Arunei wrote: »

Adventurer is NOT A CHALLENGE SETTING.

It is the exact same difficulty as the game was before CD was introduced. Nothing about it has changed. It is not part of CD because CD actually changes the difficulty. The base setting is NOT part of CD.

I mean, I would argue that it is one because for it to not be a setting, it'd just be "not having any of the challenge options enabled". But that's just splitting hairs, rewards for adventurer just doesn't really make sense considering it'd be achievable on adventurer or above, just like all the other achievements.

SilverBride wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

Adventurer is NOT A CHALLENGE SETTING.

This says it is.

A completely opt-in system, Challenge Difficulty allows you to select between four unique difficulty options, each increasing the danger while also increasing the rewards!

Adventurer
This is the current and default Challenge Difficulty.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/69917

Whether we like it or not, we are all utilizing Challenge Difficulty.

You could look at it like the distribution of achievements/rewards across Normal Dungeons, Veteran Dungeons, and the Hard Mode challenges in Veteran Dungeons. There's a lot more to achieve on Veteran difficulty, and a few prestigious achievements for clearing the Hard Mode challenges. You can still earn the achievements that only require Normal Dungeon difficulty even on Veteran difficulty.

Having an achievement that specifically requires the easiest difficulty and nothing harder than that makes no sense.

If there were new achievements for Adventurers and a new title—like, say, “The Leisurely Adventurer” or something like that—would you actually use it?

I mean there there would have to be a separate title for each difficulty level, similar to PvP. But most players will probably only use the titles for the higher difficulty levels—something they can at least be a little proud of. Using the lowest-ranking title might not be a special honor, but rather the opposite.

I don't quite understand your aversion to the new difficulty levels.
Is it because there are certain achievements associated with them that you don't think you could earn?
You don't have a problem with other rewards for other achievements—like the Trifecta title or the God Slayer mount—that are beyond your capabilities, do you?
Besides, I'm 100% sure, you could easily get any achievements related to the difficulty levels.

So what is it, then? The fact that there are some players who regularly play on the highest difficulty level?
But there are also players who regularly do vet hm trials and it doesn’t bother you, does it?
It’s all optional. I really don’t get it.

Of course, I respect your position but you seem to have a fundamental issue with the fact that the new feature was introduced, and I'd like to know why.

Gabriel_H wrote: »

OsUfi wrote: »

Just swinging back in on page 7 of this thread to say, if someone wants to finish this pursuit, group up in Alikir, turn on vestige difficulty, hit 3 dolmens, reach 10/12 on pursuit, do 2 more things and finish entire pursuit in 15 minutes.

You're late.

The story of my life...

Ardriel wrote: »

If there were new achievements for Adventurers and a new title—like, say, “The Leisurely Adventurer” or something like that—would you actually use it?

I mean there there would have to be a separate title for each difficulty level, similar to PvP. But most players will probably only use the titles for the higher difficulty levels—something they can at least be a little proud of. Using the lowest-ranking title might not be a special honor, but rather the opposite.

I don't quite understand your aversion to the new difficulty levels.
Is it because there are certain achievements associated with them that you don't think you could earn?
You don't have a problem with other rewards for other achievements—like the Trifecta title or the God Slayer mount—that are beyond your capabilities, do you?
Besides, I'm 100% sure, you could easily get any achievements related to the difficulty levels.

So what is it, then? The fact that there are some players who regularly play on the highest difficulty level?
But there are also players who regularly do vet hm trials and it doesn’t bother you, does it?
It’s all optional. I really don’t get it.

Of course, I respect your position but you seem to have a fundamental issue with the fact that the new feature was introduced, and I'd like to know why.

I have some characters who will never leave the Adventurer setting that would use a title like that, and others that might use the higher settings’ titles. I think the titles for the different settings as rewards was a very good idea.

OsUfi wrote: »

Just swinging back in on page 7 of this thread to say, if someone wants to finish this pursuit, group up in Alikir, turn on vestige difficulty, hit 3 dolmens, reach 10/12 on pursuit, do 2 more things and finish entire pursuit in 15 minutes.

