New tome PREMIUM Monster Slayer personality don't use character own greatsword. WHY?

Scaletho · 12:08AM

This personality is behind pay wall "Premium". It uses a greatsword on the shoulder ALL THE TIME. If someone (for some reason) decide to use the personality with a NON-GREATSWORD character it's ok the effect use a "fake" one unsheathed from nowhere.

But if we use this personality on an already "greatsword-owner" character, why the effect don't use the weapon already in place?

Is it too much difficult to create the effect? It demands to much devs work? Lack if dev capacity to make such specific visual work?

To see our character using TWO greatswords awkwardly at same time is heck WEIRD. And lame. Considering that this personality if behind a "pay money" wall, which supposedly should indicate best quality and special reward I really wish to know WHY it is so poorly made.

TheGamerSeal · 12:39AM

I agree with this stance.

I would LOVE to see a group of personalities dedicated to brandishing a certain weapon - the staff "personality" has been around since the base game, for example, as seen with the Prophet, or in Orsinium with Kurog's mom, and all the way into Galen where the thicc-spriggans walk around with them. Plenty of animations have been assigned to these characters to make a massively comprehensive personality that I think every staff-wielder in the game would love.

Marto · 12:49AM

The developers have yet to develop the code and systems required for personalities to use your equipped weapon.

I think they should really consider it. And also add it to personalities like Assassin (with daggers) and Maniacal Jester (also 2h)

It might not be reasonable to expect personalities to be customizable. That sounds like it could be complicated to implement.

What about every existing and future owner of those personalities being given a duplicate called "Monster Slayer (Custom)", "Assassin (Custom)", and "Maniacal Jester (Custom)"? And it functions the same, except the weapon used for the idles and emotes is the one equipped in your current gear or outfit.

The only downside I can see with this approach is that it might clutter the personalities menu. But it's not like that many personalities include a weapon.

Arunei · 1:09AM

If they can't program Personalities to at least use a generic weapon that matches whatever type you have equipped (a generic sword if you have a Sword, generic dagger for Daggers, etc), then they really should stop making Personalities tied to weapons. Nothing about 'monster hunter' strikes me as a person that only uses a 2H weapon that they also edgily carry on their shoulder at all times.

tomofhyrule · 1:15AM

They did respond to this on PTS that it was not possible when we brought the issue then.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

[*] Monster Hunter Personality [Feedback]: We have seen your feedback related to the Monster Hunter Personality that is being offered as a reward in the PTS Tamriel Tome, and the desire to have it use your character’s equipped weapon. While we agree that would be great with this Personality and others, it is unfortunately not within scope for us at this time.

Having said that, I absolutely think this is something they should look into, particularly for the Monster Slayer where the prop is permanent and not only used in emotes.

Fortunately, the emote props (even with Monster Slayer) can still be replaced with the old hide-helm-tap-block trick.

The issue with Monster Slayer though is that you can’t replace the idle.

(Also what happened to the Monster Slayer unique sneak animation we had on PTS?)

Palumtra · 1:31AM

I mean after the Assassin personality this is hardly surprising.

randconfig · 9:30AM

I wish all personalities with props would work that way, so like Assassin personality daggers could also just use the model of dagger you have equipped.

I still like the new personality though... But it could be so much more with that small change.

agelonestar · 10:25AM

If they can't use your equipped weapon, or even your equipped weapon type, perhaps they could hide your one weapon until you enter combat / draw your weapon?

The personality is such a good one, but it looks daft with a staff equipped - makes it unusable. If they just hid my staff while the personality was active, and brought it back when I went into combat, that would solve the issue.

Militan1404 · 1:07PM

Marto wrote: »

The developers have yet to develop the code and systems required for personalities to use your equipped weapon.

I think they should really consider it. And also add it to personalities like Assassin (with daggers) and Maniacal Jester (also 2h)

It might not be reasonable to expect personalities to be customizable. That sounds like it could be complicated to implement.

What about every existing and future owner of those personalities being given a duplicate called "Monster Slayer (Custom)", "Assassin (Custom)", and "Maniacal Jester (Custom)"? And it functions the same, except the weapon used for the idles and emotes is the one equipped in your current gear or outfit.

The only downside I can see with this approach is that it might clutter the personalities menu. But it's not like that many personalities include a weapon.

That should not be to hard to do, even if not the same we all ready has a skill that change after with mount you use(trample). Lets not pretend we dont know the real reasson, the sword style from the personality you need premium to get and if players wants a full match they have to pay more.

PDarkBHood · 2:45PM

My guess would be they would have to adjust the animation after every weapon out there to make sure the alignments are perfect, hence not feasible to use your own weapon.

Malyore · 2:59PM

PDarkBHood wrote: »

My guess would be they would have to adjust the animation after every weapon out there to make sure the alignments are perfect, hence not feasible to use your own weapon.

They can't just set some sort of anchor point at the player hand and let the rest of any other weapon model be aligned/overlayed on an unrendered mesa sword?
I don't know anything about the spaghetti engine, but I imagine it shouldn't be as difficult as they claim. There are other examples of noncombat animations that use our weapon. Heck, sometimes even animations that don't have weapons will sometimes bug out and include them, with them being anchored at the hand still...
Even if it's only limited to other greatswords and not even include battleaxes or staves and such, I think they definitely had the ability to do better.