Another Golden Pursuit I have no interest in (Disappointing Season Zero)

SilverBride · June 18

I've really enjoyed Golden Pursuits until now. This is the second one based on a new system that I have zero interest in. I did not do the Night Market one and I won't do the difficulty settings.

I know that it's my personal choice to not do these, but I don't want to spend my game time on activities I don't enjoy.

This whole year has been a string of disappointments and I hope they come up with something more appealing because I'm running out of things to do.

gamergirldk · June 18

with so many people around it will take no time to do this, I did in 1 houre on just master lev.

AScarlato · June 18

Then don't do it. I skipped quite a few GP before seasons when it was activities I didn't want. None of the rewards look to be anything unique or that important either.

OsUfi · June 18

Then that's your choice Silverbride. It can be completed in 20 minutes with minimal effort. Less than an hour on Seasoned which is a mode you'll barely notice any difference on.

Not everything in an MMO is going to cater to your very unique solo playstyle.

SilverBride · June 18

I already said that I am choosing not to do these. But that isn't the point. So far there has been nothing about Season Zero that I have any interest in. I hope there is something more coming that I, and others that feel the same way, can enjoy too.

AScarlato · June 18

SilverBride wrote: »

I already said that I am choosing not to do these. But that isn't the point. So far there has been nothing about Season Zero that I have any interest in. I hope there is something more coming that I, and others that feel the same way, can enjoy too.

Well, I'm sure they know that too. You posted this fairly often, even I know how you feel about it lol.

This is obviously to further advertise/celebrate the new challenge system, which we know from your poll and and other comments you won't be using.

Apollosipod · June 18

Then don't do it? Not everything is going to be custom-tailored to every individual's gaming preference in an MMO.

We don't have to share our every thought via post.

Erickson9610 · June 18

SilverBride wrote: »

I've really enjoyed Golden Pursuits until now. This is the second one based on a new system that I have zero interest in. I did not do the Night Market one and I won't do the difficulty settings.

Does this mean you did that Golden Pursuit about Vengeance, which was based on a new system?

Apollosipod · June 18

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I've really enjoyed Golden Pursuits until now. This is the second one based on a new system that I have zero interest in. I did not do the Night Market one and I won't do the difficulty settings.

Does this mean you did that Golden Pursuit about Vengeance, which was based on a new system?

Probably not. This particular OP has just made arguing against overland difficulty their personal crusade across multiple threads.

tomofhyrule · June 18

Not every Season is going to be for everyone, and that’s okay.

Season one will have the Thieves’ Guild sequel story (solo), the Sheogorath story (solo), the Favors mini-storylines (solo), and eventually the High Seas event (solo or small group). As such, there really isn’t much for group players in that Season, particularly players who prefer difficult group content.

LunaFlora · June 18

Luckily this Golden Pursuits campaign does not have unique collectible rewards

HerowynKerowyn · June 18

I’m genuinely interested in the new challenge system, and the Golden Pursuits are just a bonus for me. I may even start a brand‑new character to compare the experience to my last fresh playthrough, especially with the more challenging overland changes.

Again, just my opinion and I do enjoy challenges (looking at my calendar with 3-4 hard mode trial cores per week).

SilverBride · June 18

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I've really enjoyed Golden Pursuits until now. This is the second one based on a new system that I have zero interest in. I did not do the Night Market one and I won't do the difficulty settings.

Does this mean you did that Golden Pursuit about Vengeance, which was based on a new system?

Actually yes, I did. Because I found it interesting.

SilverBride · June 18

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Not every Season is going to be for everyone, and that’s okay.

Season one will have the Thieves’ Guild sequel story (solo), the Sheogorath story (solo), the Favors mini-storylines (solo), and eventually the High Seas event (solo or small group). As such, there really isn’t much for group players in that Season, particularly players who prefer difficult group content.

Well that gives me some hope!

SilverBride · June 18

Apollosipod wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I've really enjoyed Golden Pursuits until now. This is the second one based on a new system that I have zero interest in. I did not do the Night Market one and I won't do the difficulty settings.

Does this mean you did that Golden Pursuit about Vengeance, which was based on a new system?

Probably not. This particular OP has just made arguing against overland difficulty their personal crusade across multiple threads.

That is incorrect. I did do it.

AScarlato · June 18

At this point I think SilverBride has such presence here, I know more about which Golden Pursuits and activities she is willing to do than I even know about myself lol.

