Gem of Agility ??

AzuraFan · July 24

Haenk wrote: »

Oh and those seven and a half hours wasted do mean nothing.

Well, I did get a lot of reading done. But in terms of the game, this feature seems designed to make you NOT play the game.

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

They simply refuse to learn from past rng issues. The anniversary event with the special style pages. The writhing wall event where the rng was bugged for some of the drops needed to complete the event dailies (I believe this was also true for the Necrom community event). New Breton furnishings that some players simply cannot attain with any level of effort, but are clearly dropping for others from the listings.

And on and on, it just creates a terrible experience for players who don't have the right seed or have a cursed account or whatever we wanna call it - particularly when the task involved is trivial and not even remotely fun or engaging to repeat endlessly. Give me something fun and challenging to do and I'll grind the heck out of it for a rare drop. But make the game feel like work and I'll run to something more fun.

Yeah, it's weird. Same mistake, over and over. I play more (and feel better about the game) when I'm able to accomplish stuff. I feel bad about the game when I invest time and get nothing in return. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

For me, right now, it's nowhere keys. Haven't received a single one out in the wild. Just the three from doing 10 favours. I'm concerned that I won't have enough keys to participate in the Nowhere Vault when it drops. Guess I'll see.

ApoAlaia · July 24

I just got one today, first one I have seen in 217 DEs and counting.

Let's see how many more until I get the 2nd and 3rd (I am not going to bother with the rest of the accounts because life's too short).

It will be interesting to see if they keep the same drop rate with the ones that are supposed to drop from rumours and the vault.

allochthons · July 24

I'm only doing the Stonefalls event, so at least I can get Red Fungus, and then doing chores between events (timer on phone). But 10 hour days, almost every day since the dynamic encounters dropped, no gem.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Can you PLEASE check with the devs? This better be a bug, because this is crazy.

(ETA: Doing Glenumbra once/day, for the Parched stone, to give to a friend who can't log on right now.)

msetten · July 25

I have finally finally gotten the gem of agility. It dropped for me from the last box of the Audiron Dynamic Event. I know that I won't be doing any of these Dynamic Event for a long time. It has sucked the fun out of me for these activities.

fizl101 · July 25

I’m still waiting for mine, doing all chests on all three encounters. I have had the recipe 4 times and still need the outfit guards. On 61 red lichen so far…..

allochthons · July 25

90 Red Lichen, 4-5 recipes (I've lost count), no gem.

Dalsinthus · July 25

I parked a character on the Auridon DE and checked in every half hour today from mid-morning until 4 pm today in an effort to get the last style page I need and the gem. I ended up doing 13 of these events just today, mostly Auridon but a few opportunistic runs of the other two, while I was doing chores. The result was a bunch of gear I don’t need because I already have it, some empty soul gems, and one red lichen. No style pages and certainly no agility gem.

I’m done.

We only get so many lazy Saturdays in our lives and I’m going to spend mine doing things that are much more fun than this “content.” ZOS you got to better if this game is going to continue on.

Nemesis7884 · July 25

What zos never learns for some reason...2 things you should never do in mmos
1. waste players time; especially when most of your players are middle aged where time is the one thing you dont have.
2. Make players compete for the same resources.

fizl101 · July 26

About 180 or so de (lost count) and finally got the gem

heaven13 · July 26

Am over the 30 dynamic encounters for sure (got the achievement a week ago); have done probably 10 Stonefalls ones this morning by hopping from instance to instance and I don't have the gem or the recipe. I haven't been farming the event on my thief which I know people have said shouldn't matter but I'm going to try to see. I'll take some confirmation bias even if it's all wrong if it just gets me the drops.

As others have said, if I want to be playing ESO, I want to play it, not sit around waiting for events that will randomly spawn at SOME point for some loot that is far more likely than not to be absent.

Nemesis7884 · July 26

Zos really needs to learn not to make grind boring and frustrating....i much rather do a fun dungeon or some pvp to get a drop rather than this 30min wait followed by 5min mind numbingly boring content rotation

taiyoukei · July 26

I've done at least 30 of these dynamic encounters and still no gem drop. I think I'm going to stop doing these things until the drop rate is improved as I have little time to stand around and wait and wait.

