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Wizard's Addon Subclass Restriction?

coreymj78
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Has Wizard's build swap addon not been updated for subclassing? When I try to swap to a build that includes a subclassed skill line that differs from my current subclass skill line (using Herald, but want to swap to a build that uses Gravelord skill line) and it just yells at me in chat, "This skill has not been unlocked, this skill has not been unlocked" simply because I haven't selected it in the subclass panel.

Tell me this is only the case for me and not that the addon itself hasn't been updated for subclassing? If not, what can I do to fix it? Anyone have this problem?

Thanks.
  • lillybit
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    Wizards isn’t the armory, it can't swap morphs and skill lines, they need a respec
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  • tomofhyrule
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    We can respec in the UI now, but that addon is still only slotting skills you have purchased. I don’t know if it’s been updated to work with free respecs, but even then it would need to be programmed to buy and morph all of the skills before slotting them.
  • coreymj78
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    Well it sounds like we are almost there. If the UI can do it free, then the code exists and could be simply modified to work in a different UI panel: Wizard's. LOL Thanks for confirming what I thought.

    It's crazy now, we have SO many layers of redundant gear systems that could be condensed into one: just ONE build manager that swaps EVERYTHING and nothing else. We don't need a system for free menu respecs (that only respec skills) + shrine respecs, scroll respecs, etc. + another system that swaps skills and gear, etc. + another system (via addon) that let's you swap builds without swapping subclassing, etc. like bro, it's nuts.

    can someone either code Wizard's to do everything (including some visual things + subclass lines) OR can ZOS stop being lazy and clean this mess up?

    Thanks for letting me rant.
  • heimdall14_9
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    coreymj78 wrote: »
    Well it sounds like we are almost there. If the UI can do it free, then the code exists and could be simply modified to work in a different UI panel: Wizard's. LOL Thanks for confirming what I thought.

    It's crazy now, we have SO many layers of redundant gear systems that could be condensed into one: just ONE build manager that swaps EVERYTHING and nothing else. We don't need a system for free menu respecs (that only respec skills) + shrine respecs, scroll respecs, etc. + another system that swaps skills and gear, etc. + another system (via addon) that let's you swap builds without swapping subclassing, etc. like bro, it's nuts.

    can someone either code Wizard's to do everything (including some visual things + subclass lines) OR can ZOS stop being lazy and clean this mess up?

    Thanks for letting me rant.

    in order for wizards to do what your asking it will have to break even more rules then it already does , but once its able to i hope its the straw that breaks the camels back and zos will remove these type of add-ons as they give unfair advantages that eso system limit for reasons
    Nordic-Knights (PSN)/Sir-A-Crowley (PSN)/Sir_Crowley ( PC) 16 account holder !!!!!!!!!!!!! 19x emperor , 99% full game all vet HM SR ND ( U46) release day ESO VET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ww add-on takes the integrity of the GAME away
  • Treeshka
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    coreymj78 wrote: »
    Well it sounds like we are almost there. If the UI can do it free, then the code exists and could be simply modified to work in a different UI panel: Wizard's. LOL Thanks for confirming what I thought.

    It's crazy now, we have SO many layers of redundant gear systems that could be condensed into one: just ONE build manager that swaps EVERYTHING and nothing else. We don't need a system for free menu respecs (that only respec skills) + shrine respecs, scroll respecs, etc. + another system that swaps skills and gear, etc. + another system (via addon) that let's you swap builds without swapping subclassing, etc. like bro, it's nuts.

    can someone either code Wizard's to do everything (including some visual things + subclass lines) OR can ZOS stop being lazy and clean this mess up?

    Thanks for letting me rant.

    They developed an addon like that, that auto respecs you to morphs and skill lines. Since they removed the ability to do so in leaderboard content during the test server cycle, they would not develop it i think. Because it is where it matters, and game simply does not allow it.
  • CatalinaWineMixer2
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    The add ons are already out of control. This needs to be sorted out or even eliminated (the game was better without them) before Cross platform or you will see a massive exodus of epic proportions. Add ons should not be permitted in any leaderboard content whatsoever either.
  • imPDA
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    Why restrict addons which can do the same thing what you already can do manually, but faster? Is it a big deal? I can swap gear by opening inventory and pressing Equip 5 times (to change one set), 6 seconds at most, with addon it is 1-2 seconds. What's the point of removing it then? It will just make people 5-10 seconds slower and less satisfied.
    Your Friendly Neighborhood PvP Enjoyer (prior to U48)
  • Jestir
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    You will want the addon "Caro's skill point saver" then

    It uses the in-game free respec (which means it can't be used in leaderboard content) to swap attributes, subclassing and skill points

    It doesn't completely replace the armory as Caros can't change your mundus or curse but it has its uses to free up armory slots for builds that dont need to change those. It obviously doesn't even touch wizards ability to swap gear in content as well.
  • coreymj78
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    Thanks!
  • coreymj78
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    Not sure I understand why it would break any rules? so if you want, just limit the ability so swap builds mid combat obviously, but between fights? why not. i asumme that is why ZOS gave us the armory merchant in the first place. All i was literally saying was i wish the armory had a simple in menu interface instead of a dumb NPC. and it also needs to incorporate all aspects, even visual appearance (motifs, etc)
  • heimdall14_9
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    imPDA wrote: »
    Why restrict addons which can do the same thing what you already can do manually, but faster? Is it a big deal? I can swap gear by opening inventory and pressing Equip 5 times (to change one set), 6 seconds at most, with addon it is 1-2 seconds. What's the point of removing it then? It will just make people 5-10 seconds slower and less satisfied.

