Wizards isn’t the armory, it can't swap morphs and skill lines, they need a respec

Well it sounds like we are almost there. If the UI can do it free, then the code exists and could be simply modified to work in a different UI panel: Wizard's. LOL Thanks for confirming what I thought.

It's crazy now, we have SO many layers of redundant gear systems that could be condensed into one: just ONE build manager that swaps EVERYTHING and nothing else. We don't need a system for free menu respecs (that only respec skills) + shrine respecs, scroll respecs, etc. + another system that swaps skills and gear, etc. + another system (via addon) that let's you swap builds without swapping subclassing, etc. like bro, it's nuts.

can someone either code Wizard's to do everything (including some visual things + subclass lines) OR can ZOS stop being lazy and clean this mess up?

Thanks for letting me rant.

coreymj78 wrote: »

Well it sounds like we are almost there. If the UI can do it free, then the code exists and could be simply modified to work in a different UI panel: Wizard's. LOL Thanks for confirming what I thought.

It's crazy now, we have SO many layers of redundant gear systems that could be condensed into one: just ONE build manager that swaps EVERYTHING and nothing else. We don't need a system for free menu respecs (that only respec skills) + shrine respecs, scroll respecs, etc. + another system that swaps skills and gear, etc. + another system (via addon) that let's you swap builds without swapping subclassing, etc. like bro, it's nuts.

can someone either code Wizard's to do everything (including some visual things + subclass lines) OR can ZOS stop being lazy and clean this mess up?

Thanks for letting me rant.

They developed an addon like that, that auto respecs you to morphs and skill lines. Since they removed the ability to do so in leaderboard content during the test server cycle, they would not develop it i think. Because it is where it matters, and game simply does not allow it.

Why restrict addons which can do the same thing what you already can do manually, but faster? Is it a big deal? I can swap gear by opening inventory and pressing Equip 5 times (to change one set), 6 seconds at most, with addon it is 1-2 seconds. What's the point of removing it then? It will just make people 5-10 seconds slower and less satisfied.

Thanks!

imPDA wrote: »

Why restrict addons which can do the same thing what you already can do manually, but faster? Is it a big deal? I can swap gear by opening inventory and pressing Equip 5 times (to change one set), 6 seconds at most, with addon it is 1-2 seconds. What's the point of removing it then? It will just make people 5-10 seconds slower and less satisfied.

the add-on takes 2500ms to switch out full gear, weapons, jewelry, skills and cp automatically , its totally impossible to get anywhere close to its time manually and in SPEED RUNS that time matters 100% so without the add-on you are 100% at a disadvantage.. something no add-on should make the players have/be in as it makes the add-on 100% MANDATORY

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

imPDA wrote: »

Why restrict addons which can do the same thing what you already can do manually, but faster? Is it a big deal? I can swap gear by opening inventory and pressing Equip 5 times (to change one set), 6 seconds at most, with addon it is 1-2 seconds. What's the point of removing it then? It will just make people 5-10 seconds slower and less satisfied.

the add-on takes 2500ms to switch out full gear, weapons, jewelry, skills and cp automatically , its totally impossible to get anywhere close to its time manually and in SPEED RUNS that time matters 100% so without the add-on you are 100% at a disadvantage.. something no add-on should make the players have/be in as it makes the add-on 100% MANDATORY

You already had a huge thread ranting about addons bad and ZOS still hasn't changed anything about them. Your opinion on things clearly doesn't align with what ZOS thinks is fine and they've nuked problematic addons in the past, so it's not like they're just ignoring a potential problem.

CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »

The add ons are already out of control. This needs to be sorted out or even eliminated (the game was better without them) before Cross platform or you will see a massive exodus of epic proportions. Add ons should not be permitted in any leaderboard content whatsoever either.

If you don't like them don't use them, simple as that. There's no reason to remove something other people like and makes the game easier or more convenient just because some people have a hatred of them. ZOS already blocks things in Leaderboards when people bring up the concern so that's a moot point.

Let me guess, you don't like people using Lazy Writ to do a bunch of crafting dailies faster than manually clicking a bunch of buttons? Plenty of addons do things that have nothing to do with saving time not pushing buttons.

Item Set Browser lists all the Sets in the game, where to get them, sorts them by Weight or where you get them, and so on.

Furniture Catalogue tracks all the Furniture in the game and tells you where to get it, what materials it takes if it's craftable, tracks what Blueprints you know on your characters, and so on.

