get because Subclass has completely ruined combat and left us dependent upon years of refreshes. And it cannot and will not ever be balanced.
Alternatively, remove GH. At least the nerfs will stop. And then the rest of us will not wonder if we should keep waiting on our unrefreshed, inferior characters or whether or not we want to pretend that a small vocal minority will not ruin the rest of them for us.
If you're calling for nerfs, show us your build. Because it probably needs nerfed.3 -
aLi3nZ✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »So WW is pushed further into being Sorc?
Hey at least less of those annoying warden users with aries cry1 -
Luneca✭✭✭✭✭CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »Just like the original Dragonknight, here we go again. 11 years later. GH - "I died, everyone needs nerfed." Stop ruining our characters! PvP was going to be "fixed" if we did something about Warden Charm, it was going to be fixed if we did something about Shattered Path, it was going to be fixed if we do something about healers, it was going to be fixed if we gut the Sorcerer... on and on like a broken record.
Game breaking nerfs are destroying this game. And it needs to end. You want balance again, revert all combat to pre U46. Thats the problem. That's as close as you will ever get because Subclass has completely ruined combat and left us dependent upon years of refreshes. And it cannot and will not ever be balanced.
Alternatively, remove GH. At least the nerfs will stop. And then the rest of us will not wonder if we should keep waiting on our unrefreshed, inferior characters or whether or not we want to pretend that a small vocal minority will not ruin the rest of them for us.
If you're calling for nerfs, show us your build. Because it probably needs nerfed.
In PvP I am using: 5 Histwhisper [light], 2 Chudan, 5 Bloodthorn.
Oh I forgot my biggest build component: 6-8 coldfire siege fired with almost 100% accuracy on the same person.0 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »Just like the original Dragonknight, here we go again. 11 years later. GH - "I died, everyone needs nerfed." Stop ruining our characters! PvP was going to be "fixed" if we did something about Warden Charm, it was going to be fixed if we did something about Shattered Path, it was going to be fixed if we do something about healers, it was going to be fixed if we gut the Sorcerer... on and on like a broken record.
Game breaking nerfs are destroying this game. And it needs to end. You want balance again, revert all combat to pre U46. Thats the problem. That's as close as you will ever get because Subclass has completely ruined combat and left us dependent upon years of refreshes. And it cannot and will not ever be balanced.
Alternatively, remove GH. At least the nerfs will stop. And then the rest of us will not wonder if we should keep waiting on our unrefreshed, inferior characters or whether or not we want to pretend that a small vocal minority will not ruin the rest of them for us.
If you're calling for nerfs, show us your build. Because it probably needs nerfed.
Sorry you feel that way, I think you're wrong, and I'll explain why, nut since reworks are so far out now I do think we should buff up other classes as opposed to just nerfing DK into the ground. That said, sustain is something they just don't have to think about because its so free in their kit with no give and take with anything else like dmg or tankyness.
And its not exactly like Zos can just remove subclassing now or even the refreshed DK.
But lets be honest here, WW was infinitely more annoying to fight than a dk because it was very similar to the WW meta from a few years ago when a WW could tank a whole group while delivering overwhelming pressure with no sustain issues whatsoever. 40k hp tank wws that pressure people down in seconds and are unable to be bursted have been ruining pvp for everyone. They are more disruptive and annoying than even DK because WW is easier to use. Its easier for average or mediocre pvpers to abuse WW and not die while having everything and killing everyone than it is for them to use DK. I welcome this change, it grounds them more and I think DK should get the same treatment. Power creep is a thing as well to keep in mind.
These were good changes, even if you don't think they are. WHy don't you try playing a templar, a nightblade, a necro, an arc, or a warden and go fight the WWs out in pvp without WW yourself and let us know your findings before the PTS hits the live servers? I think that would help your perspective a lot0 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »So WW is pushed further into being Sorc?
This is the same as a parent telling their kid to get their hand out of the cookie jar and the kid turning around and exclaiming "So you want me to starve?!"1
