Shattered Path Signet Users Beware! - Frost Vault Final boss Progression

Sallymen · May 12

Just a PSA, not sure if this is by design or an oversight but the minor timidity debuff when wearing the Shattered Path signet will prevent you from using your ultimate in rat form. Discharge Ultimate needs 500 ultimate to activate and the debuff drains even when you are in rat form, meaning you can get soft block from even completing rat phase and moving on to execute. I am not sure if this has been talked about or if anyone even noticed but I am posting it here now to spread awareness.

So TLDR: Do not use Shattered Path Signet on final boss of Frost Vault

Jolipinator · May 12

Aww rats.

Personofsecrets · May 12

This is why content completion shouldnt rely on dumb mini games. a problem like this will always come up over time.

Gabriel_H · May 12

Personofsecrets wrote: »

This is why content completion shouldnt rely on dumb mini games. a problem like this will always come up over time.

Not really. It's like having Slippery slotted in Scalecaller.

Hapexamendios · May 13

Reminds me of the Oakensoul and the bar switch mechanic in Cloudrest. Not the first time nor will it be the last.

MasterSpatula · May 13

Jolipinator wrote: »

Aww rats.

ESO_player123 · May 13

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

This is why content completion shouldnt rely on dumb mini games. a problem like this will always come up over time.

Not really. It's like having Slippery slotted in Scalecaller.

@Gabriel_H What will happen if I slot Slippery in Scelcaller?

Necrotech_Master · May 13

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

This is why content completion shouldnt rely on dumb mini games. a problem like this will always come up over time.

Not really. It's like having Slippery slotted in Scalecaller.

Gabriel_H What will happen if I slot Slippery in Scelcaller?

in the ogre boss, if you cc break when you get turned into an ice pillar to survive the ice mechanic, you break out of the ice and will end up dying to the mechanic

Luneca · May 13

Looks like the shattered paths have been forced into one for this boss fight.

Gabriel_H · May 13

ESO_player123 wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

This is why content completion shouldnt rely on dumb mini games. a problem like this will always come up over time.

Not really. It's like having Slippery slotted in Scalecaller.

@Gabriel_H What will happen if I slot Slippery in Scelcaller?

As @Necrotech_Master said, plus the last boss in HM.

Vulkunne · May 13

Thanks for sharing but I've had this problem before. I'm not sure what I was using specifically but there's been several times my ult wouldn't work in 'rat' form and the group had to finish that part. So, there's other things causing this as well.

Kickimanjaro · May 13

Vulkunne wrote: »

Thanks for sharing but I've had this problem before. I'm not sure what I was using specifically but there's been several times my ult wouldn't work in 'rat' form and the group had to finish that part. So, there's other things causing this as well.

There are other sources of Minor Timidity, like being on your backbar while wearing Monomyth, so perhaps it could have been that? It seems they could mitigate this slightly by making the ult for this mechanic cost like 475 or 400 instead.

Gabriel_H · May 13

Kickimanjaro wrote: »

Vulkunne wrote: »

Thanks for sharing but I've had this problem before. I'm not sure what I was using specifically but there's been several times my ult wouldn't work in 'rat' form and the group had to finish that part. So, there's other things causing this as well.

There are other sources of Minor Timidity, like being on your backbar while wearing Monomyth, so perhaps it could have been that? It seems they could mitigate this slightly by making the ult for this mechanic cost like 475 or 400 instead.

Or just awareness and building for the content

Yudo · May 14

Just an observation: unlike mono, which respects in combat correctly, this signet applies minor Timidity always, though it only ticks in combat somehow. So is not exactly behaving as I expected from the description. Not sure if that has any impact on the rat situation though.

NikoSquared · May 14

Yudo wrote: »

Just an observation: unlike mono, which respects in combat correctly, this signet applies minor Timidity always, though it only ticks in combat somehow. So is not exactly behaving as I expected from the description. Not sure if that has any impact on the rat situation though.

Players are still in combat for the duration of the Frostvault Rat Race, likely to prevent the boss from resetting

Soarora · May 14

To be fair, one person not having their ult isn’t the end of the world. It would work fine on HM, it’s just the strategy on non-hm is for everyone to take care of one pylon. You wouldn’t get soft locked out of the final boss unless you’re soloing it.

It’d be annoying to people to have to do your mouse for you probably but it’s not like “omg I forgot to take off the ring we need to wipe”.