U50 Bug Reports for Class Mastery

ZOS_Kevin · April 13

Please report any issues you run into while testing the Class Mastery in this thread. In general, we prefer you to use /bug in-game but if you’d rather submit a report here, please give us as much information as possible, including screenshots and/or video if applicable. Thank you!

Aces-High-82 · April 16

Sorcerer.
The Conservation of Energy passive does not trigger from the Streak morph of Bolt Escape. The Ball of Lightning morph is fine.

Dracane · April 16

It may be difficult to know what is bug or intentional.

Sorcerer

Sphere of Influence:
- Does not trigger when allies or self pick up Daedric Refuge mines. (The only method Sorcerer even has to give it to allies)
- Currently unreliable with AoE wards like Warding Burst. Sometimes these do not seem to apply to players when they have a pet (like Warden's bear) Generally this often does not proc Sphere of Influence on anyone; and other times just fine.
- Does not trigger on frost staff heavy attack wards, hardening enchantments or the Reinforced CP talent. (Maybe intended?)
- This ward appears to be cast below the ward that produced rather than on top of it, meaning it is 2nd to take damage. With it lasting 4 seconds instead of 6 like other wards, this seems counter productive.
- It's intended that only one instance of this can be active at a time?

Conservation of Energy

Does not activate Blood Magic when using Streak, while Ball of Lightning does.
It has a cooldown not stated in the tooltip. Feels like ~0.5 seconds. (Using Overload light attack and a skill thereafter will not have the skill trigger Blood Magic)

Calculated Defense

It has a cooldown not stated in the tooltip and cannot be refreshed whilst active. Feels like ~0.8s.

xylena · April 17

Pyrebrand shouldn't interact with Wildfire Embers. Procs aren't supposed to proc procs.

Dracane · May 13

Sphere of Influence does not apply via most damage shields applied from set effects.
Notably Prayer's Shawl, which applies to self and allies but does not produce the Sphere of Influence ward.

ZhuJiuyin · May 13

Dracane wrote: »

Sphere of Influence does not apply via most damage shields applied from set effects.
Notably Prayer's Shawl, which applies to self and allies but does not produce the Sphere of Influence ward.

I honestly think ZOS can just stop working on this skill. It has far too many bugs, and I don't think Sorc needs so many shield-related class masteries. Let's just leave the skill as it is until Sorc is reworked and it's changed to something else.

Dracane · May 13

ZhuJiuyin wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Sphere of Influence does not apply via most damage shields applied from set effects.
Notably Prayer's Shawl, which applies to self and allies but does not produce the Sphere of Influence ward.

I honestly think ZOS can just stop working on this skill. It has far too many bugs, and I don't think Sorc needs so many shield-related class masteries. Let's just leave the skill as it is until Sorc is reworked and it's changed to something else.

I actually think it's the most interesting of the Sorc masteries. It's funny though when you realize only 3 abilities in the entire game can even produce it: Warding Burst (when scribed to become a shield,) Ulfsild's Contingency (when scribed,) and now Daedric Refuge. So I suppose you are not wrong when it's a mastery that only does its job with 3 abilities.

Dracane · May 13

This patchnote suggested that more than just Daedric Refuge was enabled to produce this, but I was not able to find any other damage shield that activates Sphere of Influence. Particularly of course for allies. That's the main attraction here; sheltering allies.

YandereGirlfriend · May 13

Dracane wrote: »

ZhuJiuyin wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Sphere of Influence does not apply via most damage shields applied from set effects.
Notably Prayer's Shawl, which applies to self and allies but does not produce the Sphere of Influence ward.

I honestly think ZOS can just stop working on this skill. It has far too many bugs, and I don't think Sorc needs so many shield-related class masteries. Let's just leave the skill as it is until Sorc is reworked and it's changed to something else.

I actually think it's the most interesting of the Sorc masteries. It's funny though when you realize only 3 abilities in the entire game can even produce it: Warding Burst (when scribed to become a shield,) Ulfsild's Contingency (when scribed,) and now Daedric Refuge. So I suppose you are not wrong when it's a mastery that only does its job with 3 abilities.

How about Barrier? I would imagine that should work.

Dracane · May 13

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

ZhuJiuyin wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Sphere of Influence does not apply via most damage shields applied from set effects.
Notably Prayer's Shawl, which applies to self and allies but does not produce the Sphere of Influence ward.

I honestly think ZOS can just stop working on this skill. It has far too many bugs, and I don't think Sorc needs so many shield-related class masteries. Let's just leave the skill as it is until Sorc is reworked and it's changed to something else.

I actually think it's the most interesting of the Sorc masteries. It's funny though when you realize only 3 abilities in the entire game can even produce it: Warding Burst (when scribed to become a shield,) Ulfsild's Contingency (when scribed,) and now Daedric Refuge. So I suppose you are not wrong when it's a mastery that only does its job with 3 abilities.

How about Barrier? I would imagine that should work.