Show Leads tracks all the Leads in the game and tells you where to find them, tracks which ones you can Scry or Excavate, tracks what you've already found, and things like that.

Lost Treasure marks where Treasure Maps and Surveys are on the map so you don't have to constantly use an outside source like Google to find them.

Skyshards and Lorebooks do the same thing for those particular things.

PChat lets you resize the chat box for more than vanilla ESO does, you can stretch it to cover the whole screen if you wanted. It has an option to save chat for up to 48 hours after you log out/crash, it lets you store keywords to be highlighted in chat and even to make a noise when that word is detected, it lets you copy whole chats from specific channels, and so on.

No, Thank You! blocks so many more notifications and other things than the base game does, plus it has options for not spinning your character and zooming in when you open a menu or the "pause" menu.

That's just a few off the top of my head that I use (except Skyshards/Lorebooks) that don't affect other players in the slightest but make the game more convenient and enjoyable for me. I can spend more time actually in game doing things without having to consult outside sources to find things, and I can access stuff I know from a menu I can bring up on a whim instead of needing to either dig through ESO's windows to find it or go to a crafting station to find what I know.

imPDA wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

the add-on takes 2500ms to switch out full gear, weapons, jewelry, skills and cp automatically , its totally impossible to get anywhere close to its time manually and in SPEED RUNS that time matters 100% so without the add-on you are 100% at a disadvantage.. something no add-on should make the players have/be in as it makes the add-on 100% MANDATORY

Install the addon lol, and you will be on par. They are not restricted, not hidden from you. It is even accessible now on the console.

The fact you decided to eat with chopsticks doesn't mean all others should use them too automatically to be on par with you. Grow up.

sorry you need add-ons to play the game for you i myself play games to challange myself so why would i than have a bot run my game for me seems them that cant handle a challange really dont want to play eso just have add-ons do it for them , but hey we all aint made the same .... i just dont like having everything handed to me and like to work for what i get not have bots do it for me

@imPDA @Arunei

and why cant one of you give me something other than insults that disproves that theres a disadvantage??????

Arunei wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

imPDA wrote: »

Why restrict addons which can do the same thing what you already can do manually, but faster? Is it a big deal? I can swap gear by opening inventory and pressing Equip 5 times (to change one set), 6 seconds at most, with addon it is 1-2 seconds. What's the point of removing it then? It will just make people 5-10 seconds slower and less satisfied.

the add-on takes 2500ms to switch out full gear, weapons, jewelry, skills and cp automatically , its totally impossible to get anywhere close to its time manually and in SPEED RUNS that time matters 100% so without the add-on you are 100% at a disadvantage.. something no add-on should make the players have/be in as it makes the add-on 100% MANDATORY

No, Thank You! has options for not spinning your character and zooming in when you open a menu or the "pause" menu

Oh wow, really? I get such bad motion sickness from that spin/zoom thing. I really hope console gets something like it

I don't know who made it, but if you go to the Minion site where you can manually download addons and search for it, you can leave a comment asking if they intend to port the addon to console or maybe even just make a specific addon for blocking the spin.

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

@imPDA @Arunei

and why cant one of you give me something other than insults that disproves that theres a disadvantage??????

My guy if you think pointing out of objective fact is somehow an insult, I don't know what to tell you. Nowhere in my response did I insult you, you DID have a huge thread and it WAS ranting.

Tell me how any of the addons I listed somehow give me an "advantage" over someone who doesn't. Oh no, I can find something a bit faster than someone not using Lost Treasure can! Even though those things are instanced to me only and therefore it isn't like I'm competing with other players for the loot!

Addons like the one mentioned here can't be used in Leaderboard content. You also can't switch Skills or Gear or such while in combat so you're not able to use it in the middle of a fight in BGs or Cyro or something. It's literally just a timesaver, so please, tell us how someone saving a couple of seconds is SUCH a huge and unfair advantage compared to people NOT using them.

wizards wardrobe is 100% able to be used in leaderboards' as its not locked out of trials like the armory is after start of a run , not ALL add-ons gives an advantage, that doesn't make them that do okay ... so again tell me how the add-on that the PO is about doesn't already give a disadvantage and how adding in respec wouldnt make that disadvantage even greater than it already is

and its quite a bit in difference 2500ms to have all actions done V ill be nice and just say 30s to do 60+ actions manually , 6 times within a SPEED RUN is a VERY BIG advantage in SCORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!