MoonPile wrote: »

Maitsukas wrote: »

"PREMIUM" should be moved to the top of the box in the reward pages, it took me a whole week to realize that the free rewards are on the bottom.

You're right about moving it but... Wait... there's a difference? Genuine question, since the bottom rewards also cost points:

For PTS we are given access to everything, on live, premium is only accessible if you pay. So people who don't pay will only have access to the non premium rewards.

Needing to kill specific World or Delve bosses always leads to standing around waiting for boss kills. It's excruciating, but there's no other way to complete it. I would be marginally better if it were "Defeat World or Delve Bosses in [Zone]".

The Challenges to defeat specific dungeon and trial boss encounters competes with Pledges and Weekly Trials, partly because of the grouping needed. It would be nice if players were encouraged to Complete the Weekly Trial or Complete A Pledge instead, driving players to shared goals and encouraging group content.

Overall, the simplification of daily/weekly Endeavors and Golden Pursuits into one central Tamriel Tome is great. But that all depends on the specific tasks and the social dynamics around them.

twisttop138 wrote: »

Do we know what is actually in the tome though? Beyond the personality?

They put out an article early last month about the new Tome system. It mentions some of what's going to be included. https://elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/69141

(For real-life reasons I was not able to post my findings before; as the draft was mostly complete I'll post them anyway on the off-chance someone still reads them.)

• Were you able to find the Tamriel Tome within the game's UI?
  Yes.
• Did you find the information in the Page 0 overview helpful?
  Not especially.
  I found it confusing that this is labelled as page "0" on the later pages. It really feels like a distinct thing.
• How did you feel about the various Challenges on offer? This includes both Weekly and Seasonal Challenges.
  Seem broadly reasonable.
• Were you able to use the Re-Roll currency?
  (Original comment) This functionality either did not work or the method of using it was not obvious to me. The 'challenge re-rolls' icon does not highlight on mouseover, and does not open its tab (it just stays on the weekly or seasonal tab you were on).
  (Later comment) Much later I noticed by chance that a small grey message pops up outside the Challenge panel itself, at the other end of the screen, informing of a key to press to access re-rolls. Not very discoverable at all.
  Observation: Re-rolls are to my mind much too easy to trigger unintentionally. There should be a confirmation dialogue. I just know already that I'm going to fat-finger the re-roll key on some time-consuming Challenge at 99% completion.
• Was the experience of earning, claiming, and spending Tome Points clear?
  Not really.
• Did anything not function during your testing?
  The mysterious tick boxes above some progress bars in the Challenge panel that seem to not respond to any interaction.
• Do you have any other general feedback?

Overall impression: Both major styles and minor details seem inconsistent with and often gratingly clashing with the design language of the rest of the game.
Aesthetic impression: Lack of polish. Feels like a proof of concept functionality test with a messy mix of generic interface elements and a visual ideas still in development. (Which hopefully is precisely what we're looking at.)
Functional impression: Unintuitive, low discoverability, inconsistent communication to user; inconvenient flow.

Challenge panel elements: Communication of status, availability of actions:
Elsewhere in the game's UI a solitary filled blue progress bar indicates that whatever it counts is complete and there is no further action for the player to take. Any rewards have already been delivered. Whenever the player does need to take further action in response to a filled blue progress bar, there is an explicit additional indicator, often glowing, in direct proximity to the progress bar. This UI holds for current Endeavours, Golden Pursuits, skill training, Companion experience levels, and probably many more that do not immediately come to mind.
This Tome Challenge UI design is contrary to that principle. When a Challenge progress bar is filled, the player does need to take action to claim the reward, but there is no accompanying indication of this action being available in the frame for that Challenge. Perhaps this could be a glowing symbol to click, or simply a glowing frame to indicate "You need to do something!"

Challenge panel access:
As far as I can tell the only way to reach the Challenge overview panel is via the Tome, despite players presumably wanting to interact more often with the Challenge panel than the Tome. There should be a more direct way to reach the Challenge panel, e.g. from where the current Endeavours panel is.

1) Awful UI of Activities Screen.

• Background textures of TT's (Tamriel Tome) Pages are looking good on my 1920x1080 PC screen.
• Buttons on the top of screen look out of place. Please hire designer.
• Activities Screen doesn't have design at all. Some user addons look much much better. There's too much space wasted for such scant information. There are no buttons at all, although a small button for re-rolling and a larger one for claiming rewards could have been added.
• No notifications about activity completion, even on TT Pages Screen or Main Menu. You must check this shiity screen every time you do something to find out you can claim reward. But you can't even open it fast: firstly you open TT Pages and then click on small button in header to open Activities. How it posible to have such poor UI design?
• Try to open it on the mount with Alt button and you will be unmounted but screen doesn't open (or closes immediately).
• I'm not big fan of "light" preview. It may be useful but doesn't correspond to other UI.

2) There is a huge difference between the different activity rewards:

• 600 (200 * 3) for Group Dungeons (x1)
• 525 (175 * 3) for Group Event in Public Dungeons (x1)
• 525 (525 * 1) for Trial (x1)
• 450 (90 * 5) for Delves Bosses (x1) OR World Bosses (x1)
• 420 (70 * 6) for Kill certain mobs (x25)
• 400 (80 * 5) for Use Blade of Woe (x5)
• 400 (200 * 2) for PVE Arena (x1)
• 375 (75 * 5) for Treasure Chests (x1)
• 360 (60 * 6) for Gather Nodes (x15) OR Invasions (x1)
• 350 (70 * 5) for Dangerous Enemies (x8)

I assume we must reroll for Group Dungeons too maximize our income to open TTs last page and find out all possible rewards and try to get some of them. But rerolls are very limited. The fairness of Endeavors is gone.

3) Some Activities doesn't work (no progression) for me at all such:

• Read Lore Books in world.
• Open Chest from Treasure Map.