Right, Barrier works.

acanca · May 27

Interaction between Sphere of Influence and Psijic Skill Line Concentrated Barrier

This interaction is extremely degenerate and should be fixed asap. I'm not going to explain how im doing this but having a shield that repeats itself every few miliseconds like this can never be ok. Sphere of influence should ever only work on something you spend a gcd activating.This can not go to live as is. Video will be taken down in 2 days due to sites rules, hope its enough time for a dev to take notice.

https://streamable.com/og3roo

Aces-High-82 · May 27

acanca wrote: »

Interaction between Sphere of Influence and Psijic Skill Line Concentrated Barrier

This interaction is extremely degenerate and should be fixed asap. I'm not going to explain how im doing this but having a shield that repeats itself every few miliseconds like this can never be ok. Sphere of influence should ever only work on something you spend a gcd activating.This can not go to live as is. Video will be taken down in 2 days due to sites rules, hope its enough time for a dev to take notice.

https://streamable.com/og3roo

Its capped at 0.33 secs but that does not make it less broken.

Dracane · May 27

Sphere of Influence does not activate on: Reinforced CP, Ice Staff heavy attacks, Damage shield glyphs, Shields from sets, From The Brink CP - but yet it does activate on the passive Psijic barrier? Which of all these options I just named is the last "Cast-it-on-yourself" in nature. Not to mention it can be exploited as mentioned in previous comments.

Kickimanjaro · May 27

Dracane wrote: »

Sphere of Influence does not activate on: Reinforced CP, Ice Staff heavy attacks, Damage shield glyphs, Shields from sets, From The Brink CP - but yet it does activate on the passive Psijic barrier? Which of all these options I just named is the last "Cast-it-on-yourself" in nature. Not to mention it can be exploited as mentioned in previous comments.

This passive would be really interesting to me if it worked with sets and all the other stuff you mention, but I worry that this would make it overpowered. Though perhaps it already is based on the above-mentioned interaction with the Psijic Concentrated Barrier passive which I'm assuming is being activated by binding block to scroll wheel or something silly for constant re-application with little-to-no downside. That at least appears to be acting as described by the game, whereas it not applying to all those other areas (item sets, CP, ice staff passive) seems like a bug.

But hey, it's probably too late for them to change this now so maybe it'll add some class identity back to the Sorcs making them little balls of annoying shielded death on the battlefield again and that could be neat, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Dracane · May 27

Kickimanjaro wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Sphere of Influence does not activate on: Reinforced CP, Ice Staff heavy attacks, Damage shield glyphs, Shields from sets, From The Brink CP - but yet it does activate on the passive Psijic barrier? Which of all these options I just named is the last "Cast-it-on-yourself" in nature. Not to mention it can be exploited as mentioned in previous comments.

This passive would be really interesting to me if it worked with sets and all the other stuff you mention, but I worry that this would make it overpowered. Though perhaps it already is based on the above-mentioned interaction with the Psijic Concentrated Barrier passive which I'm assuming is being activated by binding block to scroll wheel or something silly for constant re-application with little-to-no downside. That at least appears to be acting as described by the game, whereas it not applying to all those other areas (item sets, CP, ice staff passive) seems like a bug.

But hey, it's probably too late for them to change this now so maybe it'll add some class identity back to the Sorcs making them little balls of annoying shielded death on the battlefield again and that could be neat, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I would argue that Concentrated Barrier activating Sphere of Influence is a bug, and thus an exploit. So many things similar to it in nature do not activate the passive. It is more likely that this is the unintended interaction.

Pinktraining · May 28

The Terrible class has terrible skills.

I don't mean to provoke, but how many bugs related to Sorc have appeared in this PTS cycle?

Font of Power has a bug that incorrectly transfers the buff to teammates.
Conservation of Energy has a bug that prevents it from triggering correctly.
Sphere of Influence has a bug that prevents it from interacting correctly with Sorc's skills, a bug that prevents it from triggering shields from specific sources correctly, a bug that incorrectly triggers shields from specific sources, and a bug that only affects one target.

More than half of the five mastery classes have bugs, making Sorc either too strong or too weak. Considering Sorc's ridiculous、joke situation in this PTS cycle, I'd even be willing to let Sorc refresh before Nightblade (of course, this is also for the sake of others; a class that is clearly full of bugs shouldn't exist for too long and should be fixed as soon as possible).

acanca · May 28

Its been like 2 months so i might be remembering it wrong but the first thing i did when they revealed the class mastery drafts was go check how similarly worded sets functioned for sphere of influence and that one dodge passive on nb on live.

And so far they function pretty much in line with how those function. It shouldnt have been a surprise that frost staff ha etc doesnt proc it since it also doesnt proc those things so its pretty much in line. What im trying to say is, most of what you guys say are bugs are actually how the mastery is supposed to work, pretty in line with similarly worded stuff.

Cast basically means casting a skill, no proccing it from getting a shield from other sources, except for psijic thingy which is kinda clearly a bug

dark_hunterxmg · May 28

Kickimanjaro wrote: »

But hey, it's probably too late for them to change this now so maybe it'll add some class identity back to the Sorcs making them little balls of annoying shielded death on the battlefield again and that could be neat, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Don't let them convince you that it can't be changed at any time. We know very well that they can do hot fixes, or change things in smaller updates. I've seen them fix something while I was actively in a menu screen.