SilverBride · June 18

These are actually the first, and only ones, I have skipped.

CalamityCat · June 18

I can understand a player trying something before they decide if they like it, but refusing to even try things is guaranteed to cause disappointment. I'm not sure ZOS can ever satisfy players if they refuse to go near the new content etc.

Seasoned is just one step up from Adventurer and well within reach of any player. ZOS have made the Pursuit as easy as they can really. Even more so while others are doing the Pursuit and there are crowds waiting to kill bosses etc. It's a great time to do some of the dailies for killing bosses.

SilverBride · June 18

CalamityCat wrote: »

I can understand a player trying something before they decide if they like it, but refusing to even try things is guaranteed to cause disappointment. I'm not sure ZOS can ever satisfy players if they refuse to go near the new content etc.

Many times have I read posts telling players if they don't like something just don't do it. I've been told that more than once in this thread alone. Well that is exactly what I did but now I'm getting conflicting feedback for doing what has been advised to do.

This thread is less about not doing the content than it is about a string of content that I have no interest in. That doesn't leave a good impression about Seasons.

AScarlato · June 18

SilverBride wrote: »

CalamityCat wrote: »

I can understand a player trying something before they decide if they like it, but refusing to even try things is guaranteed to cause disappointment. I'm not sure ZOS can ever satisfy players if they refuse to go near the new content etc.

Many times have I read posts telling players if they don't like something just don't do it. I've been told that more than once in this thread alone. Well that is exactly what I did but now I'm getting conflicting feedback for doing what has been advised to do.

This thread is less about not doing the content than it is about a string of content that I have no interest in. That doesn't leave a good impression about Seasons.

I don't think it's conflicting. I think people are trying to tell you that for a seasoned player (you yourself said you have completed trials), the first difficulty setting is still easy and you can complete this if you wanted fairly easily.

You refuse to engage with the system which is your choice at the end of the day, and that is that.

SeaGtGruff · June 18

I was dubious about the Night Market at first, especially after my initial humiliating experiences in it on day 1, but after that I really got into it and enjoyed completing the district dailies solo, and grouping up to cleari the mobs, brazen, argents, faceted, and skirmishes. I was surprised at how quickly I was able to complete the associated Golden Pursuits. The only things I didn't bother with were the three dungeons and the trial.

I haven't looked at the new Golden Pursuits yet-- haven't even logged into the game today yet-- but I'll give them a shot. Delves seem almost unchanged on Seasoned difficulty, but the one world boss that I tried (Wily Kee'vah) was definitely harder.

SilverBride · June 18

AScarlato wrote: »

I don't think it's conflicting. I think people are trying to tell you that for a seasoned player (you yourself said you have completed trials), the first difficulty setting is still easy and you can complete this if you wanted fairly easily.

You refuse to engage with the system which is your choice at the end of the day, and that is that.

I'm sure I could complete this on Seasoned and most likely on Master without any issue. But that isn't what is stopping me. I have no interest in the difficulty system and don't want to use my play time to engage in it. So I'm not.

Deserrick · June 18

More events would be a nice way to give people things to do. The High Isle and Daedric War double drop events cut down on the grinds there, and explorers events cut down on general grinds. It would be nice if events like those were made more frequent, but without trade bars and limited rewards in order to alleviate the complaints about events creating pressure.

AScarlato · June 18

SilverBride wrote: »

AScarlato wrote: »

I don't think it's conflicting. I think people are trying to tell you that for a seasoned player (you yourself said you have completed trials), the first difficulty setting is still easy and you can complete this if you wanted fairly easily.

You refuse to engage with the system which is your choice at the end of the day, and that is that.

I'm sure I could complete this on Seasoned and most likely on Master without any issue. But that isn't what is stopping me. I have no interest in the difficulty system and don't want to use my play time to engage in it. So I'm not.

I think some may be confused as to the purpose of a thread every time you lack personal interest in something, then? You clearly have access to the rewards, can complete them, but you just refuse to participate which is your right.

But others are happy to and this game is for a large audience of diverse interests.

You have shared your disinterest/aversion to Challenge difficulties through numerous tactics so I guess this is another one. It's just a lot of regular negativity towards something that is here to stay and feedback already provided more than once.

Taggund · June 18

For 10k Tel var I'll do this, but should be easy just tagging along with those running on normal difficulty.

