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What if we could freely Class change to any Class we have Mastered?
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Gunthar✭✭✭Yes, this would be a good mechanic!I would agree that we should be able to change classes, especially after the class rework is completed.
I play a sorceress currently, but most of the time, I just use the offensive arcanist tree on her because the offensive abilities of the sorcerer trees are so weak.Edited by Gunthar on March 22, 2026 5:30PM3 -
BXR_Lonestar✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, it’s more fun to play with new characters!Then everyone would be a warden in PVP to abuse Charm, and in PVE, everyone except support would be an arcanist beamer...0 -
Maitsukas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, it’s more fun to play with new characters!And have little to no build variety at all?PC-EU @maitsukas
Posting the Infinite Archive and Imperial City Weekly Vendor updates.
Also trying out new Main Quests, Companions, ToT decks, Events and Styles on PTS.1 -
Bo0137✭✭✭✭✭Yes, this would be a good mechanic!At this point there’s no reason to not allow that. I for one would love to try something else, since I only play with one characterAdvocating for crown crates to return to the store of adult Brazilians.
I am an adult, I want to spend the money I earn on crown crates.
ZOS can comply with Brazil's legislation and still sell crown crates to adults.3 -
Erickson9610✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, this would be a good mechanic!BXR_Lonestar wrote: »Then everyone would be a warden in PVP to abuse Charm, and in PVE, everyone except support would be an arcanist beamer...And have little to no build variety at all?
A Class Change Token wouldn't cause there to be a lack of build variety. It's pretty much just the same as having multiple characters already ready to go and swapping between them.
We don't see people using Race Change Tokens to optimize their builds between runs, so we shouldn't expect people to constantly use Class Change Tokens that way, either. People will make separate characters for each concrete setup, so they don't need to keep spending Crowns — this Class Change Token is really only there for those of us who regret our initial choice of Class, especially because of how much has and is currently changing about them.PC/NA — Lone Werewolf
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Please give us Werewolf Skill Styles (for customizing our fur color), Grimoires/Scribing skills (to fill in the holes in our builds), and Companions (to transform with).5 -
Bguk✭✭✭Yes, this would be a good mechanic!Erickson9610 wrote: »BXR_Lonestar wrote: »Then everyone would be a warden in PVP to abuse Charm, and in PVE, everyone except support would be an arcanist beamer...And have little to no build variety at all?
A Class Change Token wouldn't cause there to be a lack of build variety. It's pretty much just the same as having multiple characters already ready to go and swapping between them.
We don't see people using Race Change Tokens to optimize their builds between runs, so we shouldn't expect people to constantly use Class Change Tokens that way, either. People will make separate characters for each concrete setup, so they don't need to keep spending Crowns — this Class Change Token is really only there for those of us who regret our initial choice of Class, especially because of how much has and is currently changing about them.
Great explanation. This would not hurt anyone as players will still play what they want. There are those who will always chase the newest/strongest class. That should not prevent others from changing their class. Also, more choice is better, no?2 -
BXR_Lonestar✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, it’s more fun to play with new characters!Erickson9610 wrote: »BXR_Lonestar wrote: »Then everyone would be a warden in PVP to abuse Charm, and in PVE, everyone except support would be an arcanist beamer...And have little to no build variety at all?
A Class Change Token wouldn't cause there to be a lack of build variety. It's pretty much just the same as having multiple characters already ready to go and swapping between them.
We don't see people using Race Change Tokens to optimize their builds between runs, so we shouldn't expect people to constantly use Class Change Tokens that way, either. People will make separate characters for each concrete setup, so they don't need to keep spending Crowns — this Class Change Token is really only there for those of us who regret our initial choice of Class, especially because of how much has and is currently changing about them.
If it was a class change token that you have to pay for, that is one thing, but I was under the impression that the OP wanted to be able to change builds willy nilly free of cost and without consequence similar to how we are able to swap in class skill lines without any consideration of cost. The cost of a class change token would be a limiting factor which I think would make this more doable. However, without that cost, being able to swap between classes without consequence would just exacerbate the issues we have now.0 -
No, it’s more fun to play with new characters!No. It will get abused. Or even worse exploited. Certain classes should not be insanely ahead of others and now its doubly bad because Subclassing has added the problem of this happening to skill lines as well. Once all the refreshes are done and the biggest offenders like Herald of the Tome and Assassination are broken up, some of this may go away. I don't believe they can blance the Subclassing mess, but here is to hoping.