Also just saying OP has spent more time arguing in this thread about the pursuit than it would have taken to do it with zero effort.

Hilariously accurate 😂

Apollosipod wrote: »

OsUfi wrote: »

...OP has spent more time arguing in this thread about the pursuit than it would have taken to do it with zero effort.

Hilariously accurate 😂

Actually it's not. I've spent more time asking posters to stick to the topic of the thread rather than discussing how I post.

So please let's keep to the topic.

Ardriel wrote: »

I don't quite understand your aversion to the new difficulty levels.
Is it because there are certain achievements associated with them that you don't think you could earn?
You don't have a problem with other rewards for other achievements—like the Trifecta title or the God Slayer mount—that are beyond your capabilities, do you?
Besides, I'm 100% sure, you could easily get any achievements related to the difficulty levels.

So what is it, then? The fact that there are some players who regularly play on the highest difficulty level?
But there are also players who regularly do vet hm trials and it doesn’t bother you, does it?
It’s all optional. I really don’t get it.

Of course, I respect your position but you seem to have a fundamental issue with the fact that the new feature was introduced, and I'd like to know why.

This is why I don't want to use difficulty. I played beta and after launch when we had to move through the zones in a linear fashion. These were veteran zones and it wasn't unusual to die to overland trash... repeatedly. But I persevered and finished all of them. Then some of the story bosses literally took me days to defeat. Days doing nothing but fighting that same boss because they had to be defeated before we could move on in the story. I just wanted to enjoy the story and struggling was not enjoyable. I certainly don't want to repeat that experience now.

This is why I won't do the Night Market. After finishing the veteran zones they introduced Craglorn. It was very difficult and players had to group for everything, similar to how the Night Market was being described. I was 2 veteran levels below the current top but had no way to level because it was impossible to find a group not only on the same quest but also on the same step of the quest. I finally just quit and didn't come back until One Tamriel. I don't want to repeat that experience now either.

So yea, this is why Season Zero has been nothing but a huge disappointment to me and I hope something better is coming down the road.

SilverBride wrote: »

I've really enjoyed Golden Pursuits until now. This is the second one based on a new system that I have zero interest in. I did not do the Night Market one and I won't do the difficulty settings.

I know that it's my personal choice to not do these, but I don't want to spend my game time on activities I don't enjoy.

This whole year has been a string of disappointments and I hope they come up with something more appealing because I'm running out of things to do.

I'll have to jump in here to comment using the persona of my EU character: this may well be, but this one is new, poor, underequipped and still managed to collect all the rewards before those high-and-mighty NA slowpaws even finished their morning tea. Thbbbt!

OsUfi wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

So yea, this is why Season Zero has been nothing but a huge disappointment to me and I hope something better is coming down the road.

Forum posters have spoken about what's coming in 2026 with the thieves guild, solo dungeons of Moonhunters and March of Sacrifices, Sheo, and sages vault in other threads that you've been discussing difficulty in.

I don't remember posting in any of those threads. The only one I participated in was about the direction they were taking in Season Zero.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I really hope you give it a try. Neither Night Market or Challenge Difficulty play out like Craglorn did because they have learned a lot since then. CD has 4 different difficulty levels that you can play in mixed company so everyone can easily do what they need to do by themselves or with a group depending on what their own wants/needs instead of having to wait around for people.

The Night Market actually was in some ways overly generous in how it handled grouping for quests because it would give you progress even if you were nowhere near your group. You could die a lot but then they have you 20 seconds of immunity and let you do quest objectives while dead. So once you knew what you were doing it didn't have to be over and over. Builds also helped a lot too in that regard.

We also have the companions when things get too much but we don't want to turn the difficulty down.

Both you and the game have come a long way since then. You should give seasoned a try on the pursuit, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised.

I won't say that I will never try it because I said that about ToT in the past and ended up liking it after all. So sometime down the road I may decide to give it a try. But right now none of the rewards are enough to entice me.

I appreciate the information and the encouragement because I've been feeling very disappointed by this season so far.

Thank you for an understanding reply.