I wondered what happened to DC, they are 1 bar at 10:30 pm

A player got a scroll and walked slowly with it?
So other players left the alliance due to that?
Did I get it right?!

The funny thing was all the toxic DC who complained about a small group of players switching to EP in Feb, kind of poetic justice that DC lose a bunch more now.

However that being said, there is a huge population issue with Cyrodiil in general and I hope that ZOS does look at things and try to improve them. Max Population lowered again and faction imbalance getting to EU levels on NA is a really bad sign.

Hammer and scrolls attract trolls, just always try to get them first or there's nothing you can do.

I clearly think it should be added to the TOS that if players act unsporting in pvp then they should get banned.

I thought people were leaving/trolling because Bobbys group decided to play DC again

Theignson wrote: »

I wondered what happened to DC, they are 1 bar at 10:30 pm

Probably in one of the Vengeance threads trying to convince us that Gray Host isn't dead.

Too bad ZOS dropped the ball with Vengeance. Another "test" soon that nobody will care about.

As one of those players who switched this campaign, it wasn't really because of that one player.

PC NA DC has a culture problem of players who enable that sort of thing and dont want to work with the faction, etc. It wasn't that way when I went dc four years ago. Sure they dont group which newcomers complain about a lot. Its the solo faction, but when it came time to fight, even when mercilessly being gated, dc was in it ready to go. We used to take a tower near glade and just hold it against high pop ep and farm them until they left.

Now people sit in keeps emoting or complain about EP zerging when they zerg just as hard as EP does, if not harder, and pretend they're better than they actually are.

Meanwhile on EP side there's constant fights not just with DC but AD, and the participation of players who sat through that monstrous queue is far higher. When even DC's queue is over an hour long nowadays from that many players coming in, its crazy to still see glade packed with afkers until ep comes over to troll it that is. Wild really that DC has so many pvpers that don't actually pvp. Yet they're the most mouthy in dms and in zone chat.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

On the other hand... I am not minding the drastically reduced queue times after spending 1-hour+ stuck in them every night over the last two campaigns.

On the actual topic, though, I find it completely wild that a random zone troll would have that effect. Seems more like a reason for people who already wanted to bandwagon to the easier factions to do what they already wanted to do.

Your guild leader who I won't name here was one of the people that caused a lot of chaos over said scrolls. Ballgroups have a bad habit of playing selfishly and having an elevated sense of importance. Instead of just running the scroll home, he dropped it and allowed the troll op is talking about to get the scroll despite being warned.

I know he doesn't care but you're more sensible, so if you are wondering why so many got tilted, you can start there, as this wasnt just a one night thing but multiple nights.

dragonlord500 wrote: »

I clearly think it should be added to the TOS that if players act unsporting in pvp then they should get banned.

You mean "Unsportsmanlike conduct" like ganking Player in a enemy Town when the hand in their Quest?

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

xylena wrote: »

Theignson wrote: »

I wondered what happened to DC, they are 1 bar at 10:30 pm

Probably in one of the Vengeance threads trying to convince us that Gray Host isn't dead.

Too bad ZOS dropped the ball with Vengeance. Another "test" soon that nobody will care about.

lol you should log in and see for yourself Xylena, greyhost is very very active right now, 5 pm on the weekend it was already locked out with over 50 queues, and by primetime you were waiting hours.

Yesterday on a monday night was also crazy populated. Greyhost is more active than its been in years at the moment and I imagine that won't change since the warden refresh is coming up as well.

That is part of the issue, the population cap is too low. A faction locked campaign with Vengeance population caps would be perfect.

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

Elric_665 wrote: »

dragonlord500 wrote: »

I clearly think it should be added to the TOS that if players act unsporting in pvp then they should get banned.

You mean "Unsportsmanlike conduct" like ganking Player in a enemy Town when the hand in their Quest?

No, its a pvp zone. You step into cyrodiil you should expect pvp.

I know.

You play a MMO, so you should expect Trolls and Idiots.

dragonlord500 wrote: »

I clearly think it should be added to the TOS that if players act unsporting in pvp then they should get banned.

Who'd be left?

Hi OP,

In the past I've posted about similar behaviors to great length, and every concern was basically ignored. This is why I left AD/EP for similar reasons. For you guys who did go EP, you need to be careful because there's a Guild on there who runs frequently, their Guild leader considers himself a King, well they are hostile to others joining 'their' faction. Same as AD has been in the past with their wolf guild. So don't get started with AD/EP, start accomplishing things and expect any kindness or friendship in return. Don't be surprised if you're asked to leave because they don't care. AD gets offended really easily, so no jokes while on your AD toons. I have zero reason to help or care anything about anyone in Cyrodiil anymore.

And so, it's for this reason, as well as reasons OP stated that I have moved on from Cyrodiil. I hang out in IC chillin and killin all day and all night. It's just... it's great. In fact, it's interesting meeting some of those more 'wrathful' folks from Cyrodiil in there. They certainly aren't laughing anymore, and I feel alot better about things now. Sometimes people get what they deserve. Sad to see what happened to DC though. Was a good run for a long while wasn't it? Most of the best people in Cyrodiil were either on DC or perhaps EP. It's funny how much damage one person can do and how no one can stop it.

Just doesn't seem right to ruin what was once a great faction full of strong, talented players. If only others had posted about the dangers of allowing ball groups, guilds and solo emps to have too much power. If only someone had said something.

Banning someone over playing the game is silly, all they had to do was not protect the scroll carrier and let them die so they could pick it up. But there were players that refused to do that.

I say that if that's how the faction is, they should embrace that and when they lose players because of stuff like that, it simply is what it is.

Getting Zos involved for game reasons is very unnecessary when the solution is in your own hands. This is why I say its not just the one player, its a faction problem DC pcna has and they themselves should be the change they wanna see, or simply deal with people stepping away.

Goregram1 wrote: »

how about not monetizing this behavior an lifting the alliance lock so people can leave because if u say anything in chat you might get banned. all the other hosts are dead on pc anyways. everything is pve except for gray host.

No, people can simply play in blackreach if they want that. Greyhost is as populated as it is because of the faction lock, you sign up for this dynamic.