People must not be severely penalized by what class or race their characters are. It detracts from the game. If you like High Elves AND Nightblades, you shouldn't suffer or be made to be forced into something you dont want to play. Telling someone they have to be a Necro Argonian when they dont like Necro or Argonian is not only gatekeeping, it's flat out exclusion for people who care about their characters.0 -
Bguk✭✭✭Yes, this would be a good mechanic!CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »No. It will get abused. Or even worse exploited. Certain classes should not be insanely ahead of others and now its doubly bad because Subclassing has added the problem of this happening to skill lines as well. Once all the refreshes are done and the biggest offenders like Herald of the Tome and Assassination are broken up, some of this may go away. I don't believe they can blance the Subclassing mess, but here is to hoping.
People must not be severely penalized by what class or race their characters are. It detracts from the game. If you like High Elves AND Nightblades, you shouldn't suffer or be made to be forced into something you dont want to play. Telling someone they have to be a Necro Argonian when they dont like Necro or Argonian is not only gatekeeping, it's flat out exclusion for people who care about their characters.
If you're with people who are telling you how to play, you're with the wrong people. I hate this sentiment when people throw around the gatekeeping word when it involves others "forcing" people into playing a certain way. It's a victim mentality. You're the only one gatekeeping yourself by not searching for those who care to play the game similar to how you like to play the game. Everyone can play the game how they like, whether people have requirements or not. Be your own solution as others will not be the solution for you.2 -
No, it’s more fun to play with new characters!CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »No. It will get abused. Or even worse exploited. Certain classes should not be insanely ahead of others and now its doubly bad because Subclassing has added the problem of this happening to skill lines as well. Once all the refreshes are done and the biggest offenders like Herald of the Tome and Assassination are broken up, some of this may go away. I don't believe they can blance the Subclassing mess, but here is to hoping.
People must not be severely penalized by what class or race their characters are. It detracts from the game. If you like High Elves AND Nightblades, you shouldn't suffer or be made to be forced into something you dont want to play. Telling someone they have to be a Necro Argonian when they dont like Necro or Argonian is not only gatekeeping, it's flat out exclusion for people who care about their characters.
If you're with people who are telling you how to play, you're with the wrong people. I hate this sentiment when people throw around the gatekeeping word when it involves others "forcing" people into playing a certain way. It's a victim mentality. You're the only one gatekeeping yourself by not searching for those who care to play the game similar to how you like to play the game. Everyone can play the game how they like, whether people have requirements or not. Be your own solution as others will not be the solution for you.
Just the opposite. I have never played with people like that. Ive left other guilds who became gatekeepers. Or even thought about it. I unfriend people who engage in this kind of behavior. It ruins the game. It ruins other people's Eso experience. Our guilds don't do that and we clear the same content. I have and will always be on the right side of history regarding this.0 -
BretonMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, this would be a good mechanic!CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »No. It will get abused. Or even worse exploited. Certain classes should not be insanely ahead of others and now its doubly bad because Subclassing has added the problem of this happening to skill lines as well. Once all the refreshes are done and the biggest offenders like Herald of the Tome and Assassination are broken up, some of this may go away. I don't believe they can blance the Subclassing mess, but here is to hoping.
People must not be severely penalized by what class or race their characters are. It detracts from the game. If you like High Elves AND Nightblades, you shouldn't suffer or be made to be forced into something you dont want to play. Telling someone they have to be a Necro Argonian when they dont like Necro or Argonian is not only gatekeeping, it's flat out exclusion for people who care about their characters.
Right, forcing people to remain in underperforming classes isn't fair. And therefore classes should be well-balanced. The class change token isn't about that though, it's about letting people play the way they want. Classes are being overhauled right now, who's to say you will still enjoy playing the class you chose 10 years ago?
Besides, as others have mentioned, it won't be abused if you have to pay for the token. And I think it's fair to expect players to pay for a class change token.1 -
BXR_Lonestar✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, it’s more fun to play with new characters!BretonMage wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »No. It will get abused. Or even worse exploited. Certain classes should not be insanely ahead of others and now its doubly bad because Subclassing has added the problem of this happening to skill lines as well. Once all the refreshes are done and the biggest offenders like Herald of the Tome and Assassination are broken up, some of this may go away. I don't believe they can blance the Subclassing mess, but here is to hoping.