    the add-on takes 2500ms to switch out full gear, weapons, jewelry, skills and cp automatically , its totally impossible to get anywhere close to its time manually and in SPEED RUNS that time matters 100% so without the add-on you are 100% at a disadvantage.. something no add-on should make the players have/be in as it makes the add-on 100% MANDATORY
    Edited by heimdall14_9 on May 9, 2026 3:16AM
    Nordic-Knights (PSN)/Sir-A-Crowley (PSN)/Sir_Crowley ( PC) 16 account holder !!!!!!!!!!!!! 19x emperor , 99% full game all vet HM SR ND ( U46) release day ESO VET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ww add-on takes the integrity of the GAME away
  • imPDA
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    the add-on takes 2500ms to switch out full gear, weapons, jewelry, skills and cp automatically , its totally impossible to get anywhere close to its time manually and in SPEED RUNS that time matters 100% so without the add-on you are 100% at a disadvantage.. something no add-on should make the players have/be in as it makes the add-on 100% MANDATORY

    Install the addon lol, and you will be on par. They are not restricted, not hidden from you. It is even accessible now on the console.

    The fact you decided to eat with chopsticks doesn't mean all others should use them too automatically to be on par with you. Grow up.
    Your Friendly Neighborhood PvP Enjoyer (prior to U48)
  • Arunei
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    imPDA wrote: »
    Why restrict addons which can do the same thing what you already can do manually, but faster? Is it a big deal? I can swap gear by opening inventory and pressing Equip 5 times (to change one set), 6 seconds at most, with addon it is 1-2 seconds. What's the point of removing it then? It will just make people 5-10 seconds slower and less satisfied.

    the add-on takes 2500ms to switch out full gear, weapons, jewelry, skills and cp automatically , its totally impossible to get anywhere close to its time manually and in SPEED RUNS that time matters 100% so without the add-on you are 100% at a disadvantage.. something no add-on should make the players have/be in as it makes the add-on 100% MANDATORY
    You already had a huge thread ranting about addons bad and ZOS still hasn't changed anything about them. Your opinion on things clearly doesn't align with what ZOS thinks is fine and they've nuked problematic addons in the past, so it's not like they're just ignoring a potential problem.
    The add ons are already out of control. This needs to be sorted out or even eliminated (the game was better without them) before Cross platform or you will see a massive exodus of epic proportions. Add ons should not be permitted in any leaderboard content whatsoever either.
    If you don't like them don't use them, simple as that. There's no reason to remove something other people like and makes the game easier or more convenient just because some people have a hatred of them. ZOS already blocks things in Leaderboards when people bring up the concern so that's a moot point.

    Let me guess, you don't like people using Lazy Writ to do a bunch of crafting dailies faster than manually clicking a bunch of buttons? Plenty of addons do things that have nothing to do with saving time not pushing buttons.

    Item Set Browser lists all the Sets in the game, where to get them, sorts them by Weight or where you get them, and so on.

    Furniture Catalogue tracks all the Furniture in the game and tells you where to get it, what materials it takes if it's craftable, tracks what Blueprints you know on your characters, and so on.

    Show Leads tracks all the Leads in the game and tells you where to find them, tracks which ones you can Scry or Excavate, tracks what you've already found, and things like that.

    Lost Treasure marks where Treasure Maps and Surveys are on the map so you don't have to constantly use an outside source like Google to find them.

    Skyshards and Lorebooks do the same thing for those particular things.

    PChat lets you resize the chat box for more than vanilla ESO does, you can stretch it to cover the whole screen if you wanted. It has an option to save chat for up to 48 hours after you log out/crash, it lets you store keywords to be highlighted in chat and even to make a noise when that word is detected, it lets you copy whole chats from specific channels, and so on.

    No, Thank You! blocks so many more notifications and other things than the base game does, plus it has options for not spinning your character and zooming in when you open a menu or the "pause" menu.

    That's just a few off the top of my head that I use (except Skyshards/Lorebooks) that don't affect other players in the slightest but make the game more convenient and enjoyable for me. I can spend more time actually in game doing things without having to consult outside sources to find things, and I can access stuff I know from a menu I can bring up on a whim instead of needing to either dig through ESO's windows to find it or go to a crafting station to find what I know.
    Edited by Arunei on May 9, 2026 4:18PM
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  • lillybit
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    Arunei wrote: »
    imPDA wrote: »
    Why restrict addons which can do the same thing what you already can do manually, but faster? Is it a big deal? I can swap gear by opening inventory and pressing Equip 5 times (to change one set), 6 seconds at most, with addon it is 1-2 seconds. What's the point of removing it then? It will just make people 5-10 seconds slower and less satisfied.

    the add-on takes 2500ms to switch out full gear, weapons, jewelry, skills and cp automatically , its totally impossible to get anywhere close to its time manually and in SPEED RUNS that time matters 100% so without the add-on you are 100% at a disadvantage.. something no add-on should make the players have/be in as it makes the add-on 100% MANDATORY
    No, Thank You! has options for not spinning your character and zooming in when you open a menu or the "pause" menu

    Oh wow, really? I get such bad motion sickness from that spin/zoom thing. I really hope console gets something like it
    PS4 EU
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