Duplicate challenges and re-rolls

AzuraFan · April 14

I wasn't interested in two weekly challenges I received this week: trial and battleground. So I re-rolled both, and ended up with this:

First I re-rolled the trial. Got the boss one. Then I re-rolled the battleground. Got the boss one. If my math is right, there's only a 0.16% chance of that happening, but it's been a while since I've tried calculating something like that, so I could definitely be wrong (1/25 * 1/25 = 0.0016).

Sure, I could have kept them and had an easy week, but I want enough stuff to do, so I prefer unique ones. It took me four re-rolls to get an acceptable set, even though there were only two challenges I didn't like (1 for trial, 1 for battleground, 2 for the duplicate boss ones).

The latest developer update says, "Our goal is to provide additional ways to customize the experience for progressing the Tome, whether you reroll for Challenges that fit your playstyle more or you want to try for duplicate Challenges you can progress simultaneously." Okay, so re-rolling duplicates will continue. It's a feature.

Can we have a setting that disallows duplicates, so that players who want a unique set every week won't have to waste re-rolls and gold on duplicates?

licenturion · April 14

Counterpoint: it can be beneficial too with RNG

I rerolled today and got two sets of 2 duplicates. So I got my challenges done blazing fast.

IMO they should roll out the extra rerolls for gold first.

What I don’t like is that the challenges are way too specific. It’s mind numbing unengaging and unfun to stand with 50 other people before work at 8 o clock local time in the morning at a world boss, press 1 button and put a timer on my watch for 5 minutes and repeat this 5 times at two different bosses while I do other stuff on my phone.

Golden pursuits did it way better with ‘defeat 8 world bosses’ and ‘complete 5 dungeons’. That way I get to do something that is engaging, helps my character/account progression and earn tomes all at once. Since the new system I feel like I am more afk watching something on my phone waiting instead of playing. Others say ‘woaah the world feels alive again’. But is it really alive when it feels like a train station where everyone is standing alone with their headphones on and is constantly checking their clock when the train arrives and drive off.

valenwood_vegan · April 14

The RNG in this game certainly *loves* to get stuck in repeating patterns.

Reminds me of once failing to force a simple lock seven times in a row.

Hopefully as they add more challenges to the tome system we won't have to see the same tasks over and over again as frequently.

AzuraFan · April 14

licenturion wrote: »

Counterpoint: it can be beneficial too with RNG

I rerolled today and got two sets of 2 duplicates. So I got my challenges done blazing fast.

No need for a counterpoint.

I mentioned in my post that I specifically wanted unique challenges, otherwise there won't be enough for me to do this week, i.e. I don't want to do my challenges blazingly fast. If I did, I would have been happy with 3 duplicate challenges.

I also mentioned in my post that it's a feature that some people will use because they want duplicates, i.e. the dev quote.

So I'm asking for a setting. I'm not asking to remove duplicate re-rolls.

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

The RNG in this game certainly *loves* to get stuck in repeating patterns.

Reminds me of once failing to force a simple lock seven times in a row.

Hopefully as they add more challenges to the tome system we won't have to see the same tasks over and over again as frequently.

Yeah, it would have been interesting to see what I would have gotten if I'd re-rolled the other two. Maybe 5 of the same challenge.

noblecron · April 14

I'll take duplicates than the dungeon and trial ones. Folk barely run dungeons and trials anymore unless you're ina guild with friends. The group finder and grouping is useless when you're in queue for 30 minutes plus on a tank. ON A TANK