People must not be severely penalized by what class or race their characters are. It detracts from the game. If you like High Elves AND Nightblades, you shouldn't suffer or be made to be forced into something you dont want to play. Telling someone they have to be a Necro Argonian when they dont like Necro or Argonian is not only gatekeeping, it's flat out exclusion for people who care about their characters.
Right, forcing people to remain in underperforming classes isn't fair. And therefore classes should be well-balanced. The class change token isn't about that though, it's about letting people play the way they want. Classes are being overhauled right now, who's to say you will still enjoy playing the class you chose 10 years ago?
Besides, as others have mentioned, it won't be abused if you have to pay for the token. And I think it's fair to expect players to pay for a class change token.
This is the reason why they give us so many character slots to begin with (8 in total) and why they have made it so easy to powerlevel alt characters by giving you access to your existing champion points and piling on XP scrolls on you. Seriously, what else do you want? Do you ONLY want to play one character?0 -
BretonMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, this would be a good mechanic!BXR_Lonestar wrote: »BretonMage wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »No. It will get abused. Or even worse exploited. Certain classes should not be insanely ahead of others and now its doubly bad because Subclassing has added the problem of this happening to skill lines as well. Once all the refreshes are done and the biggest offenders like Herald of the Tome and Assassination are broken up, some of this may go away. I don't believe they can blance the Subclassing mess, but here is to hoping.
People must not be severely penalized by what class or race their characters are. It detracts from the game. If you like High Elves AND Nightblades, you shouldn't suffer or be made to be forced into something you dont want to play. Telling someone they have to be a Necro Argonian when they dont like Necro or Argonian is not only gatekeeping, it's flat out exclusion for people who care about their characters.
Right, forcing people to remain in underperforming classes isn't fair. And therefore classes should be well-balanced. The class change token isn't about that though, it's about letting people play the way they want. Classes are being overhauled right now, who's to say you will still enjoy playing the class you chose 10 years ago?
Besides, as others have mentioned, it won't be abused if you have to pay for the token. And I think it's fair to expect players to pay for a class change token.
This is the reason why they give us so many character slots to begin with (8 in total) and why they have made it so easy to powerlevel alt characters by giving you access to your existing champion points and piling on XP scrolls on you. Seriously, what else do you want? Do you ONLY want to play one character?
Well, yes, I'm quite attached to my one character.
Surely there are others who might want to change the class of a particular character for whom the revamped class no longer fits. Options are always good, and if it's priced in a way to discourage abuse, I don't see any drawbacks.2 -
AScarlato✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, this would be a good mechanic!BXR_Lonestar wrote: »BretonMage wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »No. It will get abused. Or even worse exploited. Certain classes should not be insanely ahead of others and now its doubly bad because Subclassing has added the problem of this happening to skill lines as well. Once all the refreshes are done and the biggest offenders like Herald of the Tome and Assassination are broken up, some of this may go away. I don't believe they can blance the Subclassing mess, but here is to hoping.
People must not be severely penalized by what class or race their characters are. It detracts from the game. If you like High Elves AND Nightblades, you shouldn't suffer or be made to be forced into something you dont want to play. Telling someone they have to be a Necro Argonian when they dont like Necro or Argonian is not only gatekeeping, it's flat out exclusion for people who care about their characters.
Right, forcing people to remain in underperforming classes isn't fair. And therefore classes should be well-balanced. The class change token isn't about that though, it's about letting people play the way they want. Classes are being overhauled right now, who's to say you will still enjoy playing the class you chose 10 years ago?
Besides, as others have mentioned, it won't be abused if you have to pay for the token. And I think it's fair to expect players to pay for a class change token.
This is the reason why they give us so many character slots to begin with (8 in total) and why they have made it so easy to powerlevel alt characters by giving you access to your existing champion points and piling on XP scrolls on you. Seriously, what else do you want? Do you ONLY want to play one character?
I also want to mostly play just a few characters.
But mostly my main, who sadly is a Necro and I have disliked paying him since they removed Magika Blastbones. I don't like disease/poison aesthetics, so for me that skill is just GONE and replaced by a more annoying skill. At this point I have subclassed and don't use any Necro skill lines at all.
It would be nice to just swap classes entirely if the balance team makes decisions that make huge changes to classes, like they will for every class in the next two years.
I don't want to make an alt because I like having all the quests done on my main, and not spread out over random alts.1