Elvenheart · July 26

taiyoukei wrote: »

I've done at least 30 of these dynamic encounters and still no gem drop. I think I'm going to stop doing these things until the drop rate is improved as I have little time to stand around and wait and wait.

Same, i’m giving them a rest until they start popping every 15 minutes in Update 51 when they make that change.

Meridiano · July 26

I've completed 30 encounters, 10 times each, this means how many chests I've looted, at least 60? And I didn't get the fragment. My honest reaction is to hell that, this relic is not useful enough to engage me into this grind. I'm done with it.

Corbiel · July 26

I've lost count how many DE I did, without getting the gem. It's so frustrating and boring. You can't even leave zone while waiting, because when porting back you might land in a different instance of the zone, where the DE is just over. Now it's just standing around with nothing to do.

Could you PLEASE add some kind of countdown or make it possible to track active DE while ppl are outside the zone?

MidniteOwl1913 · July 27

agelonestar wrote: »

ESO always had horribly inequitable loot drops. I'm convinced there's something fundamentally wrong with their maths, and I know I'm not the only one who believes that.

How hard can it be to put in some kind of override so you don't have to do the same content 100 times?

Personally, I have stopped worrying about it. I just won't do content that works like this. Eventually there'll be nothing left to do and I'll be another player, here since the start, gone from the game.

Yes some point there should be a "mercy drop" where the drop rate is 100% to put you out of your misery.

madman65 · July 27

agelonestar wrote: »

Is there a way to predict / track Dynamic Encounters or are people just hanging around?

I don't have as much game time as I used to, so I don't like the hanging around option! I just wondered if there was a timer or an add-on or a setting I'm missing (like the F5 for Skirmishes in the NM).

There is but all the gamers would have to work together. I ran the Glenumbra then the Auridon and then Stonefalls back to back. It was sweet but very close together. There is however a cooldown on the drops because I got some good stuff the first DE but crap from the second and third. I would go as far to say "that`s the problem with the drops" for the gems.

Nemesis7884 · July 27

I assume you dont need to wear or carry the prowler talisman for the gem to drop?

Silaf · July 27

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

I assume you dont need to wear or carry the prowler talisman for the gem to drop?

No you don't i wasen't wearing mine when i dropped it.

I dropped mine at my 105 run in an intermediate chest not the final one so don't forget to loot them all.
This mytic should be more powerful to match the insane grind needed to complete it.

Oh and this is slightly unrelated but nowhere keys have a fitting name. I only dropped 2 in my 105 dynamic encounters (they have absolutly nothing dynamic in them who is naming tings lol).

newnamtab · July 27

Yeah.. The grind is real, most of the time..
I got it yesterday (as some other players mention)

Now I'm looking for granny's eel pie reciepe.. And the "10 encounter items to get a ability style"

Not sure I like these dynamic encounters.. For a game that was supposed to be a lot less FOMO, it seems to go in the opposite direction:
* Do these things before the end of the week.
* Get an EXTREMELY rare item, doing this rare event that you have to wait for 30 to begin, and if you miss it, you'll have to wait another 30 minuttes. (OH and theres 3 of them at the same time)
* get this within the next 2 months, or it goes away..
* Oh and there's a few events popping in..
* remember there's new content coming in a few weeks..

But enjoy your game, the way YOU want to play.

allochthons · July 27

newnamtab wrote: »

Not sure I like these dynamic encounters.. For a game that was supposed to be a lot less FOMO, it seems to go in the opposite direction:
* Do these things before the end of the week.
* Get an EXTREMELY rare item, doing this rare event that you have to wait for 30 to begin, and if you miss it, you'll have to wait another 30 minuttes. (OH and theres 3 of them at the same time)
* get this within the next 2 months, or it goes away..
* Oh and there's a few events popping in..
* remember there's new content coming in a few weeks..

I agree, but the dynamic encounters are permanent. I suspect you meant the Night Market, though.

People are going to say to take your time, but I've tried to late-farm leads on big fights that are swarmed for the first few weeks, and then never again (Protector of Galen WWB, Deadlands WWB), and that usually requires asking favors of guild mates, because most of those can't be soloed by most players. Luckily, those leads usually drop pretty quickly. After one or two fights.

