I’m not convinced that these battle passes are a good fit for ESO.

katanagirl1 · April 12

virtus753 wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I have to say the kill 1000 enemies one really killed any enthusiasm for doing these. I spent 30 minutes in Wrothgar overland and got about 15 kills in the first couple of minutes and then nothing after that. How can people here say that is not more grindy than the old system?

It would give us a better indication of the level of grind if this challenge were not so bugged. It is explicitly intended that kills in sub-zones count too, which seems like it would be very impactful in terms of lessening competition and being able to focus on efficiency if we wish. It would give us greater options to get kills via questing, farming public dungeons, doing group dungeons, or doing the solo arena.

Yes, you could probably do 1000 enemies running through Old Orsinium but it doesn’t count. That’s still a lot compared to what we had to do before, though.

AzuraFan wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

So far it has been much more time for me than the old endeavors and I think I am on page 4 of the tome now. I do a lot of different game activities, but farming world bosses and overland creatures is not it either. If I continue to engage with the game in this manner I will begin to loathe logging in and play some other game where I don’t have a chore list.

Same. I said in another thread that I feel more pressure to log in and do specific tasks now than I did when we just had endeavors and golden pursuits. It's even had me considering how much I want to engage with the tomes at all, as in maybe I should just put them on ignore, and any tome points I earn will come naturally. If that means I can't buy a lot of the shinies, so be it.

It's the unlocking of the pages that kills it for me. Stuff on later pages doesn't just cost 300 points or whatever. It actually costs 300+the thousands of points you need to unlock the page. If all the pages were unlocked from the start, I wouldn't feel like I have to be on that hamster wheel, running as fast as I can. As it is, I've already decided to reduce my time in-game to what it was pre-tomes, and again, if that means no shinies, fine, but it certainly leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm also reconsidering buying the premium tomes - no point if I can't get the later pages unlocked unless I'm willing to increase my play time at the expense of other things I have to do or enjoy doing. I'm not willing to do that.

I agree about the unlocking of pages. There are maybe two things I’d like to get in the whole tome that are less than 1000 whatever units we are using now but a much larger amount to grind to get there. Seems there are plenty of other players that are okay with excessively grindy repetitive tasks that have nothing to do with actual gameplay and think this is a better deal.

EDIT: typo

Umbracat449 · April 12

AzuraFan wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

So far it has been much more time for me than the old endeavors and I think I am on page 4 of the tome now. I do a lot of different game activities, but farming world bosses and overland creatures is not it either. If I continue to engage with the game in this manner I will begin to loathe logging in and play some other game where I don’t have a chore list.

Same. I said in another thread that I feel more pressure to log in and do specific tasks now than I did when we just had endeavors and golden pursuits. It's even had me considering how much I want to engage with the tomes at all, as in maybe I should just put them on ignore, and any tome points I earn will come naturally. If that means I can't buy a lot of the shinies, so be it.

It's the unlocking of the pages that kills it for me. Stuff on later pages doesn't just cost 300 points or whatever. It actually costs 300+the thousands of points you need to unlock the page. If all the pages were unlocked from the start, I wouldn't feel like I have to be on that hamster wheel, running as fast as I can. As it is, I've already decided to reduce my time in-game to what it was pre-tomes, and again, if that means no shinies, fine, but it certainly leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm also reconsidering buying the premium tomes - no point if I can't get the later pages unlocked unless I'm willing to increase my play time at the expense of other things I have to do or enjoy doing. I'm not willing to do that.

I appreciate this post, the disquiet about the new system is what I feel too, and it's something about having to unlock pages.

I really don't like the system behind the idea, even though I'm happy enough with the idea. I really don't mind the idea of it. And I never minded endeavors or saving up seals for things.

There's been things for sale for cash for years, there's been endeavors for years, this is just a new variation on this, but something about the way it's been done is really disquieting.

It's made me have to decide how I want to keep playing, because it can't become just chasing challenges- I'm finding them time-consuming and distracting.

To be honest I'm not sure I'll last the season doing them- it's a lot of weeks.

LadyLethalla · April 12

I've personally found these challenges a bit too tedious to bother with. It might depend on what future rewards are as to if I'm going to bother to complete any. I doubt I'll do any more of the current ones since I don't really care if I miss out on any of the rewards I haven't yet unlocked.

ADarklore · April 12

Much like any other game with a battle pass, I rarely pay attention to the tasks and just play the game. If I check something off, great, if not... oh well. So far I've been checking off as I play, and so far I don't have a problem with it. Thankfully I can re-roll tasks to find ones that fit how I play- so that makes it easier to check things off the weekly list.