CalamityCat · June 18

SilverBride wrote: »

Many times have I read posts telling players if they don't like something just don't do it. I've been told that more than once in this thread alone. Well that is exactly what I did but now I'm getting conflicting feedback for doing what has been advised to do.

This thread is less about not doing the content than it is about a string of content that I have no interest in. That doesn't leave a good impression about Seasons.

I don't think you're getting conflicting advice, it's more that you aren't trying things out here. So it's the idea of the thing that you dislike, not the activity itself. It's not really fair to say something isn't fun if you haven't even tried it for 10 minutes. I didn't know I'd enjoy Night Market or Challenge Difficulty until I tried them.

SilverBride · June 18

AScarlato wrote: »

I think some may be confused as to the purpose of a thread every time you lack personal interest in something, then? You clearly have access to the rewards, can complete them, but you just refuse to participate which is your right.

But others are happy to and this game is for a large audience of diverse interests.

You have shared your disinterest/aversion to Challenge difficulties through numerous tactics so I guess this is another one. It's just a lot of regular negativity towards something that is here to stay and feedback already provided more than once.

The purpose of this thread is the purpose of many threads, which is feedback. This is the first year of this new Seasons system and the first year that there has been not a single thing that interests me. Not only that but they removed Endeavors which I did enjoy and replaced it with a bloated version called Tomes that is just overwhelming.

I haven't said anything about difficulty other than I choose not to participate in the Golden Pursuit because I'm not interested in it.

I've played this game a long time, starting in beta and completed all the Veteran zones before they were changed. I did leave for a couple of years but have been back several years now. I think with my experience they may find my feedback relevant.

SilverBride · June 18

CalamityCat wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Many times have I read posts telling players if they don't like something just don't do it. I've been told that more than once in this thread alone. Well that is exactly what I did but now I'm getting conflicting feedback for doing what has been advised to do.

This thread is less about not doing the content than it is about a string of content that I have no interest in. That doesn't leave a good impression about Seasons.

I don't think you're getting conflicting advice, it's more that you aren't trying things out here. So it's the idea of the thing that you dislike, not the activity itself. It's not really fair to say something isn't fun if you haven't even tried it for 10 minutes. I didn't know I'd enjoy Night Market or Challenge Difficulty until I tried them.

You make a good point, but I do have experience with difficulty in ESO. The Veteran zones we had before One Tamriel were brutal and overland trash mobs often got the best of me. But I persevered and finished all of them. But then Craglorn was even worse and that is what caused me to leave for a couple of years. So I do know overland difficulty and I didn't enjoy a thing about it.

Gabriel_H · June 18

My issue is these keep starting AFTER I've already done them.

AScarlato · June 18

I just personally can't imagine in any MMO with a large number of offerings to create threads every time I personally don't want to do something.

Sure, it's feedback but I suppose the response from the greater community would be "thanks for sharing?" I'm not sure what you want them to do with the feedback that you aren't interested in this GP.

Anyway, "thanks for sharing?"

SkaiFaith · June 18

SilverBride wrote: »

CalamityCat wrote: »

I can understand a player trying something before they decide if they like it, but refusing to even try things is guaranteed to cause disappointment. I'm not sure ZOS can ever satisfy players if they refuse to go near the new content etc.

Many times have I read posts telling players if they don't like something just don't do it. I've been told that more than once in this thread alone. Well that is exactly what I did but now I'm getting conflicting feedback for doing what has been advised to do.

This thread is less about not doing the content than it is about a string of content that I have no interest in. That doesn't leave a good impression about Seasons.

I understand that. But still...

While I am very much happy for this Golden Pursuit and Challenge Difficulty because I am seeing way more players around, I get what you are saying and I propose a different comparison to "Chapters era":

We used to have 2 updates fully dedicated to DLC Group Dungeons back then. 3 months each, entirely dedicated to just that.
As someone who never wanted to join a group for a dungeon I basically "lost" 6 months every year, when I would have to find something else to do in game.

The Seasons approach is delivering content constantly, and giving us many different GPs. If one thing is not of my interest it is highly likely that in a few weeks something of my likings will come.

I understand it has not been like this for you yet, but that's in fact for you and we are only 3 months in this new system.
We, many, endured 12 years of hardships. I'm not dismissing your opinion, which you already made known, I just think you could give Zos more time, and if the game really doesn't give you anything of your likings to continue playing maybe take a break and return couple weeks later to see if there's something new you enjoy