The Dynamic Encounters are still swarmed, so I have no feel for how easy they are to solo. But if it takes 100+ encounters to get the drop, asking guild mates for favors isn't going to cut it.

For the love of Zenithar, PLEASE change the gem of agility drop rate!

zsquared8080 · July 27

fizl101 wrote: »

About 180 or so de (lost count) and finally got the gem

Here I was about to complain that I was over 100 DEs in and hadn't gotten the gem.

I dunno, I've gotten the new recipe, the style pages many times over, tons of red lichen, the skill style fragments... I think I'm good. There's no reason for the drop rate to be this low, so I'm going to hold off until it gets fixed. Or just resign myself to not getting this.

madman65 · July 27

I wonder if it is about the amount of damage you put into the fight? The top 12 gets a chance at getting the gem? If ones that already have it keep running the DE then would the game consider that as a drop?

agelonestar · July 27

allochthons wrote: »

msetten wrote: »

I am now wondering if the fact that the gem of agility doesn't drop for my thief character has anything to do with the fact that the amulet wasn't part of the rewards early in the quest line.

I agree with Silaf, unfortunately. I did the thieves quest straight through, no bugs.
I've been at the Stonefalls encounter with a timer on (doing chores between) for days, 10 hours a day. No gem.
But I've gotten 3 recipes. A friend got the gem on the first or second day, no recipe. The RNG in this game is so messed up.

agelonestar wrote: »

ESO always had horribly inequitable loot drops. I'm convinced there's something fundamentally wrong with their maths, and I know I'm not the only one who believes that.

/Raises hand. Very wrong, deep in the maths. Maybe in the RNG software itself. And there is no doubt that some people have much, much better RNG than others. I know someone who got a rare painting at least every 5th run through vLC. And that's always true for him. He furnishes so many of his friends houses, since he's not into housing.
My stickerbook is full from vLC, and I got 1 painting.

(ETA:) I know there are always outliers in RNG. Which is why I've been asking for weighted RNG for years. But this is beyond outliers.

I have always believed there are “lucky” accounts in the game - and unlucky. I knew someone who deleted a new character if he didnt loot a purple level item in the first 15 mins of playing. He insisted there was a hidden “luck” setting per character, so he’d started again.

Grega · July 27

fizl101 wrote: »

About 180 or so de (lost count) and finally got the gem

Nice! It took me 194 DEs to get the gem

rockDokRock · July 27

Alphawolf01A wrote: »

I have 2 accounts. My main account does not have the gem, while my alt account got it a few days ago. Most of my time is spent on my main account. Both have completed the new thieves quest line.

How does this work? Do you need to get a gem to upgrade the mythic PER CHARACTER? I figured if you created a new one it would be the same strength as the original.

rockDokRock · July 27

Ingenon wrote: »

agelonestar wrote: »

Is there a way to predict / track Dynamic Encounters or are people just hanging around?

I don't have as much game time as I used to, so I don't like the hanging around option! I just wondered if there was a timer or an add-on or a setting I'm missing (like the F5 for Skirmishes in the NM).

No way to predict /track Dynamic Encounters that I have found. I have heard folks say there is a 30-minute timer per encounter instance.

Probably true, I waited well over 20 at one location.

rockDokRock · July 27

MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »

agelonestar wrote: »

ESO always had horribly inequitable loot drops. I'm convinced there's something fundamentally wrong with their maths, and I know I'm not the only one who believes that.

How hard can it be to put in some kind of override so you don't have to do the same content 100 times?

Personally, I have stopped worrying about it. I just won't do content that works like this. Eventually there'll be nothing left to do and I'll be another player, here since the start, gone from the game.

Yes some point there should be a "mercy drop" where the drop rate is 100% to put you out of your misery.

Laughs in "to get the final lead for the kilt I finished the Mazzatun dungeon sticker book". This should have been in a long time ago. That grind was worse I can assure you.

taiyoukei · July 28

rockDokRock wrote: »

How does this work? Do you need to get a gem to upgrade the mythic PER CHARACTER? I figured if you created a new one it would be the same strength as the original.

Upgrades to the Prowler's Talisman apply to all characters per account.

Nemesis7884 · July 28

The only thing this low drop rate does is completely turn me off of any dynamic encounters...as soon as it drops i will never do them again for the rest of my eso career hopefully...